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Al Qaeda again threatens New York, Washington and Los Angeles (thread 2) Daily Terror Threat
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| 11/03/03
Posted on 01/26/2004 1:01:03 PM PST by Mossad1967
Edited on 01/26/2004 2:18:02 PM PST by Sidebar Moderator.
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Al Qaeda again threatens New York, Washington and Los Angeles
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TOPICS: News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: informative; links; terrorism; threatmatrix
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To: JustPiper
Reference 1842:
Yep. Pretty close to it.
To: null and void
1,962
posted on
01/29/2004 11:09:18 AM PST
by
Calpernia
(Innocence seldom utters outraged shrieks. Guilt does.)
To: StillProud2BeFree
"Most Esteemed Abu Al Saqr
Not to worry. You to receive triple frequent flyer miles for cost of trip if can't go. Beloved wife can use them."
Couldn't resist drafting this proposed answer! (ROFLOL)
To: brucecw
True, thanks. :)
To: rickylc
It's been a bloody day in ME.
To: All
If you really want to understand the enemy we face today then you MUST read what is contained in the link below. This will give you an insight into the black heart of the jihasists.
Here are a couple of snippets to whet your appetite to click on the link and read the entire article:
Begin excerpt:
The first thing we learned growing up was to hate Jews, Walid recalled. Ill never forgot the first song I learned in school, Arabs our beloved and Jews our dogs. I used to wonder at that time who the Jews were, but repeated the words with the rest of the kids without any knowledge of the meaning.
Soon after the Six-Day-War his father transferred him to a school in Bethlehem where I grew in the faith of Islam, in which I was fed the idea that one day a fulfillment of an ancient prophecy by the Muslim prophet Mohammed would come to pass, recalled Shoebat. The prophecy foretold a battle in which the Holy Land would be recaptured and the elimination of the Jews would take place in a massive slaughter. The day of judgment shall not come to pass until a tribe of Muslims defeat a tribe of Jews, it said, in Jerusalem and the surrounding nations.
It was not long before Walids education led him to get involved in various terrorist activities. He routinely stirred up riots and lynch mobs, throwing firebombs and rocks at soldiers and pelting Jewish worshippers at the Western Wall. He even beat an Israeli soldier, with the intent to kill, but the soldier escaped at the last second.
What the West does not understand about Islam, Shoebat said on Tovia Singers radio broadcast, is that Jihad has stages. If Muslims have the upper hand then Jihad is waged by force. If Muslims dont have the upper hand then Jihad is waged through financial and political means. Since Muslims do not have the upper hand in America or Europe, they talk about peace while supporting Hamas and Hezballah. The whole idea of Islam being a peaceful religion emanates from that silent stage of Jihad."
The Imam (Islamic cleric) of Orange County, California, a guest on Singers radio show as well, took issue with Shoebats claims, saying that Jihad represents an inner struggle and not the genocidal slaughter of infidels called for by Osama bin Ladin. Shoebat unblinkingly refuted the clericc claims, reciting verse after verse of Koranic scripture in its original Arabic and translating into English. There are over one hundred quotes by Mohammad regarding Jihad I could recite each one of them but we would be here all day. Every single one refers specifically to Jihad by the sword, by killing, by taking no prisoners with only one quote referring to an internal struggle called for by Mohammad after the complete conquest and occupation of Arabia. He said that such claims were typical of the Islamic leadership in America, and are consumed eagerly by western audiences who do not want to believe that one of the major world religions poses such a danger to humanity.
Asked whether he believes that Musims in America truly adhere to the program of Jihad he described, Shoebat qualified his statements saying, Afghans in the U.S. and Iranians who left Iran are predominately peaceful people. The Arabic speaking communities in America, however, do indeed support Osama bin Ladin and Hamas. He cites a direct correlation between adherence to Islam and support of terrorism. The less they know about Islam the more peaceful they are, he said.
End excerpt.
The lesson in this story needs to be learned by this nations leadership.
We need to understand that this kind of a mentality would not hesitate to detonate a nuclear device or worse in an American city. To hope beyond hope that Midaat Mursi and others like him will have a change of heart like Walid Shoebat did in Jerusalem is not the answer.
YOU DO NOT MAKE DEALS OR POLITICAL ARRANGEMENTS WITH THESE FANATICS.
I hope the US national leadership also understands the concept of "The Peace of Saladin". If not, then we're dead meat.
