What We Can Do To Help Defeat the "Gay" Agenda

self | February 11, 2004 | little jeremiah

[little jeremiah]

What We Can Do To Defeat The "Gay" Agenda

Dear Fellow Freepers,

The following informal essay has two parts, the first consisting of ideas of what individuals or small groups can do to help thwart, roll back, defeat and otherwise throw a monkey wrench into the onslaught of the "gay" agenda and their stated goal to destroy the moral fabric of society. I am hoping that discussion will ensue, with theoretical ideas as well as accomplished plans. Information and knowledge are the key. Since most people just watch TV and read the establishment media, which are lapdogs of the "gay" elite, they just do not know the truth about homosexuality.

The second part is my analysis of the root cause of the homosexual movement, going a bit deeper than environment and molestation. It is "religious" or "spiritual" in aspect, so anyone who wishes to avoid that type of discussion can avoid it! This analysis is germane to the cure, not only of the homosexual agenda, but the untrammeled hedonism and libertinism of which homosexuality is the poster child.

[Note: I am not attempting to recap the immediate causes of homosexuality, or prove that it is not inborn, or give evidence as to why same sex acts are abnormal, unhealthy, or immoral, or to prove that homosexuals can change. FR already has hundreds of archived articles of this nature.]

Part One: Ideas on Promoting the Truth about Homosexuality

A friend of ours homeschools her children, so as to protect them from the horrible influence of public schools, instill her personal moral values, and give them the best education possible. She knew that homosexuality was unhealthy, immoral, and unnatural, but until I gave her books and booklets I purchased from Scott Lively's website (www.abidingtruth.com) she was not able to articulate her viewpoint. After studying the materials I provided, she became a one-woman task force, gave her elderly father books to read, and shared the books with the charter/homeschool teacher. The teacher, who also had not been very well-informed, had her mind blown (so to speak) and ordered more materials for herself, and placed a link to Lively's website on her personal website. Lively has a number of very informative booklets that can be purchased in bulk cheap, and they are great for distributing. So because I informed one friend, many others have been informed. This particular charter school is all for homeschooled children, and there are about 500 families involved.

By purchasing Lively's materials (or reprints from other groups such as NAARTH and the Family Research Council) and making them available at your church, synagogue or other house of worship, many people can become informed. Materials can be purchased and mailed or given to pastors at other churches, or any organization or club that you belong to.

I have found that if I talk to people in the line at the grocery store, or the cashier, often people are happy to find that others have the same viewpoint, but they are afraid to admit that they think same sex acts to be unhealthy or wrong. Just by speaking up in public, we can encourage others to think for themselves, and not be intimidated by social pressure.

Of course, letters can be written to newspapers (they've never printed one of mine!), legislators, and media people. We could try calling up local talk radio shows to tell the truth or attend school board meetings to protest the homosexual infiltration of the schools. Of course, by doing any of these things we will be "outing" ourselves as homophobes ;-) but that's the risk one takes by speaking the truth.

And then there are guerilla tactics: print up some fact sheets about the nature of and diseases spread by homosexual acts, statistics about molestation rates, etc - make them colorful and readable, and broadcast them about town. Laudromats, bulletin boards in stores, public facilities, rest stops, community college or other educational institutions, any place you can find. Good places would be where there is a lot of foot traffic, especially where high school kids can see them. High schools kids are really being targeted by homosexual activists, so the more they can see the truth, the better.

Another post-it tactic: make or obtain stickers with the names and phone numbers of organizations that help people overcome homosexuality, and stick them near high schools, colleges, downtowns, and so on. You never know whose life might change because of one phone call. Or, place ads in the classified ads section of local newspapers or weekly magazines with the same information.

