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How Bush could lose it
OC Register ^ | 1/25/04 | John Hood

Posted on 01/25/2004 10:34:04 AM PST by NormsRevenge

Edited on 04/14/2004 10:06:37 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

President George W. Bush blew it Tuesday night. He delivered a State of the Union address that downplayed his most promising - and potentially revolutionary - domestic-policy initiatives. Earlier drafts had reportedly contained a lengthy exposition of his vision of an "ownership society," expanded and strengthened by tax changes and Social Security reform.


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TOPICS: Editorial; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2004; bush; couldloseit; electionpresident; gwb2004; reform; socialsecurity
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To: Consort
Hopw = How
281 posted on 01/25/2004 6:07:46 PM PST by Consort
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To: arete
""That's pretty funny coming from a group who would be yelling "treason" at the top of their lungs if a democrat was trashing the constitution the way the current administration is""

I would not be yelling treason if a Dem adminstration passed the Patriot Act....Richard, I dont think you are even capable of telling me how the war on terror, of which you are opposed to, is violating your rights.

It is people like Richard who are anti-American at heart. Richard you blame the US for 9/11 I bet. Al Qaeda was only responding to US intervention in their lands and support for Israel, I bet you would say.

Without civilization, Richard there are no civil liberties.

Ill be quiet and let you take it since you do such an excellent job of hanging yourself
282 posted on 01/25/2004 6:09:21 PM PST by lsmith1990
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To: Dec31,1999; RiflemanSharpe
"Neither actually. I live in TX. If GWB is in danger of losing TX then he has lost so many other states he has lost the election. I can vote my conscience and it will have 0 effect on GWB. But at least I would have made my stand.

It's funny you should say that. I live in NY, where my vote won't matter a dang anyway, either, LOL!"

Wow! What a coincidence. I live in NC where my vote doesn't count worth a whizz either...
283 posted on 01/25/2004 6:13:27 PM PST by azhenfud ("He who is always looking up seldom finds others' lost change...")
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To: eleni121
A couple more full terms of conservative Republican presidents/congresses and many of the socialistic policies put into place since Roosevelt could wither away...it cannot be done overnight.

We had 12 straight years of "arch-conservative" presidents (Reagan and Bush I). Government programs did not come close to "whithering away." In fact they grew leaps and bounds. Another term from a "conservative" Dubya may see the gubmint grow by even more than the third it has so far under his watch. "Conservative,"? "Fiscal conservative"? Not hardly.

284 posted on 01/25/2004 6:15:29 PM PST by Types_with_Fist
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To: azhenfud; Dane
That is why I can vote this way. I know that the Constitution Party does not have a prayer of winning. But I hope GWB will see the base bolting and have to shift to the right. Drop the amnesty and cut spending. We need to keep his feet to the fire.
285 posted on 01/25/2004 6:18:21 PM PST by RiflemanSharpe (An American for a more socially and fiscally conservation America!)
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To: Consort
Rats will do zero, or much below minus zero. That's why I say vote for GWB but not ANY RINO in any other race. But I also want the Republicans to work for the vote, not just assume it and then work for others by promising my future tax dollars, or those of my future line. I want responsible Republicans, not way-too-clever strategyists.

The philosophy of liberty should sell without the welfare handouts - its that good. If it doesn't, maybe the communicator has a problem, either speaking it, having the courage to speak it, or maybe believing it. At some point if the ineffectiveness continues, maybe a new party is needed to galvinize action.

286 posted on 01/25/2004 6:20:18 PM PST by kcar (A tax slave who feels like an enabler.)
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To: lsmith1990
I've been watching her carefully.

She has let the other candidates do the heavy lifting on Iraq. She voted for the war and has never renounced it. She has no public record on jobs or immigration.

And she is prepared to do anything.

287 posted on 01/25/2004 6:22:10 PM PST by Jim Noble (Now you go feed those hogs before they worry themselves into anemia!)
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To: Dane
Sorry, but, IMO this country can't afford your pollyanish hypothetical pipe dreams.

Weird point, but IMO, ''pollyanish hypothetical pipe dreams'' would make a great name for a rock band.
288 posted on 01/25/2004 6:22:59 PM PST by kiki p
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To: arete
How can we neoconazis do anything about "sleeper cells" or the thousands of "mooselimb types" coming here "perfectly legally" when the liberals scream and howl if we even look at them with a hint of suspicion?

Never forget, Chief Moose had everyone looking for 2 white guys in a white van....day after day, week after week, body after body.

It was socially forbidden to consider that anyone other than some redneck/NRA lovin' Anglo was killing people for kicks.

You cannot protect yourself or your country when "liberals" have made it illegal to "profile" no matter how accurate the profiling may indeed be.

Mexicans, the 'job stealing' issue aside, don't come here to bomb us.
They come to pick lettuce and make money to feed their families.
Why should *they* be hated when certain other "ethnic groups" are protected from scrutiny?

That raises many questions and should set off many alarms about what the nazilibs are really up to....:)
289 posted on 01/25/2004 6:23:31 PM PST by Salamander (Sal O'Mander)
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To: RiflemanSharpe
Dubya's Moderate stance will lose him a lot of Conservative votes but it will also gain him a lot of Democrap votes.

I believe Dubya will win re-election anyway but he will do it without my money and my vote this time.

I wish those idiots from his re-election campaign would quit asking me for more money. I keep sending back their postage-paid envelopes, asking to be taken off their mailing list but they're too stupid to do it.

290 posted on 01/25/2004 6:24:05 PM PST by RightWinger
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To: Types_with_Fist
Reagan was saddled with ending the Cold War or don't you care about that? If you remember (?) his defense budgets increased and Congress refused to go along with spending cuts in domestic programs though his tax cuts fueled the good times in the 90s.

The welfare reform aka cuts was instigated by Gingrich and the conservatives then. What has happened is that some states have taken over and in many cases continued to the bad old policies of the past. In this case it is the states that have expanded, not the feds.

Now Dubya is doing a heroic job in cutting in the face of an entrenched liberal establishment and getting defense done. Pushing SS reform, prescription reform with privatization in the future, expanding school choice, etc. Damn good I's say. Can you imagine the alternative?

291 posted on 01/25/2004 6:24:37 PM PST by eleni121 (Preempt and Prevent)
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To: Jim Noble
"I've been watching her carefully.
She has let the other candidates do the heavy lifting on Iraq. She voted for the war and has never renounced it. She has no public record on jobs or immigration.

And she is prepared to do anything."

thats isnt really a source


292 posted on 01/25/2004 6:24:56 PM PST by lsmith1990
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To: RightWinger
I just toss them in the trash, myself.
293 posted on 01/25/2004 6:25:56 PM PST by RiflemanSharpe (An American for a more socially and fiscally conservation America!)
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To: RightWinger
I just toss them in the trash, myself. When the reps move to the right they will get more of my money.
294 posted on 01/25/2004 6:26:00 PM PST by RiflemanSharpe (An American for a more socially and fiscally conservation America!)
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To: RightWinger
I just toss them in the trash, myself. When the reps move to the right they will get more of my money.
295 posted on 01/25/2004 6:26:05 PM PST by RiflemanSharpe (An American for a more socially and fiscally conservation America!)
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To: MEG33
Hey MEG33..."Are you still beating your wife?"

( LOL! Classic Usenet joke there )....:))
296 posted on 01/25/2004 6:27:22 PM PST by Salamander (Sal O'Mander)
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To: lsmith1990
It is people like Richard who are anti-American at heart. Richard you blame the US for 9/11 I bet. Al Qaeda was only responding to US intervention in their lands and support for Israel, I bet you would say.

You are surprisingly ill informed and wrong with almost every one of your posts. All you have to do is turn off Fox news for a day or two and read a little history. Start with "All the Shah's Men: An American Coup and the Roots of Middle East Terror". After you come to grips with what really caused the the resurgence of fundamentalism and its consequences, then come back and talk about 9/11. If you want to bury your head in government propaganda and blaming others and scapegoating to avoid the truth, then so be it. Just can the empty easy answers cause you look foolish.

Richard W.

297 posted on 01/25/2004 6:29:33 PM PST by arete (Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God.)
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To: kcar
That's why I say vote for GWB but not ANY RINO in any other race.

At this time, RINOs give the Conservatives control of Congress, or else the Liberals would be chairing all the committees and setting the congressional agenda, etc. If one RINO leaves the Senate, the probable new Senate Majority Leader, Tom Daschle, will set the Senate agenda.

298 posted on 01/25/2004 6:31:50 PM PST by Consort
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To: eleni121
I know, I know. I've heard countless excuses about why government expansion cannot be curtailed. Still, the government--whether "conservative" or "liberal"--continues to expand in spite of all the "heroism" you mentioned. The real "hero" would be the "conservative" who actually reduces the size of the Federal Government.

BTW, I'm a long-term Freeper, a conservative AND I voted for Bush last time. So, I'm not a plant...:-). Just disagree with you and many others about Bush.

299 posted on 01/25/2004 6:33:02 PM PST by Types_with_Fist
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To: Salamander
Never forget, Chief Moose had everyone looking for 2 white guys in a white van....day after day, week after week, body after body.

What in the name of heaven are you running on about? You think that stopping a bunch of people from illegally crossing the border is profiling? You guys are getting stranger and stranger.

Richard W.

300 posted on 01/25/2004 6:34:17 PM PST by arete (Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God.)
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