Posted on 02/24/2004 10:40:36 AM PST by Cacique
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My God!
I can’t believe I’m hearing you right.
I agree with what you are saying, but see I’m a racist cause I’m a white American.
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This is a thread that deserves resurrection. Very timely!
Damm right
Bump cause it needs to be read.
Bumping it because it needs to be read and now more than ever.
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“The biggest problem I see is that we seem to have given up on the idea of assimilating newcomers. If this country becomes less white but retains American culture, I don’t see a problem. However, government programs and “multiculturalism” have de-emphasized assimilation.
In my cynical moments, I see this as a plot by rich transnationalists. “
No, its a plot by the Gramscian cultural marxists. This is their way to deconstruct our successful anglo-saxon-derived Judeo-Christian-based limited-govt free democratic republic.
To overthrow a culture, marginalize it within a wider multi-cultural context. Then let demographics do the rest.
“If this trend continues, the cultural division between Hispanics and Anglos could replace the racial division between blacks and whites as the most serious cleavage in U.S. society.”
Thanks for this excellent article.
The fact is that borders, language and culture matter, and that a demographic tidal can and will create cultural shifts. Would it be any different if the 20 million were Indian Sikhs, or Muslims from Egypt, or Chinese? The fact is, the ‘melting pot’ only works in a system of strong assimilation. That simply does not happen when you are continually bringing in millions of people from the same country.
It was the *low* immigration levels of 1920-1960s that ensured there would be a homogenizing effect of American culture. The only way to stop this effect wrt Mexican immigration would be to drastically lower immigration levels from Mexico (it would not be unreasonable to limit immigration from any one country to be 5% of total immigration).
to do otherwise is to invite the Reconquista on most border states.
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Yes I agree with you. The article is alarmist. The 2nd and 3rd generation Hispanics are much more likely to speak English and intermarriage. I believe by 2050, half of the Hispanics today will be married into black and white families.
This is absolutely one of the most disgusting and disturbing articles I’ve ever read. And the fact that, allegedly, a Latino would not find anything bothering about the clearly bigoted nature of the article is even worse. Most shockingly, tragedy is not a strong enough word to quantify the sheer ignorance of a Latino who would judge the culture of his people and other non-Americans as “failed”. I am a proud Haitian born and raised in NYC. Haiti is my country and there isn’t a damn thing inferior about our culture. No culture is inherently inferior or “failed”.
This article is nothing but White nationalist propoganda revamped for the 21st century. Minorities and liberal White people need to realize that undocumented immigrants are nothing more than the latest scapegoat being used by elected officials to hide the real reasons for the ills that plague socieites. All my people of color need to rise up and realize that in the eyes of the conservative White elite, we are all niggers, Blacks, Latinos, Asians, Gays, Amerindians, Arabs and all other oppressed minorities. By keeping one group of color down, they succeed in holding us all in the same inferior position.
Though I have to admit that the genius of neo-White nationalist thought is that now national origin and immigration status are being used to support inherently discriminatory ideologies. To outright say that it is because of the race of the newcomers that they garner so much animosity would be too easy, now they seek to divide people of color by saying that we’re all Americans (except the undocumented) and we’re all fighting for the good of the American people. My question is, since when have immigrants (documented or otherwise) in a concrete way ever caused the deterioration of the American people? They didn’t start unemployment, or the health care crisis, they didn’t take away school funding. So why do so many people seem to blame them? Think about it.
Thanks for keeping the old thread alive.
Thanks for the bump, I would reply to #196, but it seems that she has already made up her mind. By her join date it appears she joined just to write that drivel. This old thread deserves to be re-read every now and then.
Seems like you’d be talking to deaf ears.
The original comments were well worth the read, but it’s a shame we don’t have more of this kind of rational and meaningful debate outside the confines of FR.
Anyways,
Merry Xmas to you and yours
The first waves of Cubans were white Europeans. Ditto the first wave of Colombians. In many cases English wasn't an unknown quantity to these pioneers, even if they couldn't handle it all that well. Naturally they now speak English and so do the kids. Perhaps they even speak it at home, just like the Germans, Jews, and Italians, whose now feeble looking immigration numbers did before them.
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