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Who says George W. Bush has done "nothing" for conservatives?
WhiteHouse.gov; various news sources ^ | 1/27/04

Posted on 01/27/2004 7:03:00 AM PST by Wolfstar

[ED. NOTE: In the last few months, FReeper Southack put together a list of Bush administration achievements over its first three years in office, and tirelessly posted it whenever an opportunity presented itself. Southack gave me permission to take that list, organize it by topics, and enhance it with further research from whitehouse.gov and other sources. This thread is posted in gratitude to and in honor of Southack.]

Abortion & Traditional Values

  1. Banned Partial Birth Abortion — by far the most significant roll-back of abortion on demand since Roe v. Wade.
  2. Reversed Clinton's move to strike Reagan's anti-abortion Mexico Policy.
  3. By Executive Order (EO), reversed Clinton's policy of not requiring parental consent for abortions under the Medical Privacy Act.
  4. By EO, prohibited federal funds for international family planning groups that provide abortions and related services.
  5. Upheld the ban on abortions at military hospitals.
  6. Made $33 million available for abstinence education programs in 2004.
  7. Supports the Defense of Marriage Act — and a Constitutional amendment saying marriage is between one man and one woman.
  8. Requires states to conduct criminal background checks on prospective foster and adoptive parents.
  9. Requires districts to let students transfer out of dangerous schools.
  10. Requires schools to have a zero-tolerance policy for classroom disruption (reintroducing discipline into classrooms).
  11. Signed the Teacher Protection Act, which protects teachers from lawsuits related to student discipline.
  12. Expanded the role of faith-based and community organizations in after-school programs.

Budget, Taxes & Economy

  1. Signed two income tax cuts, one of which was the largest dollar-value tax cut in world history.
  2. Supports permanent elimination of the death tax.
  3. Turned around an inherited economy that was in recession, and deeply shocked as a result of the 9/11 attacks.
  4. Is seeking legislation to amend the Constitution to give the president line-item veto authority.
  5. In process of permanently eliminating IRS marriage penalty.
  6. Increased small business incentives to expand and to hire new people.
  7. Initiated discussion on privatizing Social Security and individual investment accounts.
  8. Killed Clinton's "ergonomic" rules that OSHA was about to implement; rules would have shut down every home business in America.
  9. Passed tough new laws to hold corporate criminals to account as a result of corporate scandals.
  10. Reduced taxes on dividends and capital gains.
  11. Signed trade promotion authority.
  12. Reduced and is working to ultimately eliminate the estate tax for family farms and ranches.
  13. Fight Europe's ban on importing biotech crops from the United States.
  14. Exempt food from unilateral trade sanctions and embargoes.
  15. Provided $20 million to states to help people with disabilities work from home.
  16. Created a fund to encourage technologies that help the disabled.
  17. Increased the annual contribution limit on Education IRA's from $500 to $2,000 per child.
  18. Make permanent the $5,000 adoption tax credit and provide $1 billion over five years to increase the credit to $10,000.
  19. Grant a complete tax exemption for prepaid or college tuition savings plans.
  20. Reduced H1B visas from a high of 195,000 per year to 66,000 per year.

Character & Conduct as President

  1. Changed the tone in the White House, restoring HONOR and DIGNITY to the presidency.
  2. Has reintroduced the mention of God and faith into public discourse.
  3. Handled himself with enormous courage, dignity, grace, determination, and leadership in the aftermath of the September 11, 2001 hijackings and anthrax attacks. He almost single-handedly held this country together during those searing days:

Education & Employment Training

  1. Signed the No Child Left Behind Act, delivering the most dramatic education reforms in a generation (challenging the soft bigotry of low expectations). The very liberal California Teachers union is currently running radio ads against the accountability provisions of this Act.
  2. Announced "Jobs for the 21st Century," a comprehensive plan to better prepare workers for jobs in the new millennium by strengthening post-secondary education and job training, and by improving high school education.
  3. Is working to provide vouchers to low-income students in persistently failing schools to help with costs of attending private schools. (Blocked in the Senate.)
  4. Requires annual reading and math tests in grades three through eight.
  5. Requires states to participate in the National Assessment of Education Progress, or an equivalent program, to establish a national benchmark for academic performance.
  6. Requires school-by-school accountability report cards.
  7. Established a $2.4 billion fund to help states implement teacher accountability systems.
  8. Increased funding for the Troops-to-Teachers program, which recruits former military personnel to to become teachers.

Environment & Energy

  1. Killed the Kyoto Global Warming Treaty.
  2. Submitted a comprehensive Energy Plan (awaits Congressional action). The plan works to develop cleaner technology, produce more natural gas here at home, make America less dependent on foreign sources of energy, improve national grid, etc.
  3. Established a $10 million grant program to promote private conservation initiatives.
  4. Significantly eased field-testing controls of genetically engineered crops.
  5. Changed parts of the Forestry Management Act to allow necessary cleanup of the national forests in order to reduce fire danger.
  6. Part of national forests cleanup: Restricted judicial challenges (based on the Endangered Species Act and other challenges), and removed the need for an Environmental Impact Statement before removing fuels/logging to reduce fire danger.
  7. Killed Clinton's CO2 rules that were choking off all of the electricity surplus to California.
  8. Provided matching grants for state programs that help private landowners protect rare species.

Defense & Foreign Policy

  1. Successfully executed two wars in the aftermath of 9/11/01: Afghanistan and Iraq. 50 million people who had lived under tyrannical regimes now live in freedom.
  2. Saddam Hussein is now in prison. His two murderous sons are dead. All but a handful of the regime's senior members were killed or captured.
  3. Leader by leader and member by member, al Qaida is being hunted down in dozens of countries around the world. Of the senior al Qaida leaders, operational managers, and key facilitators the U.S. Government has been tracking, nearly two-thirds have been taken into custody or killed. The detentions or deaths of senior al Qaida leaders, including Khalid Shaykh Muhammad, the mastermind of 9/11, and Muhammad Atef, Osama bin Laden's second-in-command until his death in late 2001, have been important in the War on Terror.
  4. Disarmed Libya of its chemical, nuclear and biological WMD's without bribes or bloodshed.
  5. Continues to execute the War On Terror, getting worldwide cooperation to track funds/terrorists. Has cut off much of the terrorists' funding, and captured or killed many key leaders of the al Qaeda network.
  6. Initiated a comprehensive review of our military, which was completed just prior to 9/11/01, and which accurately reported that ASYMMETRICAL WARFARE capabilities were critical in the 21st Century.
  7. Killed the old US/Soviet Union ABM Treaty that was preventing the U.S. from deploying our ABM defenses.
  8. Has been one of the strongest, if not THE strongest friend Israel has ever hand in the U.S. presidency.
  9. Part of the coalition for an Israeli/Palestinian "Roadmap to Peace," along with Great Britain, Russia and the EU.
  10. Pushed through THREE raises for our military. Increased military pay by more than $1 billion a year.
  11. Signed the LARGEST nuclear arms reduction in world history with Russia.
  12. Started withdrawing our troops from Bosnia, and has announced withdrawal of our troops from Germany and the Korean DMZ.
  13. Prohibited putting U.S. troops under U.N. command.
  14. Paid back UN dues only in return for reforms and reduction of U.S. share of the costs.
  15. Earmarked at least 20 percent of the Defense procurement budget for next-generation weaponry.
  16. Increased defense research and development spending by at least $20 billion from fiscal 2002 to 2006.
  17. Ordered a comprehensive review of military weapons and strategy.
  18. Ordered a review of overseas deployments.
  19. Ordered renovation of military housing. The military has already upgraded about 10 percent of its inventory and expects to modernize 76,000 additional homes this year.
  20. Is working to tighten restrictions on military-technology exports.
  21. Brought back our EP-3 intel plane and crew from China without any bribes or bloodshed.

Globalization & Internationalism

  1. Challenged the United Nations to live up to their responsibilities and not become another League of Nations (in other words, showed the UN to be completely irrelevant).
  2. Killed U.S. involvement in the International Criminal Court.
  3. Told the United Nations we weren't interested in their plans for gun control (i.e., the International Ban on Small Arms Trafficking Treaty).*
  4. The only President since the founding of the UN to essentially tell that organization it is irrelevant. He said: "The conduct of the Iraqi regime is a threat to the authority of the United Nations, and a threat to peace. Iraq has answered a decade of UN demands with a decade of defiance. All the world now faces a test, and the United Nations a difficult and defining moment. Are Security Council resolutions to be honored and enforced, or cast aside without consequence? Will the United Nations serve the purpose of its founding, or will it be irrelevant?" We all know the outcome and the answer.
  5. Told the Congress and the world, "America will never seek a permission slip to defend the security of our country."

Government Reform

  1. Improved government efficiency by putting hundreds of thousands of jobs put up for bid. This weakens public-sector unions and cuts undeserved pay raises.
  2. Initiated review of all federal agencies with the goal of eliminating federal jobs (completed September 2003) in an effort to reduce the size of the federal government while increasing private sector jobs.
  3. Led the most extensive reorganization the Federal bureaucracy in over 50 years: After 9/11, condensed 20+ overlapping agencies and their intelligence sectors into one agency, the Department of Homeland Security.*
  4. Ordered each agency to draft a five-year plan to restructure itself, with fewer managers.
  5. Converted federal service contracts to performance-based contracts wherever possible so that the contractor has measurable performance goals.

Health

  1. Strengthen the National Health Service Corps to put more physicians in the neediest areas, and make its scholarship funds tax-free.
  2. Double the research budget of the National Institutes of Health.
  3. Signed Medicare Reform, which includes:

Homeland Security, Border Enforcement & Immigration

  1. *See Government Reform above. Under President Bush's leadership, America has made an unprecedented commitment to homeland security.
  2. Has CONSTRUCTION in process on the first 10 ABM silos in Alaska so that America will have a defense against North Korean nukes. Has ordered national and theater ballistic missile defenses to be deployed by 2004.
  3. Announced a 9.7% increase in government-wide homeland security funding in his FY 2005 budget, nearly tripling the FY 2001 levels (excluding the Department of Defense and Project BioShield).
  4. Before DHS was created, there were inspectors from three different agencies of the Federal Government and Border Patrol officers protecting our borders. Through DHS, U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP) now consolidates all border activities into a single agency to create "one face at the border." This not only better secures the borders of the United States, but it also eliminates many of the inefficiencies that occurred under the old system. With over 18,000 CBP inspectors and 11,000 Border Patrol agents, CBP has 29,000 uniformed officers on our borders.
  5. The Border Patrol is continuing installation of monitoring devices along the borders to detect illegal activity.
  6. Launched Operation Tarmac to investigate businesses and workers in the secure areas of domestic airports and ensure immigration law compliance. Since 9/11, DHS has audited 3,640 businesses, examined 259,037 employee records, arrested 1,030 unauthorized workers, and participated in the criminal indictment of 774 individuals.
  7. Since September 11, 2001, the Coast Guard has conducted more than 124,000 port security patrols, 13,000 air patrols, boarded more than 92,000 vessels, interdicted over 14,000 individuals attempting to enter the United States illegally, and created and maintained more than 90 Maritime Security Zones.
  8. Announced the Student and Exchange Visitor Information System (SEVIS), an internet-based system that is improving America's ability to track and monitor foreign students and exchange visitors. Over 870,000 students are registered in SEVIS. Of 285 completed field investigations, 71 aliens were arrested.
  9. This week, the US-VISIT program began to digitally collect biometric identifiers to record the entry and exit of aliens who travel into the U.S on a visa. Together with the standard information, this new program will confirm compliance with visa and immigration policies.
  10. Eliminated INS bureaucratic redundancies and lack of accountability.
  11. Split the Immigration and Naturalization Service into two agencies: one to protect the border and interior, the other to deal with naturalization.
  12. Signed the workplace verification bill to prevent hiring of illegal aliens.
  13. Established a six-month deadline for processing immigration applications.
  14. Information regarding nearly 100% of all containerized cargo is carefully screened by DHS before it arrives in the United States. Higher risk shipments are physically inspected for terrorist weapons and contraband prior to being released from the port of entry. Advanced technologies are being deployed to identify warning signs of chemical, biological, or radiological attacks. Since September 11, 2001, hundreds of thousands of first responders across America have been trained to recognize and respond to the effects of a WMD attack.

Judiciary & Tort Reform

  1. Is urging federal liability reform to eliminate frivolous lawsuits.
  2. Killed the liberal ABA's unconstitutional role in vetting federal judges. The Senate is supposed to advise and consent, not the ABA.
  3. Is nominating strong, conservative judges to the judiciary.
  4. Supports class action reform bill which limits lawyer fees so that more settlement money goes to victims.

