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Conservatives Need to Get Real
The Intellectual Conservative ^ | 02 February 2004 | Scott Shore

Posted on 02/11/2004 11:00:20 AM PST by Lando Lincoln

While President Bush may not be a conservative’s perfect president, the alternative should shake any discontents to active support of the President.

As a conservative, I agree with most of the criticism that has been leveled at President Bush amongst Republicans and conservatives. While I support the President’s foreign and defense policies, I think that the Administration has tried to do the impossible—preempt the Left on their own issues. Republicans were not put on this earth to increase the size of government, create massive new programs like Medicare, spend billions of dollars on AIDS in Africa, fund the UN renovation, expand the Federal role in education or pursue a reckless policy of granting amnesty to illegal foreigners working in the US. None of these initiatives by the President will, in the end, take votes from the Democratic core base. Democrats are much better and far more willing to outspend any Republican program that expands the Welfare State. The strong suit of Republicans is limited government, lower taxes, individual responsibility and strong national defense. Karl Rove may be right that some of the President’s big government initiatives may neutralize some independents. In any case, conservatives could have hoped for much more in a Washington where Republicans control both the White House and Congress.

Having said all that, I intend to do whatever I can to reelect President Bush. The reason is simple. The alternative is unthinkable. A tax increase by rolling back the President’s much needed tax relief will not go to reduce the deficit but to fund massive new social programs, especially some form of universal national health care system. The stimulus of tax relief will be gone and the deadweight of new taxes and government program will lead to a much larger deficit. Moreover, the hue and cry over the deficit is only logical if the deficit grows as a percentage of GDP over a period of years. Economic recovery can shrink the deficit in a relatively short time -- provided there is no new spending. A Democrat will give us the worst of both worlds -- higher taxes and higher spending.

A Democratic economic policy is also lethal to the American middle class and small business. The repeal of most taxes to the “wealthy” proposed by the Democrats are really to two-income families that are just getting by and are clearly the backbone of the middle-class and small business owners who pay income tax; their business is not a corporation but a family business that is a sole proprietorship. An increase in dividend taxation or capital gains will put the financial markets in a tailspin and further retard the growth of new or expanded business activity.

Universal health care has an interesting twist that few seem to be discussing. If people are concerned about possible invasions of privacy because of the Patriot Act, imagine the access to private information available to Big Brother when he gets his hands on your medical records. Once the government is subsidizing our health, how long will it take before certain health lifestyles or diets become a matter of government concern over its citizens? Should we expect a universal health care system to deliver the same value as our compulsory educational system? In fact, the Democrats are likely to create an even greater rift between the Haves and Have-Nots in healthcare by allowing only the wealthiest Americans to pay for private services. Besides this, universal health will either bankrupt the economy since the demand for healthcare is virtually without limit or it will require the government to ration healthcare. Do we really want the delivery of healthcare to become a matter of political bargaining? Imagine the hypocrisy of those who are adamant that the relationship between a doctor and patient is sacrosanct when it comes to abortion, but would make almost all medical procedures a matter of public policy mandates in the future. Imagine your worst nightmare of an HMO and then increase that exponentially and you begin to get the real meaning of Universal Health Care. As for the eventual bill for this service, look to the past at all other federal entitlement programs. To make matters worse, no Democrat is going to support Medical Practice Tort Reform which is contributing to the skyrocketed growth of healthcare costs.

How will Democrats deal with other issues of free market choice for individuals? No Democrat supports any level of privatization of Social Security for retirement. There is no support for school vouchers or alternatives to the monopoly of the public school system. Finally there is no support for private Health Savings Accounts among the Democrats. While Republicans will at least look for market-based solutions to public policy issues, the unions and bureaucratic constituencies of the Democrats virtually insures no such innovation.

On the matter of illegal immigration, the Democrats are more likely to pass a liberal new amnesty program than any GOP administration. The reason is that the Hispanic community seems to be “in play” and this is one constituency the Democrats really need to lock up in order to strengthen their position on the West Coast and in the Southwest.

