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NASA to Announce 'Significant Findings' of Water on Mars Tuesday!
Space DOT com ^ | 3-1-04 | Robert Roy Britt Senior Science Writer

Posted on 03/01/2004 2:08:45 PM PST by vannrox

NASA to Announce 'Significant Findings' of Water on Mars Tuesday

By Robert Roy Britt
Senior Science Writer

posted: 03:30 pm ET
01 March 2004


NASA will hold a press conference Tuesday to announce "significant findings" about water on Mars based on evidence from its Opportunity Mars rover.

"It's going to be the most significant science results that we've had from the rovers, and it's bearing on their primary mission," NASA spokesperson Don Savage told SPACE.com. That mission is to find signs of water that might support life.

Will the announcement change how we think about Mars?

"Anything of a significant nature has that possibility," Savage said. "Sure."

If there is liquid water presently at the surface of Mars, as several lines of rover evidence have hinted, then most scientists agree there is the possibility that life could exist. Water does not mean life, but it is the key ingredient that makes life possible.

Few scientists doubt that Mars was once warmer and wet. And tremendous amounts of water are locked up as ice in the polar regions. The main question is whether any of that water remains at the surface in liquid form.

Opportunity and its twin, Spirit, are exploring opposite sides of the planet near the equator.

A SPACE.com story Sunday revealed a "palpable buzz" among rover scientists at the Jet Propulsion Laboratory (JPL) in Pasadena, from where the rover mission is run. Sources indicated that a coherent picture of the geology of the rover landing sites was emerging.

Speculation that the announcement might involve any discussion of biology has not been confirmed.

Until now, all rover science news has been revealed at press conferences held in Pasadena. A routine had been established and the next press conference was slated for later this week. Sources indicated a major press conference might come next week. But NASA rushed to set up Tuesday's press conference at NASA Headquarters in Washington, DC.

"We didn't want to sit on this information for a long time," Savage said, adding that the scientists felt they "had gotten the information they needed."

The panel assembled for the press conference includes top brass and a cast of important science characters.

Speakers will include Ed Weiler, Associate Administrator for NASA's Office of Space Science, Jim Garvin, Lead Scientist for Mars and the Moon, Cornell University's Steve Squyres, the Mars Exploration Rover (MER) Principal Investigator, and MIT geologist John Grotzinger, among others.

The press conference will take place at 2 p.m. ET and will be carried live on NASA television.

Opportunity has been investigating the soil and a rock outcropping in a shallow depression at its Meridiani Planum landing site, which may once have been the site of a giant lake or ocean. The rocks are layered and may have formed as sediments settled in the bottom of an ancient lake or ocean, or as part of a river bed, but that is only one hypothesis.

Both Opportunity and Spirit have found sticky, clumping soil that scientists already said could contain water. Only small amounts of water, perhaps sucked from the atmosphere, would be needed to mix with salt in the soil and create a brine, which could exist in liquid form even in the frigid environment of Mars.

Opportunity also appears to sit amid a field of hematite, a mineral that typically -- but not always -- forms in the presence of water. The rover has also found countless BB-sized beads. The spherical objects might have formed in a water environment, the scientists have said before, but there could also be other explanations, including volcanism and meteor impacts.

The rovers have sent back a mountain of other data on rocks and soil that, as of late last week, had not been fully analyzed or in some cases had not yet been released.

The rovers landed in January and are schedule to explore Mars for at least three months. They could last into summer, however. The mission price tag is $820 million.


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To: Socks C.
Ahhhh OK. Now it's official.
81 posted on 03/01/2004 8:28:52 PM PST by amom
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To: Socks C.
LOL...Ok....it's you!

Now for the real poop....
Did you off Buddy?

82 posted on 03/01/2004 8:30:12 PM PST by eddie willers
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To: eddie willers
Did you off Buddy?

Not reaLLy.



1)      I thought th dumb sonofabitch wood look bouth ways
        before chasing after th ball.

2)      I honestly didn't see Slick comin round th bend.

3)      I thought Slick would hit th brakes.

2)      No loss, really . . . cats rul;e!!

83 posted on 03/01/2004 8:38:43 PM PST by Socks C. (still under the bed @ White House dot com #1gato)
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To: Socks C.
LOLOL! Thanks for the ping!
84 posted on 03/01/2004 8:59:20 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: Doc On The Bay
Can someone translate that into a form that doesn't make my eyes hurt?
85 posted on 03/01/2004 9:11:04 PM PST by Don Joe (We've traded the Rule of Law for the Law of Rule.)
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To: vannrox
There were vast oceans on Mars. The full story will not be known for decades.

That is my intuition, not my reason.

