Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

(Ohio) State panel backs disputed lesson, infuriates supporters of evolution
Cleveland Plain Dealer ^ | 2/11/04 | Scott Stephens

Posted on 02/12/2004 7:43:32 AM PST by ThinkPlease

Columbus - The State Board of Education gave preliminary approval Tuesday to a 10th-grade biology lesson that scientists say could put "intelligent design" in Ohio classrooms.

Setting aside an impassioned plea from the National Academy of Sciences, the board voted 13-4 to declare its intent to adopt the "Critical Analysis of Evolution" lesson next month.

The academy warned that doing so would give a green light to teaching intelligent design, the idea that life is so complex that a higher being must have created it.

The disputed lesson plan has thrust Ohio back into the middle of a national fight over how to best teach the origins and development of life on Earth to public school children.

That fight is between supporters and critics of Charles Darwin's theory that life evolved through natural processes, a battle that has raged since the "monkey trial" of biology teacher John Scopes nearly 80 years ago.

"It's a sad day for science in Ohio," said Patricia Princehouse, who teaches biological evolution at Case Western Reserve University. "This opens up the reputation of Ohio scientists to ridicule nationally and internationally."

Board member James Turner of Cincinnati, who supported the lesson plan, said he believed some members of the scientific community were overreacting.

"I think this is a case of passion lacking perspective," he said.

“I reject the notion that this lesson somehow advances the notion of intelligent design or creationism,” Turner said.

Princehouse and other scientists complained that much of the language in the lesson plan came from Jonathan Wells' “Icons of Evolution,” a seminal text in the intelligent design movement. The board’s standards committee Monday deleted the title of the book from the lesson plan’s bibliography, but critics complained that Wells’ ideas remained.

Princehouse and others vowed to fight the measure and predicted a court challenge if the lesson plan stands. The board will take a final vote on the measure next month, although changes to the lesson are possible through June.

Board member Martha Wise of Avon, who opposes the lesson plan, said support for the measure reflects a turnover on the board that has left it more conservative than the body that approved the state’s science standards 14 months ago. Supporters of the lesson plan said it simply reflects the science standards the board adopted in December 2002, which called for students to examine criticisms of biological evolution. They also argue that Ohio’s curriculum will include more arguments on behalf of evolution than standards in most other states.

“I wish intelligent design were in the lesson — then there would be something to complain about,” said Robert Lattimer, a Hudson chemist and outspoken intelligent design supporter. “But it’s simply not there.”

Teachers are not required to use the model curriculum, but exams such as the state’s new graduation test will test children on what the curriculum covers.

Debate about the lesson plan rose to such a fevered pitch this week that the board’s president, Jennifer Sheets of Pomeroy, took the extraordinary step of admonishing her colleagues against attacking one another or members of the public.

Tempers continued to flare after the vote. Board member Sam Schloemer said Ohio Department of Education officials were pressured by intelligent design advocates on the board to make sure the writing team of educators and scientists came up with a lesson plan sympathetic to intelligent design. He called on Gov. Bob Taft to intervene.

“Senior level staff members at the Department of Education are ready to revolt,” said Schloemer of Cincinnati. “They’re totally embarrassed by this whole process. If the governor would call it off, it would be gone.”

Taft spokesman Orest Holubec said the governor had no intention of getting involved in the board’s work. “The governor has faith in the board members and expects they will approve curriculum based on the standards they adopted in 2002,” he said.

To reach this Plain Dealer reporter: sstephens@plaind.com, 216-999-4827


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Philosophy; US: Indiana; US: Ohio
KEYWORDS: creation; crevolist; evolution; intelligentdesign
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061 next last
To: newgeezer
Your perception (about evolution being a science) is sadly, wrong.

Is Evolution Science?
29+ Evidences for Macroevolution: The Scientific Case for Common Descent.

21 posted on 02/12/2004 11:12:04 AM PST by PatrickHenry (Felix, qui potuit rerum cognoscere causas.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: newgeezer
Your beliefs are based on a set of assumptions, in which you place your faith. Same here, just different assumptions.

Actually, no. The difference is that in science, those assumptions are challengable and can change if evidence comes up to support a change in those assumptions. Basing all your assumptions on a pre-written text is very different - it provides no mechanism to deal with conflict. I often hear people criticizing scientific theories because they keep changing. As we say in computer science, that's not a bug, it's a feature!

Note that I'm not defending evolutionary theory or any other scientific theory in the preceding paragraph. Just explaining the difference in assumptions used by scientists as opposed to assumptions from religious-based beliefs.
22 posted on 02/12/2004 11:19:27 AM PST by Stone Mountain
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: Stone Mountain
Basing all your assumptions on a pre-written text is very different - it provides no mechanism to deal with conflict.

Basing all your assumptions on a literal interpretation of a Bronze Age text is very different - it provides no mechanism to deal with conflict.

23 posted on 02/12/2004 11:36:26 AM PST by balrog666 (Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 22 | View Replies]

To: All
Remember DarwinCentral Agents, do NOT, under any circumstances, disparage the great northern state of Ohio. We must reserve state bashing to Dixie states only.