One can only imagine the kind of social activist judges and Supreme Court justices that would be appointed by the Democratic nominee. The Federal Judiciary will begin to resemble the lunacy of the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals in San Francisco. Can any responsible citizen sit home and allow the judiciary to lunge to the Left? This alone should energize conservatives. The dismantling of all religious tradition or symbolism in public life is likely to continue with a Democratic President and a liberal judiciary.

The final issue is one of national security. Certainly no one can believe that a Democratic administration will strengthen our intelligence and defense capabilities. It was under Democratic administrations that the CIA and other intelligence agencies became decimated and hand-tied. The Democrats have almost unanimously voted against nearly all major new weapons systems. At a time when we are in fact living in a Third World War, we can not go from a Churchill to a Chamberlain. It is disingenuous for the Democrats to glob onto intelligence deficiencies when they are largely the culprit for lack of human intelligence or material resources in the important area of espionage. In fighting a terrorist enemy, preemption is the natural policy and that requires intelligence first and foremost.

While President Bush may not be a conservative’s perfect president, the alternative should shake any discontents to active support of the President. Moreover, in the area of determining the security threat to the West and taking action, the President may go down as one of our greatest leaders. For the sake of the hope of more prudent domestic policy, judicial restraint and national security, there is really no choice. As for much of the domestic agenda, can we afford to sacrifice the good for the perfect?

Scott Shore is a political commentator and management consultant in Providence, Rhode Island.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events; Philosophy; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: bush; conservatives; gop; gwb2004; leftwing; liberals; rightwing; vichycons
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To: DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet
Don't try to make it look so noble.

Amen!

181 posted on 02/11/2004 2:32:44 PM PST by Howlin
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To: Howlin
If I have one hair left on my head by November, it will be a miracle.
182 posted on 02/11/2004 2:36:17 PM PST by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet (BUSH IN '04: Because we want to outlive Osama Bin Laden.)
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To: DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet
They act like they're going to get another candidate.

They're not.

Why don't they go somewhere and bother another party?
183 posted on 02/11/2004 2:36:55 PM PST by Howlin
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To: Howlin
Because they're complaint junkies. Addicts. Complaining has its place, but at some point it becomes destructive and unhealthy. I would just tune it out if it didn't have major implications for the rest of us.

184 posted on 02/11/2004 2:42:03 PM PST by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet (BUSH IN '04: Because we want to outlive Osama Bin Laden.)
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To: Consort
Speaking of duped, you really think Bush has given us tax cuts?

This brings us to the most important chapter in President Bush's budget, the one entitled "Stewardship." Buried in an appendix volume where reporters are unlikely to notice it, the chapter paints a chilling picture of long-term budgetary trends. It shows federal spending rising from about 20 percent of gross domestic product this year to 53 percent in 2080. Much of this comes from interest on the debt, which rises by 20 percent of GDP. But this is because the budget assumes that taxes will not rise to finance rising entitlement spending. In all likelihood, taxes will rise sharply at some point. It is completely unrealistic to think that federal taxes will remain close to 20 percent of GDP for the next 75 years....The budget itself admits that these trends are "unsustainable." Since Congress will never reduce benefits to retirees, the only way to make the trends sustainable is by raising taxes significantly.

www.nationalreview.com/nrof_bartlett/bartlett200402090843.asp

185 posted on 02/11/2004 2:42:10 PM PST by DManA
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To: KantianBurke
"Words are cheap. If they want conservative votes, they'd better do something conservative to earn them. Because they've worked hard to alienate us so far."


I think he felt banning partial birth abortion would appease the conserves. It has finally dawned on him that it's not working. The medicare care bill has not impressed the elderly, and everyone is furious about the immigration
issue.
If he is going to make his base this mad in his first term going for re-election, I'm a little concerned how bad we get it in the rear when he's a lame duck.
186 posted on 02/11/2004 2:44:05 PM PST by Bogey
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To: DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet
I just cannot figure out why they're complaining about OUR candidate. If they don't like him, fine; but the RNC IS going to run George W. Bush this year, come hell or highwater.

