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Vanity | Feb. 11, 2004 | Nix Two

Posted on 02/07/2004 4:31:25 PM PST by Nix 2

Gotta tell you something, people. Other than listening to the demons wail about the deficit, what difference has it made in any of your lives? None. Interest rates have not gone up. The Medicare reform bill has the rats climbing the wall because it is the first step towards its OWN slow death. Even G-d kept the Jews wandering in the wilderness until the whole generations of them that knew slavery were dead. So now, seniors have a prescription program and younger workers will have private health accounts. It took the dems a gazillion years to try to make everyone in the USA a slave to government and take over US healthcare bit by bit. This year it would have been fully government run if Gore had made it to Pennsylvania Avenue. Bush is unraveling their dream of the world under Marx.

Are you watching the teachers' union howling at the moon? They can't teach, so they blame the kids for not being able to learn. Bush gave them their chance. They are blowing it big-time. The more they try and steal our kids, the harder we fight, and the more they scream. But it will have its end and it will be under a Bush presidency. We need good minds to have better goals. No one knows that better than he does. The dems are freaking out over *No Child Left behind* because if a teacher can't teach, he/she has got to go. The dems would protect these stupid, moneygrubbers at any cost including the cost of your children's education.

Privatization of ALL healthcare is paramount if we are to maintain the best healthcare system in the world. The dems have run doctors out of practice, turned insurance companies into beancounters, claimed that pharmaceutical companies, which have given us virtually many more years to live, vile, filthy creatures who stalk the weak and the poor. Now, the first step back towards freedom is being looked at and whined about as if you so-called conservatives were personally wounded and the bleeding will never stop. The truly wounded are the democrats who see their phoney, dark, delusional world exposed to the unforgiving light of the truth. They are losing...but will you give credit? This is too pathetic. Do you let others do your thinking now?

What exactly about the immigration reform has you so riled up? You are jumping to so many bogus conclusions, I don't even know where to start. You call it amnesty, and I ask you WHEREIN lies the amnesty? Is it not a fact that no illegal will be able to get a job unless Americans expressly turn it down? And is it not further fact that Americans will receive better training for BETTER jobs because SOMEBODY believes that we have better brains and can learn better skills to come up with better ideas, instead of having the sugah-daddy dems giving everyone handouts and more unemployment compensation so they WOULDN'T go back to work. Don't you realize that only prolonged the recovery, not helped it, or me, or you? Do you realize that maybe, just maybe, some of the jobs illegals take right now will henceforth be open to our American teenagers who lost them to 40 and 50 year old illegals flipping burgers, training jobs, entry level jobs, jobs that taught our kids what it meant to have a work ethic and some responsibilty so they can stop expecting us to spoil them half to death. If they want a $150.00 pair of silly shoes, let them but them themselves. If they want a car, a little hard work never hurt anyone. Or has it truly escaped you that Americans First means young Americans as well? THIS takes a generation as well but like liberals everywhere, yesterday seems to be much too late. Well, where were you when all these things were building up? I asked someone a few years ago, right here on this board. He said "Sure, I think about it, but...I have a family and can't afford to do the right thing.

Now, Bush does the right thing, depriving no one of anything, and the crocodile tears are starting to make Conservatives look more and more like the libs with their hands constantly extended.

Are you stopping in your misplaced anger at President Bush to realize that terrorists damaged us in an excruciating way, but if Gore, or any of his ilk would have been president, they would have seized on that moment to finalize their control over us in ways that should make you thank the Lord for Bush. Gun control would be a gun ban period. We would probably be under martial law, our government would be gone, and our soldiers would be patroling OUR streets while Bin Laden was enjoying French hospitality. The Islamist State Department would be busily going about installing some form of sharia law by now. Do you want to be Canada? Then go the hell there and stop calling yourselves conservatives, because you ain't.

If you were truly conservatives, you would be stopping to think about the freedom you DIDN'T lose. We are at war. They aren't here, WE are there. You would realize that fully one fourth of the US was on fire almost at the same time. We've had megafloods. The Clinton Administration cooked the Stockmarket books to give the illusion of prosperity. Bush has unraveled the tangled yarn and then some. Do you think that was cheap? Do you realize that President Bush rolled back many of the insane enviroweenie laws that caused all that, and because of it, logging can happen again. Oil drilling can begin again. Care will be taken to stop the kind of corrupt and corrupted opposing environmental laws that did nothing to help the environment, but it sure helped to line the pockets of the UN believers of the world and their science of unreality and fishy fantasy.

Are you so nonsatisfiable that you don't realize that the man from Texas stood and faced down the UN so that they can't even get a paragraph ratified because he has them running in circles and has not much to do with the terrorists and crooks who run the damb place.