Politics

  1. His leadership resulted in Republican gains in the House and Senate, solidifying Republican control of both houses of Congress and the presidency.
  2. Signed an EO enforcing the Supreme Court's Beck decision regarding union dues being used for political campaigns against individual's wishes.

Second Amendment

  1. Ordered Attorney General Ashcroft to formally notify the Supreme Court that the OFFICIAL U.S. government position on the 2nd Amendment is that it supports INDIVIDUAL rights to own firearms, and is NOT a Leftist-imagined "collective" right.
  2. Signed TWO bills into law that arm our pilots with handguns in the cockpit.
  3. Currently pushing for full immunity from lawsuits for our national gun manufacturers.
  4. *See Globalization & Internationalism.

Traditional Values, Compassion & Volunteerism

  1. Endorses and promotes "The Responsibility Era." President Bush often speaks of the necessity of personal responsibility and civic volunteerism. He said, "In a compassionate society, people respect one another and take responsibility for the decisions they make in life. My hope is to change the culture from one that has said, if it feels good, do it; if you've got a problem, blame somebody else — to one in which every single American understands that he or she is responsible for the decisions that you make; you're responsible for loving your children with all your heart and all your soul; you're responsible for being involved with the quality of the education of your children; you're responsible for making sure the community in which you live is safe; you're responsible for loving your neighbor, just like you would like to be loved yourself."
  2. Started the USA Freedom Corps, the most comprehensive clearinghouse of volunteer opportunities ever offered. For the first time in history, Americans can enter geographic information about where they want to get involved, such as state or zip code, as well as areas of interest ranging from education to the environment, and they can access volunteer opportunities offered by more than 50,000 organizations across the country and around the world.
  3. Established the The White House Office and the Centers for the Faith-Based and Community Initiative — located in seven Federal agencies. The faith-based initiative supports the essential work of these important organizations. The goal is to make sure that grassroots leaders can compete on an equal footing for federal dollars, receive greater private support, and face fewer bureaucratic barriers. Work focuses on at-risk youth, ex-offenders, the homeless and hungry, substance abusers, those with HIV/AIDS, and welfare-to-work families.
  4. The White House released a guidebook fully describing the Administration's belief that faith-based groups have a Constitutionally-protected right to maintain their religious identity through hiring — even when Federal funds are involved.
  5. Issued an EO implementing the Supreme Court's Olmstead ruling, which requires moving disabled people from institutions to community-based facilities when possible.
  6. Increased funding for low-interest loan programs to help people with disabilities purchase devices to assist them.
  7. Revised the Department of Housing and Urban Development's Section 8 rent subsidies to disabled people, permitting them to use up to a year's worth of vouchers to finance down payments on homes. HUD has started pilot programs in 11 states.
  8. Committed US funds to purchase medicine for millions of men, women and children now suffering with AIDS in Africa.
  9. Heeding the words of our own Declaration of Independence, the president laid out the non-negotiable demands of human dignity for all people everywhere. On January 29, 2002, he said, "No nation owns these aspirations, and no nation is exempt from them. We have no intention of imposing our culture. But America will always stand firm for the non-negotiable demands of human dignity." As stated by the President, they are a virtual manifesto of conservative principles:


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KEYWORDS: administration; bush; bush2004; bushdoctrineunfold; bushrecord; conservatives; electionpresident; georgewbush; gwb2004; gwblegacy; napalminthemorning; presidentbush; record; wot
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To: woodyinscc
No and neither can you. Neither of us can see into the future so stop acting like we can.

221 posted on 01/27/2004 8:43:33 AM PST by Bikers4Bush (Constitution party here I come. Write in Tancredo in 04'!)
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To: A Navy Vet
Agreed, no one can satisfy everyone, but the above are two VERY important issues where he is lacking.

I've had just about enough of your vapid bush hating spew:)

Seriously, I lost years off of my life during the 2000 election & the FLA vote counts on GW's behalf, and have thanked God he was president since we were attacked. I believe he is still far preferable to anything the Demos can field.

Having said that this lockstep, 'your with us or agin' us' 'bot crap is making me nauseous. The day there's no variety of opinion here is the day I'll pack up & leave.