(If you don't get it, you had to be there).
24 posted on 02/12/2004 11:40:08 AM PST by whattajoke (Neutiquam erro.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 23 | View Replies]

To: whattajoke
Thank you for calling Darwin Central! Please choose from one of the following options:
To tell us that evolution is "just a theory," press 1.
To tell us there's no evidence of transitional species, press 2.
To tell us the odds against evolution are "proof" that it's impossible, press 3.
To tell us that we're all commies, nazis, or atheists, press 4.
To tell us that evolution is a faith-based religion or a Satanic plot, press 5.
To tell us that we have a naturalistic, materialistic worldview, press 6.
To tell us about Piltdown Man, press 7.
To recite from the book of Genesis, press 8.
To read us something from a Jack Chick comic, press 9.
To tell us you accept micro evolution, but not macro evolution, press 0.
To tell us we can't prove the origin of life, press the pound sign.
To speak to a live evolutionist, please stay on the line.
To listen to these choices again, hang up and redial. And thank you for calling Darwin Central.
25 posted on 02/12/2004 11:49:57 AM PST by PatrickHenry (Felix, qui potuit rerum cognoscere causas.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 24 | View Replies]

To: VadeRetro
But he would have said it, not written it.

Maybe he was dictating...

26 posted on 02/12/2004 11:50:01 AM PST by Dementon (I hear the voices in my head, I swear to God it sounds like they're snoring...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 17 | View Replies]

To: antiRepublicrat
You need to spend some study time on what the new science actually reveals about darwinite beliefs, and less on suspicions about their motives.
27 posted on 02/12/2004 12:09:26 PM PST by metacognative
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: metacognative
You need to spend some study time on what the new science actually reveals about darwinite beliefs, and less on suspicions about their motives.

I already have. Original ID died out almost 150 years ago when it was displaced by evolution. Neo-ID sprouted from American creationists who couldn't get their religious beliefs taught in public schools due to separation issues, and therefore tried to turn their religious beliefs into a non-religious pseudo-theory they hoped would be accepted.

The ID movement is mainly aimed at attacking evolution theory. This is evident in the proposed curriculum. That in itself casts doubts on the veracity of the claims. Evolution gained strength simply on its own merits, pushing ID to extinction by ignoring it and offering a better solution, not attacking it.

28 posted on 02/12/2004 12:44:44 PM PST by antiRepublicrat
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 27 | View Replies]

The ID movement is mainly aimed at attacking evolution theory.

Trojan Horse Placemarker

29 posted on 02/12/2004 1:35:23 PM PST by Modernman ("When you want to fool the world, tell the truth." -Otto von Bismarck)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 28 | View Replies]

To: antiRepublicrat
Have you read any of Philip E. Johnson's books? How about Michael Denton?
30 posted on 02/12/2004 1:52:00 PM PST by metacognative
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 28 | View Replies]

To: ThinkPlease
Great, I friggen LIVE there and now they pull something like this?
Why is it these people don't seem to think professors and scientists
are experts in their field? They didn't spend all that time at
evil medical school for a title...
31 posted on 02/12/2004 2:10:40 PM PST by Saturnalia (My name is Matt Foley and I live in a VAN down by the RIVER.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: metacognative
You need to spend some study time on what the new science actually reveals about darwinite beliefs, and less on suspicions about their motives.

You appear to be more knowledgeable about ID than I might be. Is there a testable ID theory with predictive power that has actually been rigorously applied to the biological sciences?

32 posted on 02/12/2004 2:18:38 PM PST by ThinkPlease (Fortune Favors the Bold!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 27 | View Replies]

To: antiRepublicrat
You give them far too much credit:

and therefore tried to turn their religious beliefs into a non-religious pseudo-theory they hoped would be accepted. [ID, that is]

It's not even a "pseudo-theory..." more of a "totally bs unscholarly pipedream."
33 posted on 02/12/2004 3:08:09 PM PST by whattajoke (Neutiquam erro.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 28 | View Replies]

To: metacognative
You need to spend some study time on what the new science actually reveals about darwinite beliefs, and less on suspicions about their motives.

Your "new science" is the "old creationism."

34 posted on 02/12/2004 4:08:56 PM PST by VadeRetro
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 27 | View Replies]

To: ThinkPlease
Board member Martha Wise of Avon, who opposes the lesson plan, said support for the measure reflects a turnover on the board that has left it more conservative than the body that approved the state’s science standards 14 months ago.

The creatinoid albatross just keeps getting fatter.

35 posted on 02/12/2004 7:04:43 PM PST by RightWingNilla
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

fat placemarker
36 posted on 02/12/2004 7:06:33 PM PST by js1138
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 35 | View Replies]

To: RightWingNilla
The creatinoid albatross just keeps getting fatter.

Not that many people are following the controversy now, but an the assault on education in Ohio will only help the liberals in the long run.

37 posted on 02/12/2004 7:10:28 PM PST by VadeRetro
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 35 | View Replies]

To: ThinkPlease
God can't be the designer. That would be blasphemy.

I've been wearing glasses since I was 12, I can hardly run a quarter mile because my knees hurt so much, and I've been having spasms in my back for 35 years.

If we were designed, we were designed by an idiot.
38 posted on 02/12/2004 7:14:20 PM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: <1/1,000,000th%
If we were designed, we were designed by an idiot.

Yeah, and what the hell are all these dead viruses doing in my genome!?!

39 posted on 02/12/2004 7:27:39 PM PST by RightWingNilla
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 38 | View Replies]

To: VadeRetro
This is mind-boggling. What are they putting in the water in Ohio?

They might as well be teaching kids this.

40 posted on 02/12/2004 7:30:58 PM PST by RightWingNilla
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 37 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson