Al Qaeda again threatens America (Thread 3) Daily Terror Threat

World Tribune ^ | Thursday, February 5, 2004

[Mossad1967]

SANAA, Yemen, Jan. 24 (UPI) -- A purported statement by al-Qaida in Yemen warned Saturday of a "major strike" soon in the United States.

The statement, distributed by the Yemeni Tagamoo Party for Reforms, said: "A major strike, a big event will take place in America soon," reminiscent of the Sept. 11 attacks.

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Previous threads

[jerseygirl]

Last night there were numerous helicopters overflying Philly- to the point that some of us who had come out of a store together remarked about their frequency and wondered what was going on. At one point 6 helicopters ( at the same time) flew south- and what was strange was that they were flying in a horizonal line .

[jstolzen]

BERLIN (Reuters) - Al Qaeda is under pressure to strike another "high-value" Western target and may be looking at attacking chemical plants or shooting down planes with surface-to-air missiles, a top German intelligence official said Tuesday.

OK..if AQ has nukes, why bother with something so "mundane" as a chem plant or SAM attack on an airliner?

Conclusion: they do not have nukes.

BTW, FairOpinion..love the tagline!

[jerseygirl]

They said (re pilots deceased from methanol)- that they were trying to determine if the pilots had ingested the substance willingly, or under threat.

[Poohbah]

Ping yourself...whazzup?

[eastforker]

AQ does not care if they have anything to gain as long as we have everything to lose.

[FairOpinion]

You have to understand the terrorist mindset -- they are perfectly happy to send the world back to the stone ages. That is where their religion is comfortable.

I think you are way underestimating the dead, if nukes go off in major cities. Millions would die in just one major city.

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Top 50 Cities in the U.S. by Population and Rank

	4/1/2000 census population	4/1/1990 census population	Numeric population change 1990–2000	Percent population change 1990–2000	Size rank 1990	Size rank 2000
New York, N.Y.	8,008,278	7,322,564	685,714	9.4	1	1
Los Angeles, Calif.	3,694,820	3,485,398	209,422	6.0	2	2
Chicago, Ill.	2,896,016	2,783,726	112,290	4.0	3	3
Houston, Tex.	1,953,631	1,630,553	323,078	19.8	4	4
Philadelphia, Pa.	1,517,550	1,585,577	–68,027	–4.3	5	5
Phoenix, Ariz.	1,321,045	983,403	337,642	34.3	10	6
San Diego, Calif.	1,223,400	1,110,549	112,851	10.2	6	7
Dallas, Tex.	1,188,580	1,006,877	181,703	18.0	8	8
San Antonio, Tex.	1,144,646	935,933	208,713	22.3	9	9
Detroit, Mich.	951,270	1,027,974	–76,704	–7.5	7	10
San Jose, Calif.	894,943	782,248	112,695	14.4	11	11
Indianapolis, Ind.	791,926	741,952	49,974	6.7	13	12
San Francisco, Calif.	776,733	723,959	52,774	7.3	14	13
Jacksonville, Fla.	735,617	635,230	100,387	15.8	15	14
Columbus, Ohio	711,470	632,910	78,560	12.4	16	15
Austin, Tex.	656,562	465,622	190,940	41.0	25	16
Baltimore, Md.	651,154	736,014	–84,860	–11.5	12	17
Memphis, Tenn.	650,100	610,337	39,763	6.5	18	18
Milwaukee, Wis.	596,974	628,088	–31,114	–5.0	17	19
Boston, Mass.	589,141	574,283	14,858	2.6	20	20
Washington, DC	572,059	606,900	–34,841	–5.7	19	21
Nashville-Davidson, Tenn.1	569,891	510,784	59,107	11.6	26	22
El Paso, Tex.	563,662	515,342	48,320	9.4	22	23
Seattle, Wash.	563,374	516,259	47,115	9.1	21	24
Denver, Colo.	554,636	467,610	87,026	18.6	28	25
Charlotte, N.C.	540,828	395,934	144,894	36.6	33	26
Fort Worth, Tex.	534,694	447,619	87,075	19.5	29	27
Portland, Ore.	529,121	437,319	91,802	21.0	27	28
Oklahoma City, Okla.	506,132	444,719	61,413	13.8	30	29
Tucson, Ariz.	486,699	405,390	81,309	20.1	34	30
New Orleans, La.	484,674	496,938	–12,264	–2.5	24	31
Las Vegas, Nev.	478,434	258,295	220,139	85.2	63	32
Cleveland, Ohio	478,403	505,616	–27,213	–5.4	23	33
Long Beach, Calif.	461,522	429,433	32,089	7.5	32	34
Albuquerque, N.M.	448,607	384,736	63,871	16.6	40	35
Kansas City, Mo.	441,545	435,146	6,399	1.5	31	36
Fresno, Calif.	427,652	354,202	73,450	20.7	48	37
Virginia Beach, Va.	425,257	393,069	32,188	8.2	39	38
Atlanta, Ga.	416,474	394,017	22,457	5.7	38	39
Sacramento, Calif.	407,018	369,365	37,653	10.2	37	40
Oakland, Calif.	399,484	372,242	27,242	7.3	35	41
Mesa, Ariz.	396,375	288,091	108,284	37.6	53	42
Tulsa, Okla.	393,049	367,302	25,747	7.0	44	43
Omaha, Neb.	390,007	335,795	54,212	16.1	47	44
Minneapolis, Minn.	382,618	368,383	14,235	3.9	43	45
Honolulu CDP,2 Hawaii	371,657	365,272	6,385	1.7	41	46
Miami, Fla.	362,470	358,548	3,922	1.1	46	47
Colorado Springs, Colo.	360,890	281,140	79,750	28.4	54	48
St. Louis, Mo.	348,189	396,685	–48,496	–12.2	42	49
Wichita, Kans.	344,284	304,011	40,273	13.2	51	50

