[B4Ranch]

PING for discussion

[William McKinley]

The nation-state is obsolete, eh? Good to see the author has channelled Strobe Talbot.

[DoctorMichael]

Good article. I am fearful of this One-Worlder crap being shoved down the throat of an unsuspecting American public without any debate or assent (vote) of the American people whatsoever. If all the above is true, then there are some shadowy hands moving pieces around the board (and I usually don't go in for this tinfoil stuff).

[Biblebelter]

This is an outstanding article. Our nation is under attack. It is just not by Islamic terrorists. The dedicated purpose of these United States is in a single word independence. How can a nation be independent without its sovereignity? How can you even have a nation without clearly understood borders? The invasion of the illegals on one hand and the export of jobs on the other hand serve the same purpose of destroying the structure and foundation on which our nation exists.

My fondness for Mr. Bartley and his editorial page rest upon one issue and one issue only. They knew that there was a serial rapist in the White House and of all the so called media elite they alone attempted to bring the American people the facts surrounding the criminality that defined the Clintons.

[EGPWS]

"The European experience with integration has much to teach North American policymakers,"

What is learned however can be used for the betterment of our country in many different ways, more than just mimicking the European "experience".

[tacticalogic]

The New Deal writ large?

[MissAmericanPie]

"Get that? Mr. Bartley was bragging that he and the Journal — that supposed bastion of conservatism — were pushing for open borders 20 years ago! Not to put too fine a point on the matter, but that is another way of saying that Bartley and company were (are) pushing for the abolition of the United States of America. Which is to say — and there’s no way around it — that Bartley and his WSJ coterie were (and are) engaged in subversion and treason, no matter how respectable they may appear or how cleverly they couch their verbal assaults on nationhood."

Get that? People best start waking up to what both parties have become, and more than that, they best start making some noise if they want to keep their nation. Bush will have nothing to lose in his second term as he has strong armed his way to the Fast Track ability and has said he is determined to push the FTAA treaty through congress and the senate. Who is going to put the brakes on this during Bush's second term?

[Diddle E. Squat]

Hey, lookie there, you've got dictators Hugo Chavez, Fidel Castro, and Robert Mugabee on your side:

Amid protests, Venezuela's president warns Third World leaders against free market policies

EU hoping for developing world summit to agree on free trade talks - Castro and Mugabe take a pass

[Helms]

Internationalist alert, ping !

[Ohioan]

Thank you for posting this thought provoking essay. My only complaint is that the writer treats the proponents of this form of the compulsive pursuit of an undifferentiated humanity, as "intellectuals." They suffer from a slightly different form of tunnel vision than the compulsive egalitarians--these folk mostly motivated by a desire for Corporate opportunities and profit, rather than the fear and compulsion driven pursuit on the Left--but their analytic powers are almost as defective.

Anyone with a modicum of common sense, can quickly perceive all sorts of long term problems, that will inevitably arise, to turn this new pursuit of a tower of babel concept into another total disaster. What they have already damaged, and damaged terribly, is the sense of a generation to generation continuum in many human societies. They are so lost in the perceptions of immediate advantage, they totally ignore the necessity for community--I mean real communities of real people, not the abstractions involved in conceptutalizing a "community of nations," etc..

For an obvious example of what I mean, the antidote to class warfare, which has always been the goal of demagogues who see it as a path to power, has always been in a sense of community, of common heritage, etc.. The small town industrialist, might have had problems with his work force, but nothing like the problems that the absentee mine owner had in the Kentucky or West Virginia coal mines. But when the neat little model of the Globalist Conglomerates starts to come apart, the chaos will be unlike anything seen, not even after the November Revolution in Russia, in 1917.

To say these pathetic theorists have a tiger by the tail, is the understatment of human history.

This is indeed the life or death issue of our century. We can humor the politically correct crowd and pretend that every body is really the same; that it is prejudice to prefer our own peoples over others; that we need a new racial and ethnic sensitivity to prepare for a brighter future, etc., etc., ad nauseum. Or we can wake up.

The Left screaming "xenophobia," "racism," "bigotry," has conditioned many Americans to try to avoid this issue. It is that reluctance which these non-ideological representatives of managerial avarice, on a Leftward tangent, are exploiting to destroy our societies. We need to wake up! The intellectually blind, combined with the old enemies, combined with the stupid, resentful and neurotic in our midst are going to destroy the America we inherited, if we don't.

William Flax Return Of The Gods Web Site
The Resource Center For Those Who Intend To Fight Back!

[Jackie222]

Good article! So, who do we vote for in 04? T

[Travis McGee]

Got rope?

[FoxPro]

The nation state is currently being buried by the Internet.

[swampfox98]

I doubt this will be a very popular thread tonight.

[F16Fighter]

Back in 1994, Kemp and Bennett teamed up with the leftists of the radical Hispanic lobby to campaign against California’s Proposition 187, a responsible initiative to deny welfare benefits to illegal aliens. Kemp and Bennett characterized Proposition 187 backers as bigots, racists and xenophobes.

The arrogant, SOB Jack Kemp is the absolute WORST kind of RINO the GOP has ever produced. The man is anything BUT a U.S. patriot -- he's a traitor.

OTOH, Bill Bennett is just a mislead idealist with a slight gambling problem.

[Happy2BMe]

BUMPING FOR REFERENCE - God help this sick country!

[gatorbait]

Well, glad my stock is Alcoa and Reynolds has not been for naught.

[gatorbait]

New American? Is this not a John Birch Society publication?

[Cacique]

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[winker]

Amnesty by anyother name would sour in your stomach. The taste and flavor of these personalities would have you believe butter would not melt in their mouths, but we know better. Since we all know we are dealing with "Criminal Illegal Aliens"; we must call them what they really are TERRORISTS! They are attacking our American Values by destroying the support systems we all depend on. We are at WAR and make no doubt about it, we are on the defensive here at home. It is time to grow a backbone and refuse the socialization of America and declare "OPEN SEASON " on Criminal Undocumented Illegal Aliens!