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Jane and Me (Kerry and Fraud)
The Tribune Review ^ | 2/23/04 | Ralph Reiland

Posted on 02/23/2004 11:47:10 AM PST by thesummerwind

Edited on 04/13/2004 2:03:21 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

Like John Kerry, there's a photo of me somewhere out there with Jane Fonda. Also in the photo would be my wife and Tom Hayden, co-founder of Students for a Democratic Society and the intellectual guru of the New Left who was convicted (and later acquitted) at the Chicago Seven trial for inciting a riot at the 1968 Democratic National Convention.


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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: fakingit; fonda; kerry; liar; vietgate
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1 posted on 02/23/2004 11:47:10 AM PST by thesummerwind
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To: thesummerwind
identified himself as one of the men Kerry saved in a "hellacious firefight." Rassmann said he survived only because Kerry, wounded himself

bandaid wound?

2 posted on 02/23/2004 11:50:52 AM PST by thesummerwind (Like painted kites, those days and nights, they went flyin' by)
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To: thesummerwind
Kerry & Fonda 2004
'Dick'& Jane 2004
'Dick' & 'Dickless' 2004
3 posted on 02/23/2004 11:54:40 AM PST by batmast
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To: thesummerwind
Ketchup's campaign musta looked far and wide to dig up Rasmussen.
4 posted on 02/23/2004 11:55:55 AM PST by lilylangtree (Veni, Vidi, Vici)
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To: batmast
An open letter to Senator John F. Kerry

My wife had rotator cuff surgery earlier this year, and the recovery is terribly painful. Then, she developed a staph-epi infection, and they had to cut the same scar open and operate on her again. Just thinking about the pain and anxiety of facing that painful surgery a second time in the same wound, makes me cringe. That experience, however pales in comparison to what I am going through right now, in my heart.

The old hurts are surfacing and the feelings of betrayal by fellow citizens, and their leader stirring them up, are breaking my heart again. I am being cut in the same scar. How did we who served in Vietnam suddenly become cold-blooded killers, torturers, and rapists, of the ilk of the Nazi SS or the Taliban? Most of us were American soldiers who grew up idolizing John Wayne, Roy Rogers, and all the other heroes. That was why I volunteered. But for political expediency, John Kerry has rewritten history, again.

After spending only four months in the country of Vietnam, John Kerry testified before Congress in 1971 with these exact words about incidents he supposedly witnessed or heard about from other vets: ³They personally raped, cut off ears, cut off heads, taped wires from portable telephones to human genitals and turned up the power, cut off limbs, blown up bodies, randomly shot at civilians, razed villages, shot cattle and dogs for fun, poisoned food stocks, and generally ravaged the countryside of South Vietnam."

I was a green beret officer who volunteered for duty in Vietnam and fought in the thick of it in 1968 and 1969 on a Special Forces A-team on the Ho Chi Minh Trail, just for starters. We were the elite. We saw the most action. Everybody in the world knows that. But we did not just kill people, we built a church, a school, treated illnesses, passed out soap, food, and clothing, and had fun and loving interaction with the indigenous people of Vietnam, just like our boys did in Normandy, Baghdad, Saigon, and everywhere American soldiers ever served. We all gave away our candy bars and rations to kids. Our hearts to oppressed people all over the globe.

My children and grandchildren could read your words, and think those horrendous things about me, Mr. Kerry. You are a bold-faced, unprincipled liar, and a disgrace, and you have dishonored me and all my fellow Vietnam veterans. Sure, there were a couple bad-apples, but I saw none, and I saw it all, and if I did, as an army officer, it was my obligation to stop it, or at the very least report it. Why is there not a single record anywhere of you ever reporting any incidents like this or having the perpetrators arrested? The answer is simple. You are a liar. Your medals and mine are not a free pass for lifetime, Senator Kerry, to bypass character, integrity, and morality. I earn my green beret over and over daily in all aspects of my life.