They need to spend as much time finding a new party for themselves as they do backbiting on FR.
187 posted on 02/11/2004 2:46:02 PM PST by Howlin
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To: onyx
Just look at the percentages of votes for Buchanan, Keyes, Browne and that non-entity heading the less-than-visible Constitution Party. All together these voters are less than 5% of the electorate.

They will never elect anyone, not even their mythical generic conservative.

They adore being begged and pleaded with. It makes them feel important. They want a party w/o any former Democrats, gays, Hispanics or blacks. I have read exactly that sentiment on many of posts claiming *principles*.

What is important is the vastly larger constituency for pragmatic & compassioante conservatism. Once, some of us were on the Left. No longer. I think the reason we are not seeing much if any *undecideds* in the polls, is that the former undecideds have decided...........for Bush and the Republicans.

I am heartened by the articles being written that explicate the pragmatics of this election. Most of us get it. Those who don't will bitch, regardless and throw their vote away to non-entities w/out a chance or a clue. It is much more important to appeal to rational voters who have voted Democrat based on having been lied to and accepting it.

GWB is a moderate Republican w/some conservative beliefs. He isn't Barry Goldwater. Heck, today, I wonder if Goldwater would be the Goldwater of 1964. I seem to recall he changed to the left as he aged.

Like Supreme Court Justices, Presidents are changed by their office. Any of the conservatives touted by the unappeasables would have to become a moderate if a miracle happened and they were elected. Otherwise, it is impossible to govern.

GWB has done more to move us toward a pragmatic conservatism than any President in my 61 years. He will not move us towards a dogmatic conservatism and neither would anyone else who, once elected, suddenly had to deal with the domestic and foreign realities of the world as it is.

So, let's just recognize the principles of the unappeasables and move on. We have a President and a Congress to elect and we can do it w/o the 5%.
188 posted on 02/11/2004 2:47:06 PM PST by reformedliberal
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To: Henrietta
What exactly did Gov George W Bush promise you during his campaign that he hasn't done, tried to do or has in the works ? Be specific do not resort to emotions, assumptions and generalities. Why did you vote for him ? You did vote for him in 2000, right ?
189 posted on 02/11/2004 2:51:25 PM PST by Darlin' ("I will not forget this wound to my country." President George W Bush, 20 Sept 2001)
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To: Fawnn
They pretend to be conservatives, but they work to get a democrat elected.

They try to tell us they're more conservative than the rest of us because they want "smaller" government. They pretend to be insulted when we tell them they're throwing the election to the democrats/socialists.

But, for all their talk about being conservative, they will still keep on working to elect a democrat.

Hope they like Hitlery medical care.

Hope they don't come back here whining when they can't get to see a doctor in an emergency.

190 posted on 02/11/2004 2:56:33 PM PST by kitkat
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To: reformedliberal; George W. Bush; billbears; Wolfstar; Henrietta; My2Cents; yall
You have eloquently stated our case. Thank you.

*ping* to a fabulous post #188.
191 posted on 02/11/2004 2:57:51 PM PST by onyx (Your secrets are safe with me and all my friends.)
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To: kitkat
...they will still keep on working to elect a democrat.
Hope they like Hitlery medical care.
Hope they don't come back here whining when they can't get to see a doctor in an emergency.


I pray they don't succeed at the former so that the latter never happens!
192 posted on 02/11/2004 2:59:33 PM PST by Fawnn (Canteen wOOhOO Consultant and CookingWithPam.com person)
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To: Howlin
I just cannot figure out why they're complaining about OUR candidate. If they don't like him, fine; but the RNC IS going to run George W. Bush this year, come hell or highwater.

Exactly! The next president will be either George Bush or a Democrat, probably Kerry. Maybe they should go rag on the Dems for awhile. Would do just about as much good.

They need to spend as much time finding a new party for themselves as they do backbiting on FR.

Now that isn't going to happen. It's too much work to build something. It's easier to tear something down.