86 posted on 03/01/2004 9:23:01 PM PST by Reactionary
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To: Socks C.; Phil V.
He put up a good fight, buT they gOt 'em . . .

Ummm...Phil didn't perhaps get caught with a hand lens and rock hammer, did he? He ran off with them a coupla days ago along with some of my canvas specimen bags. Kept babbling on about his "mission". Didn't have the heart to stop him.

87 posted on 03/01/2004 11:51:16 PM PST by Aracelis
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To: blam
The photo posted by Phil V. that started me thinking:

Looks very much like a terrestrial Archimedes bryozoa.

88 posted on 03/01/2004 11:58:58 PM PST by Aracelis
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To: Piltdown_Woman
Excuse me, but just for the record, this is the first image of the "critter" posted on FR.

:-)

89 posted on 03/02/2004 5:53:49 AM PST by FireTrack
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To: Piltdown_Woman
He put up a good fight, buT they gOt 'em . . .

HOW EMBARRASSING!
 

We shall speak no more of this, OK?

90 posted on 03/02/2004 6:12:21 AM PST by Phil V.
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To: Don Joe; vannrox; Phil V.; Piltdown_Woman; FireTrack; Monty22; wirestripper; Indie; Djarum; ...
Looks like they've updated the 'Significant Findings' article on http://www.space.com

Speculation that the announcement might involve any discussion of biology has not been confirmed.

However, there have been repeated observations at the Opportunity site that have puzzled the Mars rover scientists. Using the rover’s Microscopic Imager, the strange spherules, thread-like features and even a larger object detected in rock outcrop have sparked scientific discussion -- both inside and outside of the Mars rover team -- as to whether they are tied to biology.

Poker-faced scientists

Last week at the Jet Propulsion Laboratory (JPL) in Pasadena, California -- the control node and scientific nexus for both the Spirit and Opportunity rover work -- an air of excitement wafted through the facility.

Even from poker-faced scientists in-the-know about what "significant findings" are at the heart of tomorrow’s press briefing, mum was the word.

The teams of scientists that are engaged in rover operations are top-notch, said Ray Arvidson, Deputy Principal Investigator for the MER effort. "The best and brightest got here because they have been very careful about how they go about doing their science…and making sure they have data to bolster their arguments," he told SPACE.com .

Arvidson said that all sorts of arguments and hypotheses have been on the table, "from the ultra-conservative to ultra-liberal in terms of what’s been happening, particularly at the Opportunity site."

91 posted on 03/02/2004 6:20:18 AM PST by FireTrack
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To: FireTrack
Uh, oh...mea culpa.
92 posted on 03/02/2004 8:15:05 AM PST by Aracelis
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To: vannrox
Even if it doesn't support life or never did (wouldn't surprise me if it did support life at some point), it's even more important in regards to human (Americans) landing and living there.
93 posted on 03/02/2004 8:21:51 AM PST by af_vet_rr
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To: null and void
Well, at least you didn't sing Psycho Killer.
94 posted on 03/02/2004 8:22:44 AM PST by wattsmag2
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To: FireTrack; Don Joe; Phil V.
Arvidson said that all sorts of arguments and hypotheses have been on the table, "from the ultra-conservative to ultra-liberal in terms of what’s been happening, particularly at the Opportunity site."

Translation: They're fightin' like cats and dogs, reminiscent of the "discussions" surrounding the advent of the plate tectonics hypothesis back in the '60s. There's probably Big Macs and fries flying as we speak. ;^)

95 posted on 03/02/2004 8:23:28 AM PST by Aracelis
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To: vannrox
Interesting. A drop of water on Mars indicates life, yet a fetus in the womb does not.
96 posted on 03/02/2004 8:26:06 AM PST by YourAdHere (I'm single and I've got money)
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To: Piltdown_Woman
There's probably Big Macs and fries flying as we speak. ;^)

LOL, Only if you can get a Big Mac on "whole wheat". Most of these guys are from Cornell.

97 posted on 03/02/2004 8:43:19 AM PST by FireTrack
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To: Piltdown_Woman
Phil V. stereo and 3D images makes it all the more convincing!
98 posted on 03/02/2004 8:45:39 AM PST by FireTrack
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To: Piltdown_Woman
It has that certain vagueness or vague certainty of pictures of Nessie.
99 posted on 03/02/2004 10:07:28 AM PST by RightWhale (Theorems link concepts; proofs establish links)
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To: Piltdown_Woman
Picture on Mars:

Archimedes Bryozoa on Earth:

100 posted on 03/02/2004 10:22:51 AM PST by So Cal Rocket (If consistency is the hobgoblin of small minds, John F. Kerry’s mind must be freaking enormous)
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