Posted on 01/31/2004 4:08:48 PM PST by nwrep
Edited on 04/13/2004 2:45:40 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]
Wesley Clark pledged Saturday to "get our balance right" by stemming illegal immigration while allowing immigrants to earn citizenship over time.
Appearing in this military community near the border with Mexico, the retired general said, "We are going to control our borders, going to work with the government of Mexico to stem what's going on down there because we have to."
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Psst...Hey, Wesley Crusher, all those things were SUCCESSES! Why should someone NOT continue them?
No matter, Mr. Crusher and the rest of the dwarves will quit in due course, except for whichever Southerner Liveshot Kerry picks for his running mate.
Psst...Hey, Wesley Crusher, all those things were SUCCESSES! Why should someone NOT continue them?
No matter, Mr. Crusher and the rest of the dwarves will quit in due course, except for whichever Southerner Liveshot Kerry picks for his running mate.
Holy Monkey Foo!
What does it take to get these dooferbrained lefties to understand this concept? What? Someone tell me....what will it take?....... The wealthier get more of a cut in terms of dollars, because our system is based on percentages, AND THEY PAY A HIGHER PERCENTAGE.......
Grrrrrg#$#%% $ @#$@^^& %%&&*%$$#!
Increasing the support overseas has a much larger effect on protecting our borders to would be disrupter's of our freedoms than lining our borders hand to hand with troops. Unless of course money is no object, then we could build a dome over our 48 with doors that are guarded to allow only the welcome.
Part of Dubya's job is maintaining a realistic mindset and being sensible also.
And the money could easily come from the savings from pulling out of Bosnia, which is nothing but an unproductive drain on our resources.
Yes, however the war on terror has been effectively contained in the ME so far. (fingers crossed)Let alone the spur to the economy by tax cuts which were vital to maintain a decent market in these times of peril.
1 to 3 billion isn't a drop in the bucket to anyones standards and once the "illegals" find a way around the human barrier (which they would) how much would it cost then?
IMHO, the issue should be focused strategically around Fox, and we could spend much less money by diverting the cost to Mexico's economy by forcing Fox to bear most of the brunt of responsibility in our border issues.
Nothing's going to keep them out completely, but the more patrollers there are, the more illegals that will be caught, and more importantly, the more likely we'll catch someone who presents a risk to our security. And 3 dollars per person in the USA per year isn't really that huge of a price to pay for that.
IMHO, the issue should be focused strategically around Fox, and we could spend much less money by diverting the cost to Mexico's economy by forcing Fox to bear most of the brunt of responsibility in our border issues.
Sure, there are a number of ways to raise that amount of money. I suggested Bosnia, but cutting aid to Mexico works for me as well.
Financial arm twisting, as a primary focus, really isn't what I was referring to, however it could be an integral part of the overall strategy if needed.
The problem is generated in Mexico and focusing on the generation of the problem instead of reacting to it, in a proactive fashion, before it becomes a US border issue is what I was trying to convey.
He can begin with Chicago. Following Mexico City, D.F. and Buenos Aires, Argentina, it has the largest number of Spanish-speaking residents, of whom a sizable proportion are illegal aliens.
Wouldn't a Dean-Ralph Nader coalition be an interesting development....
Planned and authorized during the Bush I administration, BTW, with the request for military assistance from Ft. Hood coming from the office of then Texas governor Ann Richards.
My Weimaraner reacted to snow similarly. Icicles, however, she regarded as water bones.
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Bush I had nothing to do with it. HE LOST TO CLINTON, remember?
Clinton didn't take office until 20 January, 1993. The Waco Branch Davidian investigation and raid planning began long before that, though interestingly, former Clinton bodyguard and Little Rock ATF Special Agent in Charge Bill Buford was very much involved in the investigation from its earliest stages.
Daqvid Koresh had tangled with the BATF before and had developed extensive background files on BATF activities, including the presence of BATF [then known as ATTU] agents at the Texas Schoolbook Depository in Dallas on 22 November 1963, and the use of BATF agents and informants relating to thefts of weapons from Arkansas fireartms dealers, with possible ties to weapons smuggling from the Mena Arkansas airport, neatly covered up by Arkansas US Attorney Asa Hutchinson. And we certainly have yet to see any Bush administration investigation into FBI or BATF misconduct and criminality at Waco, do we? inescapable conclusion is that the Bush family is as much in business with the Democrats- or some of them- as it is in competition.
The Soldiers--How Many, and Who?
A number of US military combat veterans were involved in planning the raid. Of these, we have a few names: William Buford, an Army Special Forces combat veteran, Jerry Petrilli, a Marine Corps combat veteran, and Kenny King, also a Marine Corps combat veteran Treasury Report, pg. 37).
As early as July, 1992 during the Republican Administration of George Bush, BATF agents were receiving secret training for the raid. "Dallas Morning News, March 1, 1993". The site of the training and the identity of the trainers is not revealed.
In mid-February, 1993, Special Forces personnel from Ft. Bragg in NC came to Ft. Hood Texas to train the BATF agents on the Military Operations Urban Training Facility (MOUT) at Ft. Hood (Treasury Report, pg. 73). (See the description of MOUT training in The Los Angeles Times, July 11, 1995).
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