222 posted on 01/27/2004 8:43:37 AM PST by skeeter
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To: Bikers4Bush
Well then, which bikers do you represent who are 4Bush?
223 posted on 01/27/2004 8:43:54 AM PST by b9
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To: PhiKapMom
Give it a rest! Maybe you put the domestic agenda ahead of national security but after spending most of my adult life around the Air Force, I do not.

You know nothing of either my military experience or my stand on national security issues. So respecfully, you give it a rest.

...even on the AOL poll recently it was the #1 issue by far.

I care little what AOL users think on the issue.

You are hiding your head in the sand if you think that domestic policy is going to trump national security.

President Bush has an exceptional foriegn policy record. That my no means gives him a pass on domestic issues. One could argue, rightfully so, that the illegal immigrant guest worker program profoundly degrades our national security if enacted.

Not to mention the DemocRAT candidates want an ever larger piece of the pie for domestic programs and less for national security. Some of you seem to forget that fact when attacking the President or do you?

I have not indicated who will be getting my vote, nor have I ever spoken positively of any Democratic candidate. Why do you make these inferences? I have disagreed with President Bush. I have not attacked him. Will you please recognize and respect the difference?

224 posted on 01/27/2004 8:44:02 AM PST by Doohickey (The ultimate paradigm of government is the public restroom)
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To: doodlelady
All of them.

You do know what a double entendre is don't you?
225 posted on 01/27/2004 8:46:05 AM PST by Bikers4Bush (Constitution party here I come. Write in Tancredo in 04'!)
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To: MeekOneGOP
Just have him FR Mail me an address where I can send a couple of them to, and it will be done :-)
226 posted on 01/27/2004 8:46:28 AM PST by MJY1288 (WITHOUT DOUBLE STANDARDS, LIBERALS WOULDN'T HAVE ANY !)
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To: Doohickey
Where did you get that exceptional foreign policy record? We have been kissing Arafat's behind, we have been sucking up to the Chinese communists, and we are spending billions to satisfy African dictators. Last I checked we are still paying UN dues. You lost me.
227 posted on 01/27/2004 8:46:41 AM PST by FirstPrinciple
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To: George W. Bush
Besides, do you really think Dim campaigns have time for us? It would be more likely that DU and others are toying with us. The actual Candidates Of Evil Democrat presidential campaigns seem to be a little preoccupied in New Hampshire.

I've been reading a couple different left sites other then the DU .. and yes there are some that have been keeping an eye on FR

228 posted on 01/27/2004 8:47:02 AM PST by Mo1 (Join the dollar a day crowd now!)
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To: Wolfstar
Bookmarked.

Thanks a lot.

229 posted on 01/27/2004 8:47:28 AM PST by onedoug
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To: PhiKapMom
Most of these folks wont hear it. Many of them live and breath their political party, and little else matters. Like I stated earlier, if Clinton would have spent money like this, and suggested that millions that have broken our laws be rewarded, these very same people would be the most outraged, and would be going after Clinton's head by any means possible.

I find it all very distasteful. IMO, not the type of people you'd want on your side anyway.

You finally wrote something I agree with -- feel exactly the same way.

Thanks Ma. I'm glad to see some can at least look beyond their little political party and be truthful.

230 posted on 01/27/2004 8:47:34 AM PST by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: onyx; Republic; risk; sport; Jimmy Valentine's brother; Diva Betsy Ross; Joy Angela
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So we're Free ...Free fallin ..for BUSH's...

...push for Freedom...

...for the oppressed...

...Peoples & Cultures of the World...

...as our own best Self-Defense against...

...future Terrorist Attacks here at home.


BUSH is our Protector.

.
231 posted on 01/27/2004 8:47:59 AM PST by ALOHA RONNIE (Vet-Battle of IA DRANG-1965 www.LZXRAY.com.N)
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To: Bikers4Bush
I know what double-talk is. Don't you?
232 posted on 01/27/2004 8:48:47 AM PST by b9
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To: Joe Hadenuf
I feel sorry for them. I have always thought that if you want to make sure you are on the straight and narrow always question who you follow and check their answers against their actions. And you are right if a dem pulled this domestic agenda these Bushbots would be screaming.
233 posted on 01/27/2004 8:48:57 AM PST by RiflemanSharpe (An American for a more socially and fiscally conservation America!)
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To: MJY1288; All
I get so bored by many of the same old arguments. Look, I certainly haven't agreed with many of the things the President has done or proposed. But I also have to look at the overall picture here. And on the overall scale, GWB still is the closest person to my core beliefs and values. Do I hate the spending? Yep. And don't even get me started on the Immigration plan.