We have a good man as President. He will be even better with a bigger majority in the House and Senate. Anyone else who is, or might run, will NEVER be able to accomplish what Bush has already accomplished, and he isn't done yet...and there is NO SUCH THING as instant gratification. All that leads to his horrors down the road...like Medicare was before this reform.



TOPICS: Editorial; Government; Miscellaneous; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: deficit; democrats; fauxconservative; fuzzylogic; illegals; jobs; kyoto; medicare; navelinthinker; pathetic
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To: Miss Marple; Lazamataz
Life is good. ;-)


201 posted on 02/07/2004 7:51:29 PM PST by sauropod (I'm Happy, You're Happy, We're ALL Happy!)
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To: EternalVigilance
Maybe this will help. There are principled conservatives, and there are "principled" conservatives. I am addressing the latter, who find nothing positive with the president, no matter what.

As Nix expected, he was immediately attacked by the anti-Bush contingent, who cloak their hatred of the man in "principles."

You know as well as I that there are certain people on this forum who dislike Bush so much that if he were to abolish the income tax tomorrow they would find fault. Those are the people I am talking about.

202 posted on 02/07/2004 7:52:00 PM PST by Miss Marple
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To: kitkat
In the FR poll, 81% say they will vote for Bush.

We just have a very loud 19% here, who figure that by yelling loud enough, it will appear there are more of them.

Also notice, that there are 25 people here who voted for Kerry in the poll. NO conservative would ever vote for Kerry. I bet they aren't telling us in their posts that they are Democrats pretending to be conservatives. In other words, I do think, that some of those who are pretending to be rabid conservatives, are actually Democrat plants, "agent provocateurs" -- a well known and frequently used technique of the communists.

And then I suppose we do have some, who really think of themselves as conservatives, being "useful idiots" for the Democrats, allowing themselves to be used by them, to try to prevent Bush's reelection.
203 posted on 02/07/2004 7:52:26 PM PST by FairOpinion (If you are not voting for Bush, you are voting for the terrorists.)
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To: EternalVigilance
I have seen *conservatives* on this board literally threatening to blackmail Bush by threatening to withold their votes if HE doesn't do what THEY want him to. Well, he has done MANY right things and I've not seen an ounce of due respect for the man. He deserves it.
EV, you know darn well he has turned the tide of Socialism in this country. They are spilling out of the rafters like termites. Ted Kennedy has puffed up so much, he has come close to actually exploding a few times. (I'm waiting for that one.)
He has intimidated the UN into darn near silence. Al Quaeda squeaks, but it does not roar like it did when Clinton was in office. When does our PRESIDENT get some credit from the folks who claim to want the best for this country?

His Justice department has taken up OUR interpretation of the Second Amendment for the first time in over a hundred years.
He has gone over Clinton's Executive orders with a fine tooth comb and repealed and repealed. Justice demands fairness. I haven't seen Bush get any from almost anyone.
Surprise of surprises, Neil Boortz, who I would have expected to be a lot more down on the deficit than any of you, actually said that it is a red herring issue.
The UN can't manipulate him, but any dem who got into office would be prime for them, red meat.
Bush went to England and charmed the Brits who were there to hate him.

What DO you want from him?
Now, if anybody, and I mean anybody, has really legitimate grievance against Bush, I certainly haven't seen it. All I've seen are liberal lies repeated in conservative rhetoric, and I wonder why that is? Why can't you see down the road instead of just on the corner where you stand? He has put into place long term programs. This is called Vision. Ronald Reagan had it. Bush has it. When does he get his kudos?
204 posted on 02/07/2004 7:53:03 PM PST by Nix 2 (http://www.warroom.com QUINN AND ROSE from 6-10 AM-104.7 FM in da Burgh&WWVA AM)
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To: nopardons
If you make some of these anti-Bush elements suffer, Please, please post more. ;)
205 posted on 02/07/2004 7:53:55 PM PST by FairOpinion (If you are not voting for Bush, you are voting for the terrorists.)
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To: Miss Marple
Okay, I can accept that.

But can you acknowledge that the lack of distinction or proportion in many of the slams against 'principled conservatives' really gets on the nerves of many very committed conservative Republicans?
206 posted on 02/07/2004 7:54:04 PM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: .30Carbine
Yes, this thread is the epitome of the Pro-Bush stance on FR

Certainly beats the crap out of stupid "we love gridlock" posts and posters.

207 posted on 02/07/2004 7:55:23 PM PST by gatorbait (Yesterday, today and tomorrow......The United States Army)
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To: Miss Marple
You are right. True principled conservatives, like Alan Keyes, are supporting Bush.

Alan Keyes comes out in support of President Bush, denounces Democrats, "our survival is at stake!"

