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The Confederate battle flag continues to be a symbol of regional pride
freelancestar ^ | 2/10/2004 | BUFFY RIPLEY

Posted on 02/10/2004 6:16:00 AM PST by stainlessbanner

IS THE Confederate battle flag a symbol of hate? Although there are certain connotations that have been improperly associated with the Confederate flag, there are still many people within the American population who display it to show pride in their heritage.

Heritage, not hate.

The Confederate States of America was a compilation of southern states that seceded from the United States of America. Following the formation of this new government, the grievances between the North and South produced hostility and warfare.

Our differences divided us as a nation. Yet during that period, there arose a certain Southern solidarity that people cannot forget.

A liberal federal judge has banned the display of Confederate flags in cemeteries near our area. Could he, not the Southerners who revere the flag, be the prejudiced one?

Only two days out of 365 in a year are people allowed to fly the Confederate battle flag in Point Lookout in Maryland. There have been many appeals, but the judge concluded that it "could" cause hateful uprisings and counter-actions to prevent the flag from flying.

So much for those who died during the Civil War bravely fighting for the South. 3,300 Confederate soldiers died at Point Lookout Cemetery, and the flag would commemorate their lives and their deaths.

Although many people do not understand or agree with what the Confederate States of America stood for, these men gave their lives and had the courage to stand up for what they believed in.

In fact, Confederates fought for the ideals expressed in the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution--states' rights, no taxation without fair representation and freedom from oppressive government.

They weren't fighting for hate. They weren't fighting to destroy a race.

They were fighting to preserve the government that they had chosen--the Confederate States of America--the government that allowed them to preserve their own way of life.

Fact: The overwhelming majority of Southerners never owned slaves. Slavery as an institution was fading, and making way for more pragmatic agricultural practices, including the use of immigrant labor.

Too many people today do not agree with what Southern soldiers stood for, often basing their opinion on faulty history or willful ignorance. That doesn't mean that we should respect the soldiers from Dixie any less.

Ignorance has turned the South's past into a history of hate. I have grown up in the South. I am not racist. I consider myself to be an open-minded person.

I do have Dixie Pride, though.

I grew up in a Civil War town that has a Confederate Cemetery in the middle of it. There's even a store called "Lee's Outpost."

Yes, there are people who live in Fredericksburg who consider the Confederate flag as a symbol of hatred and racism. However, they do not know what it is truly about.

The war between the states was a time when brother fought against brother. It was a time when people didn't have the choice to be passive.

Ultimately, regardless of one's feelings about the flag, banning the Confederate flag is unconstitutional under the Bill of Rights. Flying the flag is considered a form of speech--and if it is legal to burn an American flag, it should be legal without question to fly the Confederate one.

I do own a Confederate flag. I'm a Southerner, proud of my heritage, and I take pride in the fact that my ancestors rose to the occasion and fought for their form of government.

They did not give their lives to protect slavery in the South. They did not die to keep African-Americans from sharing the same liberties and freedoms that they were blessed with. They believed they were fighting for their families, homes and states against an oppressive government in the North.

The book "The South Was Right" provides many facts to support this.

In the end, it almost doesn't matter why they fought. We claim to be a nation that believes in freedom of speech, where everyone can have their own beliefs and not be looked down on for it.

Are we or aren't we?

What makes this country great is that we have the right to make up our own minds about things. People are asked if they believe in freedom of speech. They reply, "Yes, of course I believe in freedom of speech."

Yet when they don't agree with the speech, sometimes they contradict themselves.

As a nation with millions of citizens, we will never agree on any principles or ideas as a whole--except for the fact that freedom cannot be replaced, and rights cannot be sacrificed.

So why should the Confederate flag be an exception? Free speech applies to everyone, and Southerners have great reasons to be proud of their past.

BUFFY RIPLEY is a sophomore at Virginia Commonwealth University.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: buffy; confederate; confederateflag; dixie; dixielist; flag; vcu
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To: CobaltBlue; nolu chan
armistice: n : a state of peace agreed to between opponents so they can discuss peace terms [syn: cease-fire, truce]

Violation of an armistice is an act of war. Cry all you want about Sumter; Lincoln knew of the armistice, Lincoln knew that reinforcement would bring bloodshed, Lincoln ordered reinforcement. He oversaw it personally, and even had to replace personell who refused to cooperate in starting the war.

The Confederates started the Civil War.

The paper trail shows otherwise, which nolu chan has repeatedly documented.

162 posted on 02/11/2004 5:55:34 AM PST by Gianni
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To: CobaltBlue
The South fired upon ships bringing food to Union soldiers.

A documented lie.

163 posted on 02/11/2004 5:56:24 AM PST by Gianni
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To: U S Army EOD
it was about being able to make all the free whiskey you wanted to.

That was Washington, Jackson was nullification.

164 posted on 02/11/2004 5:57:51 AM PST by Gianni
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To: ovrtaxt
So the first amendment is *really* code for the right to be offensive.

No, No, No. It's *really* code for the right to post child porn on billboards near daycare centers. /sarcasm

165 posted on 02/11/2004 6:00:05 AM PST by Gianni
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To: D Rider
As one noted Southern Historian pointed out, The North fought the war with one arm tied behind its back, while the south gave everything it had. This was mostly due to political considerations in the North. The Democrats were against the war (so what is new, huh?) And activly ran against it, as did thier candidate Gen. McCellan (sp?) in 1864.