But there is simple a thing called reality that I must follow. And that reality says that there will NEVER be a candidate that will match my wants and needs 100%. Never. So, I have to vote for the one that most closely matches those expectations.

And GWB is still the man.

That said, I will respect anyone who applies this rationale to their choice- GWB or not. But I would also hope that those who will not vote for GWB this time can also respect the reasons why we choose to support him. None of us are ever going to agree on the why's, the what's, etc. But for God's sake, all this mud slinging is getting old very fast, and makes us look no better than the scum slingers on the left.

234 posted on 01/27/2004 8:49:17 AM PST by rintense
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To: woodyinscc
He has just picked up the load that was given to him, shouldered it, and set out to correct it.!

This is true. And its a position that we've all experienced in our home/job: cleaning up other people's messes. In politics, especially in the historical politics of the left...there are many messes...some of which will take several years to scrub clean. But when your job is the POTUS and you have to deal with all of the complexities that come with the job...its a different ballgame. A bucket and a bottle of Mr. Clean won't cut it. Idealogies and attitudes take time to change, re-education (from the brainwashing of the left in all levels of American society) takes time, bureacracy takes time to change; and with change, there is always compromise and sacrifice. Thats where we're at right now.

235 posted on 01/27/2004 8:50:01 AM PST by BureaucratusMaximus (If we aren't going to be a Constitutional Republic...lets be the best empire we can be.)
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To: PhiKapMom
Well, it looks like folks aren't heeding Mr. Rumsfeld, huh ? Oh, well, lol !


236 posted on 01/27/2004 8:51:11 AM PST by MeekOneGOP (Check out this HILARIOUS story !! haha!: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1060580/posts)
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To: RiflemanSharpe
And you are right if a dem pulled this domestic agenda these Bushbots would be screaming.

Yep, these very same people would be doing that from the rooftops......

237 posted on 01/27/2004 8:51:11 AM PST by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: FirstPrinciple
President Bush has proposed a cap on increased spending for this fiscal year at 4% and a proposal is going forward to allow him to outsource more Government jobs to contractors here in the States.

The problem with outsourcing jobs to contractors is the Federal Employees Union -- most obstructionist bunch of non-workers you will ever meet. If employees worked for contractors, they still cannot strike, but you could sure fire the worthless ones. That's why they don't want outsourcing to American contractors.

Didn't spend almost 8 years watching San Antonio ALC wage board get by with some of the worst work habits in AFMC for nothing. How about beer cans in the C-5's where they were supposed to be overhauling and repairing equipment during Depot Maintenance or workers found sleeping or 1 supervisor for 2 employees?

If the President had the authority to start outsourcing these wage board jobs in DoD, they would be going to certified mechanics employees by the contractor. In AFMC, you don't have to be certified to work on our planes.

Some of you think the President can do whatever he wants and forget the basic principles of the Constitution. The President submits to Congress a budget and his proposals and it is up to Congress to pass or reject those proposals. As I said on Immigration and I will say now, Congress is where you need to focus getting more Conservatives.

What the naysayers on this thread tell me with the total focus on the President is that they do not want a Republican President -- if they did, they would be concentrating on getting more conservatives in the House and Senate instead of bashing the President all the time.

Some of you liked it when Clinton was President because you could whine and bash and get Republicans to agree. You still to want to whine and bash but now we have a Republican President a lot of us intend to work to see reelected and you don't like that fact it seems.

Get off the dime and get out there and work in conservative Congressional campaigns for the primary so we can get more conservatives in Congress!

238 posted on 01/27/2004 8:51:44 AM PST by PhiKapMom (AOII Mom -- Support Bush-Cheney '04)
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To: MeekOneGOP
When all else fails, post cute little pictures.....
239 posted on 01/27/2004 8:51:49 AM PST by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: rintense
I get so bored by many of the same old arguments.

Agreed.

From the same old people.

240 posted on 01/27/2004 8:51:56 AM PST by Howlin
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