Other promotional ideas are bumper stickers (make you own, or maybe someone knows where to order pro-family stickers). Ideas for slogans: Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve; Marriage=One Man+One Woman; Children Need a Mother and Father, Not Two of a Kind; Same Sex Acts Are Not Healthy For Living Things; Want to get AIDS? Be Gay!; Don't confuse "Exit" with "Entry"; Don't Mess With Marriage; "Gay" Sex Isn't Gay…. These could also be signs in car windows, yard signs, signs held at rallies.

Protest at "Gay Pride" Parades. If protesting at such public events, wear protective clothing and go in groups, carry antiseptic handwipes and have a camera and maybe tape recorder. No telling what might ensue. Here's an idea that someone freepmailed to me, and it sounds good:

"I have an idea I'd like to pass your way. I suggest that we get permits to set up tables in front of (or near) our respective churches/synagogues along the local "Pride" parade routes this coming June, with literature about reparative therapy. Each table should also have someone there to document all the juvenile insults and threats thrown our way on a videocam, and send copies of the films to the local tv news to include as part of their coverage."

These are just a few ideas. Let's hear yours!

Part Two: The Root Cause of Homosexuality

Everyone needs happiness, love and pleasure. These needs stem directly from the soul, and get interpreted through the body - think of how many people eat because they are lonely, depressed, or in anxiety. A healthy balanced person will eat when hungry, and when in need of companionship will turn to a relative, friend, or even pet for company. The need for love is really paramount, a deeper need than the bodily requirements. What hurts more, a broken heart, or a hungry stomach? Our culture has denied the fact - basic to all religions (probably a few exceptions, but this is not the debate here) - that human beings even have souls, what to speak of the needs of the soul. In fact, the accepted "scientifically based" theory is that humans are just machines, made of chemicals, evolved by accident, and the "self" doesn’t even really exist. In an atmosphere of such impersonal nihilism, it is natural that many people will be easily convinced that real love, real happiness, real heart to heart connection, don't exist.

What can take its place? Instant pleasure. Shopping. Drug and alcohol abuse. Or, most seductive of all, orgasms. And since the sexual organs have no conscience, a wide variety of options is available to people who have been convinced that God doesn't exist, there are no rules - or higher purpose - to life, and instant gratification is the only yardstick to measure happiness with.

There are two kinds of happiness - the kind that comes from the outside - eating, sex, comforts, and the devices or arrangements that facilitate such, as well as more intangible pleasures such as accomplishments, goals achieved, music, arts, learning, and so on. The second kind of happiness comes only from within the heart, and this happiness is our relationship with God. Jesus said that the Kingdom of God is within us, and the same truth is stated in Hindu scriptures (the Vedas) as well. A surrendered soul can experience the loving embrace of God anywhere, any time - if he truly desires and strives for this loving relationship. The experience that God is my best friend, my only refuge, my source of happiness, and indeed, the very foundation for and purpose of my existence - is the only real meaning of religion. Currently, in many religions, the concept that God is a real Person is left out, glossed over, He is described as an amorphous mystery, or that "we are God", or that He is just energy or a force. But according to Jesus, the teachings in the Old Testament, and the teachings of the Vedas, re-establishing a loving relationship with the Supreme Person is the only thing that will fill the emptiness in our hearts. If this knowledge is denied, as in most of our culture, people will seek to fill this void by any means at hand. And if the moral absolutes that are part of God's instructions to humanity are tossed out, then anything goes. If sexual pleasure is the goal of life, and there are no eternal moral truths, then there is no reason to not accept same sex acts, or, for that matter, any kind of sexual activity.

Therefore, the real antidote to the "gay" agenda, as well as the breakdown of civilization it heralds, is the spiritual awakening of many individuals, and the understanding that such an awakening is not only important but essential.

[little jeremiah]

Thanks for your ideas - now all we need is a printing place that will print them!

If you read up the thread, I mentioned a friend who was sued at his city work place. He had a bumper sticker that said "STOP AIDS:" and a cicle with a line through two stick figure men performing < ahem > an unnatural act. Not gross or anything, it was just clear what was being prohibited. I thought it was pretty good.