Eight National Guard green berets, and other National Guard soldiers, have been killed in Iraq and Afghanistan, and you totally dishonored their widows and families by lumping National Guard service in with being a draft-dodger, conscientious objector, and deserter, just so you can try to sabotage the patriotism of our President who proudly served as an Air National Guard jet pilot. I have a son earning his green beret at Fort Bragg right now, and his wife serves honorably in the Air National Guard, just like President Bush did, and I am as proud of her as I am my son. I volunteered for Vietnam and have no problem whatsoever with President Bush being our Commander-In-Chief. In fact, I am proud of him as our leader.

John Kerry, you personally derailed the Vietnam Human Rights Bill, HR2883, in 2001, after it had passed the House by a 411 to 1 vote, and thousands of pro-American Montagnard tribespeople in Vietnam died since then who could have been saved, by you. Earlier, as Chair of the Senate Select Committee on MIA/POW Affairs, you personally quashed the efforts of any and all veterans to report sightings of living POW¹s, when you held those reins in Congress. You have fought tooth and nail to push for the US to normalize relations with Vietnam for years. Why, Mr. Kerry? Simple, your first cousin C. Stewart Forbes, CEO, of Colliers International, recently signed a contract with Hanoi, worth BILLIONS of dollars for Collier¹s International to become the exclusive real estate representative for the country of Vietnam.

"Hanoi John," now that it works for you, you beat your chest about your Vietnam service, but to me, you are a phony, opportunistic, hypocrite. You are one of those politicians that is like a fertilizer machine: all that comes out of you is horse manure, and you are spreading it everywhere. Medals do not make a man. Morals do.

5 posted on 02/23/2004 11:59:16 AM PST by thesummerwind (Like painted kites, those days and nights, they went flyin' by)
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To: billorites; leadpenny; MikeWUSAF; Cinnamon Girl; BraveMan; whinecountry; Straight Pipes; ...
Ping
6 posted on 02/23/2004 12:02:50 PM PST by thesummerwind (Like painted kites, those days and nights, they went flyin' by)
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Speaking as one who served in RVN and who grew up in the era of the Viet Nam War I clearly remember JFK/LBJ and the cadre of the "Nations Best and Brightest" who ran Camelot and the VN War.

Because they thought of themselves as the "Best and Brightest" in the country, they could not think of themselves as being wrong in anything they did.

McNamara and the DC Politico's micromanaged the VN war and could not conceive that it was possible that the military knew how to win the war.

We lost in Viet Nam because of McNamara and LBJ, aided and abetted by the likes of John Kerry and Jane Fonda and their hangers on.

To say I am still pi**ed after all these years about how the veterans and the whole country were treated and sold down the river by these communist sympathizers would be an understatement.

signed

Another fervent Kerry (he served in Viet Nam don't you know) supporter (SARCASM in case you missed it)
7 posted on 02/23/2004 12:09:14 PM PST by My dog Sam
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Bottom line: They didn't know what they were doing, and an estimated 58,168 Americans and more than a million Vietnamese paid for it with their lives.

Sadly, that wasn't even close to the bottom line. After 1975 when the evil Yankees were gone and the Commies had its way, another 2.5 - 3 million innocents from S.E. Asia died at the hands of Fonda's "Agrarian Reformers" while another million or more were scattered through the world or at the bottom of the South China Sea escaping form the great socialist experiment.

Mr. Rieland --- you have much more blood on your hands than LBJ or Nixon. Maybe Vietnam was "none of America's business", but I despise these sanctimonious yuppie idiots who now claim they were only interested in saving lives. That is pure BS. They were interested in a Commie victory.

8 posted on 02/23/2004 12:09:27 PM PST by Ditto ( No trees were killed in sending this message, but billions of electrons were inconvenienced.)
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And Hannity is still selling his book..........what an A**HOLE!
9 posted on 02/23/2004 12:11:58 PM PST by thesummerwind (Like painted kites, those days and nights, they went flyin' by)
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To: thesummerwind
Beautifully put. I wished I had your eloquence.