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1071872/posts

"KEYES: Oh, I sure do--and I wouldn't want to give the impression that I don't have other problems with this administration on some areas where I think that the president has fallen short of the kinds of things that I really think are needed in some areas.

But I also wouldn't want to give the impression that I think that anything can be more decisive for the American people right now than the question of our national survival in the face of the most insidious threat this nation has ever faced.

In the face of that, I think a lot of us are going to be putting our other issues behind those issues that have to do with the survival of this nation in wartime."

208 posted on 02/07/2004 7:56:40 PM PST by FairOpinion (If you are not voting for Bush, you are voting for the terrorists.)
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To: EternalVigilance
And I'm tired of idiots who think they're helping the President by pissing off thousands of conservatives.

Believe me, if I knew you were helping, I'd be the first one to tell you.

209 posted on 02/07/2004 7:57:08 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper (All Our Base Are Belong To Dubya)
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To: Nix 2
I have seen *conservatives* on this board literally threatening to blackmail Bush by threatening to withold their votes if HE doesn't do what THEY want him to.

It's not 'blackmail'. It is sovereign citizens of the United States exercising their franchise the way they see fit. If they don't want to vote for him, they won't...and all the insults you can throw at them are not likely to make them change their minds. Quite the contrary.

You can make all the wonderful points you want about all of the wonderful things the President has accomplished, and they get lost in the clutter of your bad attitude.

210 posted on 02/07/2004 7:57:19 PM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: BigSkyFreeper
Believe me, if I knew you were helping, I'd be the first one to tell you.

Whatever that means.

211 posted on 02/07/2004 7:58:36 PM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: gatorbait
Certainly beats the crap out of stupid "we love gridlock" posts and posters.

It exceeds their righteousness by miles!

212 posted on 02/07/2004 7:58:41 PM PST by .30Carbine (And it's a righteous Pro-Bush argument if I ever heard one!)
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To: Nix 2
More, More, MORE! :) The ground is shaking and Kerry's wondering where that damn earthquake is coming from!
213 posted on 02/07/2004 7:59:24 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper (All Our Base Are Belong To Dubya)
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To: EternalVigilance
Well, we probably should knock off using that term, although it derives from the Bush-bashers constantly telling us that they are principled and we are not.

In response to your objection, I will start calling them "my way or the highway" types.

214 posted on 02/07/2004 8:00:04 PM PST by Miss Marple
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To: EternalVigilance
"many very committed conservative Republicans?"

===

"Committed conservative Republicans" don't agitate against Bush.

Those who agitate against Bush, trying to get others to NOT vote for Bush are NOT conservative Republicans.

I hope that helps with the definitions.
215 posted on 02/07/2004 8:00:15 PM PST by FairOpinion (If you are not voting for Bush, you are voting for the terrorists.)
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To: nopardons
"You'll have to " suffer ", until you ignore my posts or leave."

Poor dear. It's a shame you're so overwrought...

There ya go.

216 posted on 02/07/2004 8:00:24 PM PST by sauropod (I'm Happy, You're Happy, We're ALL Happy!)
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To: sauropod; Miss Marple
I, too, really love George Bush.


217 posted on 02/07/2004 8:00:27 PM PST by Lazamataz (I know exactly what opinion I am permitted to have, and I am zealous -- nay, vociferous -- in it!!!)
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To: Nix 2
Good post Nix. It beats the hell out of the influx of Bircher articles lately.
218 posted on 02/07/2004 8:00:35 PM PST by Texasforever
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To: dubyaismypresident
Okay, let's hold hands and sing Kumbayah, allowing the bashers and nay sayers to just take over FR; shall we?A lot of lurkers are afraid to say what I do and are happy that I do talk back!But you think that we should just allow others to say anything, with no refutation.

The Mods and Jim do a good job, but they are swamped. They can't be everywhere and they miss a lot.

Jim has posted, many times recently, that those who support third parties and want President Bush to lose,won't be tolerated here.Some here have ignored his posts.Some have been banned, some have quit, and some are begging to be banned.

219 posted on 02/07/2004 8:02:21 PM PST by nopardons
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To: TheWriterInTexas
Pay off the debt now, so that you aren't throwing thousands of dollars away in interest

In saying that, are you not ignoring the time value of money in your own life? To call paying interest "throwing money away" implies that you do not know of a way to deploy money in ways that add value. Therefore you would not pay anything to have it today, as opposed to five years from now.

The concept of interest exists because hardly anyone shares your preference curve in this regard. Most people place a higher value on a dollar today than they do on a dollar five years away. The market rate of interest is a measure of how much more value people place on 'money now' vs 'money then.'

220 posted on 02/07/2004 8:03:14 PM PST by Nick Danger (clank furry quad barbecue)
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