193 posted on 02/11/2004 3:00:07 PM PST by Columbine (Bush '04 - Owens '08)
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To: DManA
GWB learned politics from Lee Atwater and has been a political worker all his adult life...and maybe before, as he grew up in campaigns.

No one who worked w/Atwater is a pawn of any operative/strategist. At the most, Rove is W's partner and is responsible for the down-ticket elections: House, Senate, Governors.

GWB does his own strategy. I am convinced of that. He honestly laid out his platform when he campaigned and he has delivered it all, so far, even w/all the dirty tricks, the less than perfect paper majorities and the betrayal of those who perhaps projected too much on to him and didn't pay attention to his platform.

I may not agree w/everything he has done, but I don't agree w/my husband all the time, either.

I am tired of these blame games. Rove. RINOs. NeoCons. GWB is who he is. He has never pretended to be anything else. He is the most consistent politician I have ever observed.

Because of all of that, he is going to win this election. And the unappeaseables can happily go back to their fantasy of a *real conservative*. No one is going to listen to y'all because you are kooks. Only you, yourselves, the media and the Dem operatives think you represent GWBs base. You don't. You didn't. You won't. And these brilliant people in the WH are fully aware of it.

Neither is your default to fringe staus going to 1) elect an internationalist or 2) cause a backlash resulting in your true conservative Messiah being ever elected. It is not going to happen. Not in the real world. Not anywhere. Ever. Get used to it.
194 posted on 02/11/2004 3:00:38 PM PST by reformedliberal
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To: Columbine
Prescisely.
195 posted on 02/11/2004 3:00:51 PM PST by Howlin
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To: onyx
Oh yes, you admitted exactly that. I'll not waste time going back to prove it to you, but only because we both post a lot

Ah, yes unsubstantiated attacks that with a reasonable excuse can't (or won't) be backed up. Well let me make it clear then. Except for a very few issues (our worthless current Republican Senatorial representation being one of them) I hold the values of Senator Helms in high regard. I did disagree with him from time to time however I agreed with him about 80-85% of the time.

Eddycate yourself, then get back to me.

Eddycate? What's wrong? Your statement in post #62 clearly stated the dangers of 'the democrats' allegiance to the UN.' I point out that it's not just the Democrats and you can't refute that. Now you're in the position that you have to defend President Bush's decision to do exactly what you rail against the Democratic Party for, which is 'allegiance to the UN'. Contrary to standard RNC talking points, it's not important who did it, it's that it was done in the first place. Unless you could convince me that joining UNESCO is somehow a conservative action

It would make it much easier if you will merely list the things you approve of in the entire world. I can't think of a thang you're happy about.

Conservative issues. Not just those that pander to us with nice speeches only to give over portions of our national and states' sovereignty in the next breath, but actual conservatives. Know of any?

196 posted on 02/11/2004 3:02:08 PM PST by billbears (Deo Vindice.)
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To: billbears
You have to be a member to have a voice. It was decided that it was better to remain w/in the UN and have influence, than to take our marbles and go home, leaving the UN to its own, unchecked devices, which include colluding against us at every turn.

That is why we have grown-ups in charge.
197 posted on 02/11/2004 3:03:56 PM PST by reformedliberal
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To: reformedliberal
How absolutely horrible of you to actually have the nerve to post a REASONABLE, RATIONAL reason for the United States to remain active in the U.N.
198 posted on 02/11/2004 3:07:41 PM PST by Howlin
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To: billbears
YOU HOO!

Anybody home?

President Bush forcefully stated WE (under his leadership) will never need a permission slip to protect our country.
199 posted on 02/11/2004 3:14:21 PM PST by onyx (Your secrets are safe with me and all my friends.)
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To: Wolfstar
It has not stopped amazing me how morally superior these "real" conservatives are.

And condescending.


Sounds like 4-5 million of those condescending conservatives will be staying home. Keep making them mad,
so a few more stay home. G.W. will have a tough time without them.
The Dems are fighting to win. Bush is trying like hell not to lose.
Big difference.
200 posted on 02/11/2004 3:17:20 PM PST by Bogey
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