One time when I lived in OR I had a bumper sticker - just Yes on Measure whatever it was to stop promoting homosexuality in schools, and homosexuals came over to my house to yell and harrass me and my spousal unit. At 10PM no less!

IMHO, we conservatives had better start a good offense (it's the best defense) or Sodom and Gomorrah will be happening one way or another.

[AppauledAtAppeasementConservat]

"One time when I lived in OR I had a bumper sticker - just Yes on Measure whatever it was to stop promoting homosexuality in schools, and homosexuals came over to my house to yell and harrass me and my spousal unit. At 10PM no less!"

What happened? Did you call the police?

[EdReform]

BTTT

[stopem]

You are correct, the fact that they spread HIV and have astronomical health bills why in the world would a state like Virginia that I thought was a conservative republican state just pass a bill that allows the gay "partner" to purchase health insurance for the other partner??

This is getting sicker by the minute. (literally)

[stopem]

Be careful they are becoming extremely militant and dangerous, SERIOUSLY! Remember these people are mentally ill.

[little jeremiah]

No, we just argued with them and then I handed them a couple page xerox copied info-page I had stapled together to hand out at a university homo-fest, detailing sordid but true information about the homosexual lifestyle. That REALLY freaked them out! They were the female variety, so they were extra awful.

Spousal unit and self don't "look" conservative at all (longhair, the one that should have a beard has one, sometimes we even wear tie-dye!)- so they had automatically thought we were leftist-bots, but man, were they surprised!!

Heheh.

[VxH]

Having a little trouble with the definition of "Abomination", are you?

[Askel5]

=== Having a little trouble with the definition of "Abomination", are you?

Not at all. Without a doubt, homosexuality is an abomination in God's eyes. And likely because -- as with manmade contraception, serial polygamy, single parenthood -- it goes against what He has ordained for humans on this earth.

But it's for God to condemn homosexuals, not us. Where our own "rights" have rendered us morally and patently the equivalent of homosexuals where marriage -- the right to have or NOT to have children -- is concerned, we just have no business pretending we're in a position to point fingers, that's all.

A routing of the Homosexual Agenda is only rightfully begun by reclaiming our full slate of obligations and responsibilities as heterosexuals -- particularly where some correctly presume the sacrament of marriage is concerned.

Those who've already shut God out of the equation are especially ill-suited to proclaiming they are somehow distinct from or blessed by God in a way that homosexuals seeking lifetime monogamous relations are not.

[Jorge]

One of the most important rules in effectively countering the gay agenda is to avoid coming off as the Fred Phelps and other hate mongers.

Protesting at funerals of AIDS victims by claiming they deserve it, or carrying "God hates fags" signs will do more to promote the gay agenda than gays could ever do themselves.

Unless you can present a level-headed and compassionate attitude while showing the dangers of the gay agenda, your efforts are going to backfire.

[Jeff Gordon]

What would Christ do?

[AppauledAtAppeasementConservat]

Well good to hear that it wasn't anything more than a verbal exchange. You'd do better I think to simply print a list of what teachers are foistering their ideals on our children so parents can get our children removed from those classes. That would go along way at preventing further indoctrination and possible molestation. Are there any lists for public schools or colleges to that effect. I personally know of a friend of mine that her child is coming how daily talking about how ok it is to be gay. If I find out any info on what teacher or group is targeting these children I will be glad to pass it on to whomever may wish to publish it. Any legal organizations you know of that are willing to investigate these matters?

[little jeremiah]

Are you referring to my messages here, or my story of ten years ago? As far as I am concerned, Phelps is a crazy wicked man. I personally have no hatred for homosexuals. But I am angry at their attempt to subert and pervert our country (and other countries) to the detriment of everyone, including themselves. They are attacking, and being Mr. Nice Guy has gotten us where we are today.

Telling the truth is what is needed. Dancing the minuet won't do any good.