Link here:
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/print.php3?what=news&id=56867
To: Sean Osborne Lomax
Good post Sean.
I really wonder if the disconnected, whiny, upper echelon pansy leaders we have in some elected and appointed offices can understand the English alphabet, much less a threat such as this. Most are too pre-occupied to lip service in the war on terror, and little offer a substantial contribution.
I've been in a government position most of my life, and I have never been more disgusted with leadership than I have in the last few years. Arrogance, turf protection, money squabbles, lots of theory and little implementation. People "in the know" are marginalized while idiots rule supreme.
We need to shake out about 6 layers of management and promote some of the less admired but more capable people in the netherworld to get some real results. We also have to take chances, make mistakes, and recover from them. There is no other solution, and it will be painful.
/rant over
To: appalachian_dweller
My brother lived down the street from a mosque.
Told me about it 9/11 evening. Cops were on that place like flies on.....
1,968
posted on
01/29/2004 11:55:52 AM PST
by
baltodog
(So, can we assume that a job that an illegal alien won't do must be REALLY bad?....)
To: Sean Osborne Lomax
"Fight and slay the pagans (infidels) wherever ye find them, and seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem of war." Quran, Sura 9:5
Islam: Legacy of Hate; Born of deception, weaned on violence.
1,969
posted on
01/29/2004 11:58:16 AM PST
by
milkncookies
(Usama Bin Muhammad Bin Ladin: "El Khara Dah? You have looser lips than a whore in Marakesh")
To: baltodog
So it was your brother that told you about the pre-9/11 celebrations?
1,970
posted on
01/29/2004 11:59:21 AM PST
by
appalachian_dweller
(Dear Daleel & EOM, May the fleas of 1000 camels infest your armpits.)
To: appalachian_dweller
Yes.
BTW, I rarely talk about him here because he hates these kind of sites.
"My job is worth more than my opinion." says he. He thinks these kind of sites are being monitored.
I don't doubt it, but if it ever has any effect on me, then everything we've discussed in FR is true...
1,971
posted on
01/29/2004 12:03:33 PM PST
by
baltodog
(So, can we assume that a job that an illegal alien won't do must be REALLY bad?....)
To: Sean Osborne Lomax
If Islam is not accepted?
"Their punishment is...execution, or crucifixion, or the cutting off of hands and feet from the opposite sides, or exile from the land." Sura 5:33
Al Tawbah The Repentance): "Prophet, make war on unbelievers and hypocrites, and deal rigorously with them." Sura 9:73
1,972
posted on
01/29/2004 12:03:38 PM PST
by
milkncookies
(Usama Bin Muhammad Bin Ladin: "El Khara Dah? You have looser lips than a whore in Marakesh")
To: judicial meanz
"There is no other solution, and it will be painful."
The alternative is unthinkable.
To: Sean Osborne Lomax
Salman Rushdie had it right.
To: Sean Osborne Lomax
IMHO I believe some of the Cold Warriors in various government agencies could show the new generation a thing or two about how to fight this type of war.
And how to fight it to win.
To: Sean Osborne Lomax
Diplomats say the Saudi government is deeply worried the haj, which in past years has been plagued by stampedes and accidents, could become a target for attack or be used as a cover for militants to infiltrate the kingdom.Is it just me, or is every darn thing about that cult just completely cracked?
To: Dr.Deth
Believe me, it's definitely not you.
To: JustPiper; Revel; Calpernia
"I can't be more specific as to the threats of attacks. We have received information that indicates there is an interest." Maritime security has been a back-burner thing with DHS since the kickoff. The main thing was to get the airports secure once again.
Think of it this way: How many business commuters travel by container ship? Or by river barge and tug? The vast volume of human passengers travel by commercial air, and with the assets in place post-9/11, that was the high-payoff action to take.
Now that the commercial skies are more secure (not a 100% solution, but deterrence goes a long way), more assets can be tasked, and greater emphasis paid, to maritime security. Assets in place will be augmented first, therefore, before new things get tried.
UPSHOT: Now we're getting more rumblings about the ports and the ships. It's because there's more notice. And the enemy watches the increase in activity, too. They're seeing greater awareness and vigilance, so some targets might get bypassed as being too solid to take.
It's a massive chess-game, Folks. And we have a few Grand Masters on our side, too.
To: JustPiper
Osama Bin Laden
To: Pegita
And Amen.
1,980
posted on
01/29/2004 1:04:48 PM PST
by
Cindy
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