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If We Bought Groceries The Way We Buy Education
WPTF Radio ^ | 02/28/04 | Jerry Agar

Posted on 02/28/2004 7:16:16 PM PST by Copernicus

If We Bought Groceries the Way We Buy Public Education

By: Jerry Agar

Public education is a monopoly controlled by the government. Whenever I point out that socialism doesn’t work, I am invariably told that I am wrong and that education is too important to be left to the private sector. Children have a right to education, and some children would not be educated without total government involvement.

Should we then decide that food is too important to be left to the private sector, in the belief that only the government can equitably distribute groceries? After all, if we don’t eat, we can’t learn.

What would it be like if we purchased food the same way we purchase education?

Grocery stores would be government owned and operated.

There would be a Department of Groceries with a highly paid Superintendent of Groceries, along with tenured positions such as Secretary of Celery, Deputy of Donuts and the Administrator of Arugula, all with fine offices and a staff (assistant Secretary of Celery.) Naturally, they would be housed in an expensive office building, full of people who never actually stock shelves, run the register, bag the food, unload trucks or retrieve the carts from the parking lot.

Every person would be assigned a grocery store. Despite public hearings, in the pretense of listening to the public, your grocery store would be assigned and you would NOT -–I repeat NOT – be allowed to shop in ANY other public food store regardless of its proximity to your home.

From time to time, due to population changes, each person would be reassigned to a different grocery store.

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KEYWORDS: bureaucracy; diversity; education; educrat; educrats; multiculturalism
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To: Copernicus
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41 posted on 02/28/2004 10:40:29 PM PST by LiteKeeper
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To: Marie
You are, by far, the classiest poster on FR. Most of us could learn a thing or two from you. Keep posting!

Thank for your kind compliment! It certainly brightened my morning! Perhaps I should forward it to the moderators who shut down my threads periodically!

We all learn from each other. I would like to learn more from the likes of Travis Mc Gee who has managed to write an entire book and has even sold a few!

Best regards,

42 posted on 02/29/2004 6:01:17 AM PST by Copernicus (A Constitutional Republic revolves around Sovereign Citizens, not citizens around government.)
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To: nopardons
If you think that things were better in rural America, you're wrong.In Canton, Mass., in 1870 ( and this is rural country, NOT a city! ) after reprimanding four boys, by keeping them after school ( yes, detention is that old!),when they were let out, they STONED THE TEACHER TO DEATH . These were whites, BTW.

Since you have, in this instance, made an allegation sufficiently detailed to be investigated, I took a few moments to use Google to search for details.

I fail to see how this incident bolsters your argument for Government Monopoly Schools.

As you can see from what would be the equivalent of the official inquest posted below, the teacher involved was chronically ill, the cause of her death was inconclusive, the PUBLIC school had a history of disorder familar to many modern parents, the newspapers posted accounts that were inflammatory and inaccurate, and the perpetrators were punished in a manner consistent with modern Liberal Jurisprudence.

Since, by your own admission, you attended a private school and have provided no substantial evidence to support a position to justify Government Monopoly Bureaucracies, I do not understand the source of your opposition to Mr. Agar's column.

Best regards,

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Etta Barstow Stoned By Students At The Sherman School

DISTRICT No. 5. Pleasant Street

Teacher, Mrs. EMMA F. GOULD. This school has been taught by one teacher during the year with the exception of about three weeks at the beginning of the fall term, when it was taken by Miss Etta K. Barstow, Who was, as the sequel proved, in ill health.

During her stay in the school the old fight of "which shall be master," was fought over again and though the teacher thought that she should eventually conquer, she without doubt, exerted herself too much, and the worry and want of success which is so trying to one ambitious of reputation or who has high aspirations for an orderly school, undoubtedly brought on a relapse of her disease, being primarily an affection of one of the lobes of the brain, from the effects of which she died.

This school has been for many years a hard school to govern, on the first day of the school year, the performance commenced with the overture of "shoo fly," followed by an encounter between two aspirants for pugilistic honors.

Mrs. Gould, finally brought order out of chaos, but not without a great deal of trouble from the parents, whose encouragement has done more to give the school a bad reputation than any other cause. Under Mrs. Gould the school has done very well, the order has been good, and the closing examination showed much improvement.

At the especial request of your Committee, and because many erroneous statements in regard to the death of Miss Barstow appeared in the newspapers, at the time of the occurrence, I hereby place before your honorable board a statement of the facts:--On the morning of Friday, Oct. 8th, when about to take the cars for Boston, I was informed that the boys in District No. 5, had killed their teacher.

I immediately visited the District in order to obtain such information as I could in regard to the affair, but found the inhabitants of this part of the town extremely reticent; acting however on such information as I was enabled to obtain, I caused the arrest of five boys, a part for disturbing the school and a part for assault on the teacher.

They were examined the same afternoon by Trial Justice Grover, and the testimony given by eye witnesses, was as follows. That on the morning of Wednesday the fifth inst, a part of the scholars refused to come into the school house when the bell rung, that they then began slamming the blinds and throwing stones into the entry, using profane and other improper language; that at noon, when Miss Barstow was leaving the school yard, stones were thrown at her, one of which struck her on the back of the head and one on the neck.

That she had hard work to reach her boarding place, and when there, fell exhausted into a chair, saying, "Those boys have thrown stones at me." Finding the case beyond his jurisdiction, the Trial Justice ordered the boys to be carried before Judge White, the probate Judge who has charge of juvenile offenders.

He sentenced three of the boys upon the charge of disturbing the school, to the State Reform School at Westboro', and remarked that he could do no more than that if they were tried upon the assault.

From this decision they appealed, and were tried before Judge Wilkinson, at the December term of the court, for the disturbance, merely.

All evidence in regard to the assault being so carefully barred out by the defendants, that jurors who tried the case and were familiar with the facts of the assault, did not recognize this as a part of the same affair. The jury however found them guilty, and the judge put them on probation.

The belief was so strong in many minds that Miss Barstow's death had been caused by the injuries she received at the hands of her pupils, that I was requested to sift the matter to the bottom.

At the request of prominent citizens, I called upon Dr. Chas. Buckingham, tire physician who had attended Miss Barstow during her final illness.

He informed me that he was unable to account for the cause of her death.

That in a practice of twenty-five years he had never seen a similar case; that she appeared to him like a person suffering under the effects of a narcotic poison.

If she had received a blow upon the head, it would account for the peculiarities attending her death, which he was unable to account for from the effects of her disease.

Deeming this information of importance, a telegram was sent which caused the interment of Miss Barstow to be suspended, and in company with Drs. Buckingham and Swan, and Mr. B. A. Samuels, I went to Hanover.

A coroner's jury was then unpanneled and a post mortem examination was made. But there was no mark or sign of a bruise on or about the body.

The verdict of the jury was as follows; "That Miss Etta K. Barstow, came to her death, primarily by diabetes, accelerated by the shock to her nervous system, occasioned by an attack made upon her by James Coffee and others, to the jury unknown."

http://www.canton.org/history/barstow2.htm

43 posted on 02/29/2004 6:51:05 AM PST by Copernicus (A Constitutional Republic revolves around Sovereign Citizens, not citizens around government.)
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To: Copernicus
... tenured positions such as Secretary of Celery, Deputy of Donuts and ...

ROTFL, Deputy of Donuts! Good article, thanks for sharing it. Oh, thanks for looking up and posting the material relating to the 1870 "teacher stoning."

44 posted on 02/29/2004 7:15:00 AM PST by Cboldt
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