I also consider protesting at funerals of AIDS sufferers not only stupid, but cruel. But look - there's a war on. Daily, kids are being indoctrinated and recruited in schools. They're using big guns, and fighting back with diplomacy is like waving a white flag.

[little jeremiah]

Well, he beat the money changers at the Temple with a rope, IIRC.

He told the adulteress - who was repentent - to go and sin no more.

He also condemned those who cause harm to children, remember? Better they have a millstone tied around their necks.

[little jeremiah]

See post #65 above. There's a link to abidingtruth.com - it has a sister site defendthefamily.com. There are tons of materials especially for schools, parents and kids. The organization has some kind of outreach program for high school kids, and programs they can attend. Please check out that link, and read up. There's at least a couple of books about how to protect children from being "recruited" into homosexuality, and some short booklets - written very clearly, simply so that any kid can understand - about why homosexuality is wrong, unnatural and unhealthy.

They have tremendous resources, and are now one of the two legal groups trying to fight the "gay" marriage scene in SF. In fact, tomorrow I'll type up a letter I just got from them about that, and either post it here or start a new thread.

[little jeremiah]

Go to the link on post #68. That's a start, and later tonight or tomorrow I'll put up some more links to what the "gay" agenda is currently doing in schools. Or you can try a FR search using words like homosexuals in schools, or gay agenda and schools, or something. I'm really a computer dunce, it's hit or miss with me. But there have been a lot of articles about this topic lately. Try a search using "fistgate" - that'll curl your hair.

It's no joke. They are after kids, and they are succeeding. And if we do nothing, we're letting them.

[little jeremiah]

Here's a link to some horrible stuff that goes on every year in Massachusetts:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1079750/posts

Another point to consider is that even if parents take their kid out of the homosexual indoctrination classes, the kid is then surrounded by their peers who have been so influenced. Leaving kids in public school even with parental slips opting them out is still very dangerous.

[Jeff Gordon]

Better they have a millstone tied around their necks (and to be drowned in the depths of the sea).

Matthew 18

I do remember that passage. The crime was not exactly "harming" a child in all aspects of possible "harm" but was limited to causing a child to sin.

I always had trouble reconciling that command with the command of forgiving your brother seventy seven times. That and the following parable that tells us that unless we forgive those who trespass upon us, God will not forgive us our trespasses.

[little jeremiah]

There's a huge difference between forgicing those who harm ME, for instance, and forgiving those who harm someone ELSE? How can I fogive thsoe who harm someone else? That's the job of someone ELSE. Often people get the whole concept of forgiveness confused. Dr. Laura talked about it (either on the radio or in a book, can't remember). But we cannot possibly forgive someone who has harmed someone else. It's downright arrrogant, and actually kind of insults the someone else. Say someone punches you in the face, and a total stranger rushes up to the perp (who isn't even sorry, by the way) and says to him, "I forgive you, I forgive you".

See the absrudity of that?

The other problem is that when a person does evil - and I am not tlaking about a privately practicing homosexual, who is not a predator, not a liberal, doesn't endorse what is going on, and doens't molest young people or give others AIDS - and this homosexual continues to do these things, isn't sorry, isn't about to stop - it's actually psychotic to forgive this person. FIrst of all, you'd have to keep forgiving him over and over, since he is continuing to do evil over and over. Second of all, this shallow forgiveness doesn't do him any good.

What will do him good is condemning what he does, in no uncertain terms. While maintaining an attitude of care about this person. I can love someone, while being angry at WHAT THEY DO. If I forgive someone who is advocating molesting and indoctrinating young people, this is not love, it is stupidity. And I will be contributing to the continuing evil that is done, with my (in essence) stamp of approval.

[VxH]

>> in a way that homosexuals seeking lifetime monogamous relations are not.


Clever rationalization.

No Sale.

[little jeremiah]

I replied to you without editing, my laptop was about to go into hibernation (battery is dead), I didn't have time to fix the crazy spelling, and I didn't want to lose what I'd written. SORRY!