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[swarthyguy]

benazir has an outstanding warrant for her arrest, politically motivated, no doubt, by Mush's govt, but doesn't mean she didn't, along with her husband, Mr. 10Percent, as he was known, amass a huge fortune.

She was defeated by Nawaz Sharif who was overthrown by Mush.

Under her tutelage, she was powerless to confront the jihadi military mullah complex, and in order to stay in power, looked the other way while Khan was upto his tricks, and allowed the taliban to be set up in Afghanistan since she was powerless to confront the military or the ISI.

She talks good with all the right buzzwords for a western audience, giddy with the prospect of an muslim woman who can talk their talk, but was totally ineffectual and corrupt as a leader. She remains a darling of the media and women's groups in the west.

Howzat?

[swarthyguy]

Doubt you'd have to convince a couple of Ukrainian pilots too much to have a drink if they're stuck in country for a day or two.

Should've brought their own.

[Indie]

Doesn't seem like so hot of a plan to me.

This is just my opinion. I believe they have the nukes. I believe they will go boom. I believe the wait is to allow Bush to be defeated by a marxist morally weak Kerry/ THEN they go boom and watch Kerry run around like a chicken with his head cut off saying "what do we do! what do we do!"

They know he'll fold up like a deck of cards and probably won't retaliate at all. THAT is why nothing has gone BOOM yet IMO. Comments>?

[FairOpinion]

Answer is "escalation". AQ still has state sponsorship. My guess is that those states are telling AQ, that if they detonate nukes, they themselves will obliterate them, because they know that the US won't sit by.

(P.S. my tagline is truer, than most people are willing to believe)

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2002/3/10/111302.shtml

Lunev Advised Bush on Drawing Up Nuclear Plans

Christopher Ruddy
Monday, March 11, 2002

The recent "leak" of a classified Pentagon report that the U.S. military recently has drawn up plans to use nuclear weapons against seven nations was no accident.
The Pentagon report identifies China, Russia, Iraq, North Korea, Iran, Libya and Syria as nuclear targets, and directs military planners to begin preparing nuclear strike plans in case of a nuclear, biological or chemical weapons attack on the U.S. or "in the event of surprising military developments."

U.S. officials were quick to confirm the report, which no doubt sent a serious signal to rogue states about what will happen if the U.S. is hit with a nuclear device.

This "news" of the nuclear war plans should not be surprising to NewsMax readers.

President Bush and the Pentagon are only following the advice given to them by NewsMax columnist and Russian defector Col. Stanislav Lunev.

On Sept. 24, Col. Lunev's column headlined: Bush Must Warn Rogue States of Nuclear Retaliation.

Lunev, the highest-ranking military spy ever to defect from Russia, warned the White House that the terrorist threat would not abate: "These groups clearly have received sufficient funds, supplies, support and hospitality from rogue nations – all of whom have close ties to Russia's military and intelligence agencies."

Lunev continued ominously: "... we are in a full-blown war, the stakes are high for each side. No one can rule out that these terrorists may have biological, chemical and nuclear weapons. No one can rule out their use. International terrorism currently has enough power to challenge the West and, using weapons of mass destruction, perhaps hit us with a devastating blow."

Col. Lunev also said, "The planning, network and resources involved in the operation of Sept. 11 suggests to me that one or more countries were behind this, and also that Russian intelligence agencies were likely aware of the possibility of these attacks."

Lunev argued that the Sept. 11 attack was simply a precursor to a much larger attack.

The terrorists and their backers are clever propagandists and realized that a mass destruction attack against the U.S. would rouse Muslim and world opinion in the U.S.'s favor.