Semper Fidelis
10 posted on 02/23/2004 12:13:53 PM PST by My dog Sam
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To: Ditto
Sadly, that wasn't even close to the bottom line. After 1975 when the evil Yankees were gone and the Commies had its way, another 2.5 - 3 million innocents from S.E. Asia died at the hands of Fonda's "Agrarian Reformers>>>>

agreed

Bless you for being aware.

11 posted on 02/23/2004 12:15:11 PM PST by thesummerwind (Like painted kites, those days and nights, they went flyin' by)
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To: thesummerwind
Fonda told Duke University students in 1970, "If you understood what Communism was, you would hope and pray on your knees that we would someday become Communist."

The irony of communists praying aside, this was a year BEFORE Kerry's "Winter Soldier" Treason. You're known by the company you keep.

Kerry is also an admitted war criminal.

12 posted on 02/23/2004 12:16:44 PM PST by onedoug
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To: Ditto
I despise these sanctimonious yuppie idiots who now claim they were only interested in saving lives. That is pure BS.

thank you for your wisdom.

13 posted on 02/23/2004 12:17:35 PM PST by thesummerwind (Like painted kites, those days and nights, they went flyin' by)
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The leftists have belatedly noticed the gaping vulnerability created by their boy's 1971 accusation that the American military was a mass murder machine, and they are now lying and spinning in a most gratifying manner.

We'll see how that works out.

14 posted on 02/23/2004 12:18:01 PM PST by Interesting Times (ABCNNBCBS -- yesterday's news.)
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To: onedoug
God, I hate these people. And.................... the most important thing to me is that this WEASEL who wrote this article used to be a friend of mine here in Pittsburgh!!

What a slimeball!!

15 posted on 02/23/2004 12:20:48 PM PST by thesummerwind (Like painted kites, those days and nights, they went flyin' by)
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I like that last post alot. And yes, Kerry is a hypocrite. It'll become utterly obvious.
16 posted on 02/23/2004 12:22:39 PM PST by writer33 (The U.S. Constitution defines a Conservative)
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"Though Fonda, Hayden and Kerry were once seen as radicals, eventually even former Secretary of Defense Robert McNamara came to believe that the war, which polarized America like nothing since the Civil War, was wrong."

I find this extremely offensive. Just because McNamara may have changed his opinion about the war, doesn't exhonerate what these radicals did...nor should there be such an implication. There is a big difference between honest dissent in the protestation of a war, and marching with those who wanted to see the US defeated. This revisionism is almost as dispicable as their cowardly acts.
17 posted on 02/23/2004 12:35:58 PM PST by cwb (Kerry may have saved one man but he abandoned thousands of others)
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Agreed!
18 posted on 02/23/2004 12:40:15 PM PST by thesummerwind (Like painted kites, those days and nights, they went flyin' by)
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To: cwb
There is a big difference between honest dissent in the protestation of a war, and marching with those who wanted to see the US defeated. >>>>>>

And the mainstream media will lie for Kerry forever!

19 posted on 02/23/2004 12:41:40 PM PST by thesummerwind (Like painted kites, those days and nights, they went flyin' by)
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"We of the Kennedy and Johnson administrations... were wrong, terribly wrong. We owe it to future generations to explain why." -Robert S. McNamara

Sure, Bob. I'd be happy to explain it, and many of us present at the time saw it clearly...

You were pansy-assed Liberals who refused to fight the War to "win". Instead, you got us deep into it and then when hard decisions on "victory" had to be made, you decided to fight the War to an "amicable negotiation". It was the other side which fought to "win".

You and your ilk sold us out, Bob. I include the other "Bob" (Kerry) in with your feckless "ilk" as your policies were the same puff-up and then cut-and-run sort.

There. Do you feel better, Bob? I sure hope I haven't hurt your feelings!

20 posted on 02/23/2004 12:41:53 PM PST by Gritty ("I can't get my head round the whole retro this-is-the-aging-of-the-dawn-of-Aquarius scene"-Mk Steyn)
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