Don't know who that historian is, but the North was pressed to its limit in carrying the fight. In 1862 the Senate passed the draft...(Provost Marshal Gen. Draper estimated that 100,000 had deserted). The draft eventually led to rioting in New York and Chicago. The North, after the Emancipation Proclamation, began accepting African-Americans in large numbers and by war's end more that 200,000 served (mostly throught the draft). Incidentally, those "Colored Troops" served with great distinction.
If you want an accurate visual picture of how the North was pressed, take a look at President Lincoln's face when he was first elected and then how he looked in 1865. I believe you'll agree he doesn't look as though he had one hand behind his back.

166 posted on 02/11/2004 6:04:41 AM PST by meandog ("Do unto others before they do unto you!")
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To: Non-Sequitur
There were duties on tobacco, cotton, and naval stores.

And once again, you seem to confuse revenue tariffs with protectionist tariffs. There is such a thing as a legitimate revenue tarrif. This is the Yankee playbook: Change the word 'protectionism' to 'tariff' and then rail on how the South accepted tariff's prior to and during the WBTS.

The South left not because of what happened in 1860, but what was to come with the Republican administration:

12. That, while providing revenue for the support of the General Government by duties upon imports, sound policy requires such an adjustment of these imposts as to encourage the development of the industrial interest of the whole country; and we commend that policy of national exchanges which secures to the working men liberal wages, to agriculture renumerative prices, to mechanics and manufactures an adequate reward for their skill, labor, and enterprise, and to the nation commercial prosperity and independence.

15. That appropriations by Congress for River and Harbor improvements of a National character, required for the accommodation and security of an existing commerce, are authorized by the Constitution, and justified by the obligations of Government to protect the lives and property of its citizens.

16. That a Railroad to the Pacific Ocean is imperatively demanded by the interest of the whole country; that the Federal Government ought to render immediate and efficient aid in its construction; and that, as preliminary thereto, a daily Overland Mail should be promply established.

167 posted on 02/11/2004 6:07:14 AM PST by Gianni
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To: Non-Sequitur
The lease on Gitmo is perpetual and can be canceled

Oh boy, now we'll spend 500 posts uncovering the true definition of perpetual! (again)

168 posted on 02/11/2004 6:09:37 AM PST by Gianni
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To: D Rider
Look at the battles listed--they were in the Va. theater of war, not Tennessee, Georgia, S.C. or N.C.....
169 posted on 02/11/2004 6:10:55 AM PST by meandog ("Do unto others before they do unto you!")
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To: hirn_man
I guess I will just have to settle for pointing out that the 13th amendment made slavery illegal in 1865.

Oh don't...you'll just confuse him.

170 posted on 02/11/2004 6:11:06 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: Gianni
Oh boy, now we'll spend 500 posts uncovering the true definition of perpetual! (again)

I must have missed the first discussion. But let's see if we can nip it in the bud. Merriam Webster defines it as "continuing forever...Everlasting...valid for all time." Maybe we can agree on that.

171 posted on 02/11/2004 6:14:13 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: HELLRAISER II
I'm from the North... I understand it... As Jackson said about the Stonewall Bridage (and I think it can spread throughout all the brigades of the Confederate Army) "They are a noble set of men."
172 posted on 02/11/2004 6:20:22 AM PST by carton253 (I have no genius at seeming.)
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To: Gianni
The South left not because of what happened in 1860, but what was to come with the Republican administration...

Both the Democrat Platforms for the Douglas and the Breckenridge factions contained planks calling for a transcontinental railroad. But both platforms also called for the conquest of Cuba, something absent from the Republican platform. Perhaps the southern discontent was with wasn't in the Republican platform rather than what was?

173 posted on 02/11/2004 6:20:24 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur
Possible, but it is surprising then that there was not a meaningful movement within the CSA to do so, no?
174 posted on 02/11/2004 6:25:21 AM PST by Gianni
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To: Gianni
Oh boy, now we'll spend 500 posts uncovering the true definition of perpetual! (again)

Seven - 7 - years. That's how long the Articles of Confederation & Perpetual Union lasted.

175 posted on 02/11/2004 6:38:37 AM PST by 4CJ (||) Support free speech and stop CFR - visit www.ArmorforCongress.com (||)
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To: 4ConservativeJustices
Seven - 7 - years.

Perhaps Webster had incentive to define it differently?

PERPETUAL. That which is to last without limitation as to time; as, a perpetual statute, which is one without limit as to time, although not expressed to be so.

Sounds to me more like "unspecified" than "neverending."

176 posted on 02/11/2004 6:48:23 AM PST by Gianni
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To: D Rider
looks like 1st Tn saw a lot of fighting.
177 posted on 02/11/2004 6:49:50 AM PST by OldCorps
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To: stainlessbanner; U S Army EOD
Yep, if I were to intentionally misrepresent your words or ascribe to them meaning that is not there in an effort to prove my argument it would be dishonest. It happens here all the time, even to the extent of one poster actually saying..."I formed my opinion more from what you did not say than from what you did". If you think that kind of nonsense is worthy of respect or response and is honest then we have a basic disagreement about intellectual integrity.
178 posted on 02/11/2004 6:54:08 AM PST by wtc911 (Who are you gonna believe, me or your own eyes?)
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To: CobaltBlue
"What does northern racism have to do with the Confederate flag?"

Absolutely nothing. It exists in the abscense of the stars/bars, meaning, your comment equating the flag to racisim is BS.
179 posted on 02/11/2004 6:58:14 AM PST by Rebelbase (The Gravy Train makes unscheduled stops.)
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To: Gianni
The law disdains "perpetual" items.
180 posted on 02/11/2004 7:08:36 AM PST by 4CJ (||) Support free speech and stop CFR - visit www.ArmorforCongress.com (||)
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