The terrorists, Lunev thinks, "realized America would retaliate."

Only in the aftermath of U.S. retaliation, which the world has since witnessed in Afghanistan, Lunev wrote that "we must worry about the next attack, which may be an escalation in scope and severity over the ones of Sept. 11."

Lunev then gave advice that has now been heeded by the Bush administration: "My suggestion is that the U.S. must warn rogue states, i.e., Iraq, Iran, Syria and Libya, that if these groups use a weapon of mass destruction on an American city, the U.S. military will not do any investigations, there will be no delay – the U.S. will use similar weapons on their population centers and military targets."

On Oct. 16, just over a month after Sept. 11, Lunev worried again about a nuclear attack, in an urgent memo to President Bush, which was published on NewsMax.com (see: Memo to Bush: A Plan to Prevent Weapons of Mass Destruction).

Lunev candidly informed President Bush: "Right now, there is no way to assure America that such weapons [of mass destruction] will not be used. We must be honest and admit that time may already have run out.

"The terrorists have had a huge time advantage over us. They had almost the whole past 10 years to move without sanction from the U.S. government. For all practical purposes, these terrorists may have already deployed weapons of mass destruction here."

It should be remembered that it was Lunev who, as a GRU defector, first told the CIA that Russia had already deployed suitcase nuclear bombs inside the U.S.

In the wake of the al-Qaeda attacks, Lunev was justifiably troubled that other rogue operators, such as Iraq and North Korea, would use the opportunity to detonate a nuclear device in America – with the hope that it would be conveniently blamed on bin Laden.

"Already, I have encouraged you to warn all backers of al-Qaeda, including any and all backers of terrorist groups and nations, including Iraq, Iran, Syria and others, that the use of weapons of mass destruction on American soil will cause the U.S. to use such weapons against any and all backers of these terrorists.”

Lunev added, in his Oct. 16 memo, "You should tell them the U.S. will retaliate without investigation and go after 'likely suspects.' "

Lunev then advised the president on a critical tactical maneuver: He should not simply warn rogue nations of a potential nuclear retaliation, he must draw up plans to do so.

Lunev wrote, "You should not just warn rogue nations, you must have your Pentagon begin to prepare to use such weapons against these nations.

"If you do, the many spies in the U.S. government will report back to rogue nations that you are serious and if a weapon of mass destruction is used against America, you will respond with fury. Then no one will be safe.

"I can assure you that this will be unsettling to America's enemies."

[jstolzen]

I was worried about the same things (supposed letters, apologies, etc).

Yet, nothing has gone "kerplooey" yet. And, they stated that it WOULD. DEFINITELY. BY 2/2.

When I was a young lad, the story of the Little Boy That Cried Wolf really stuck with me for some reason. This seems just like that, and every threat they make with no vaporized cities adds to the ridiculousness of it all.

Now, we hear that the flight cancellation stuff was "disinfo" and not the "real" attack. And, just a few minutes ago, the German source saying that they are under pressure to attack airliners with SAMs or blow up chem plants. IF they had nukes (I don't believe they do), why would they limit themselves to something so "ordinary"?

So, either we stopped the big, humongous nuke attack and made no noise about it (possible), or the "we will kill you ALL! NOW!" is just more Baghdad-Bob style Arab braggadacio.

To my thinking, it is all BS and no more than "jihad by the keyboard". That leaves Sean's sources, which could be "leaking" this info for any number of reasons, the possible motives of which are infinite.

[jerseygirl]

I wish I shared your optimism. I tend to think that the possibility seems so unthinkable, that even intelligence agencies mention the threats that seem conceivable and write the others info off as preposterous. (But I would like to know what is being said on the secure phone lines.)

[eastforker]

I think they are waiting to make a coordinated attack, not just here but in GB and other countries as well. They are hell bent on starting WWIII.

[jerseygirl]

Ha ha! Did you ever drink beer with people from the Czech Republic?

[Indie]

Yep..no argument here. I'm just trying to decide when to bug out.

[swarthyguy]

NO, but I grew up watching my dad's German friends knock off lots of bottles.

And was happy to have beer for breakfast in Europe. And New Orleans.

[jerseygirl]

Bump.

[Oorang]

You are correct FO. Guess I was just getting frustrated with more and more terrorist camps popping up. I would not want to be in Musharraf's shoe's. He probably doesn't want to be in them right about now either. There is (from what I have read) quite a bit of lawless territory where the wacko's run rampant.

[milkncookies]

But Putin has no competition. He has like 80% of the votes locked.

[Oorang]

Howzat? Most excellent. The various bio's I read did paint her in a rather glowing light. I appreciated your insight as I don't trust the media.