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...a real convention fight in July for who controls the Democratic Party

OK class... who controls the Democratic Party?

1 posted on 01/22/2004 4:11:05 AM PST by johnny7
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Why don't they just nominate Sharpton? What's wrong with that idea? Why are they resisting it?
2 posted on 01/22/2004 4:13:35 AM PST by samtheman
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Well, ol' Wes is collapsing, and Edwards shows that he can run thrid pretty well. I think Kerry will do pretty well now everywhere except the South, making it a two-way race between the Breck Girl and John efffing Kerry. It will likely end with Edwards agreeing to be the veep.
3 posted on 01/22/2004 4:18:11 AM PST by LS (CNN is the Amtrack of news.)
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All in the thick of it are the down-sliding Dean, Iowa victor John Kerry, runner-up John Edwards and Wesley Clark.

As long as more than two candidates stay in the race, it will be very hard for any one to muster a majority.

I think the article's premise is flawed. I don't believe that after NH, there will be four candidates "in the thick of it." Dean will be totally gone. And Wesley Clark will be hanging by a thread, with a possible third-place finish.

With the revival of Kerry and Edwards, Clark has lost both his claims to fame - as the only viable military man or southerner in the race. So I expect him to be gone too shortly after he loses South Carolina badly.

Prediction: by the week after South Carolina, it will be down to a two-man race - Kerry and Edwards. No brokered convention. No Hillary.

4 posted on 01/22/2004 4:20:51 AM PST by governsleastgovernsbest
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Dean is no longer a major contender.

Clark will not be, once he's in the public eye for ten minutes.

The people are not going to elect a trial lawyer with less than one term in the Senate (and no achievements while there) to the Presidency.

Kerry is a done deal. The only way Hillary! can stop him is to destroy him like she did Dean.

There is no scenario any more (if there ever was) that leads to a deadlocked convention.

8 posted on 01/22/2004 4:23:16 AM PST by Jim Noble (Now you go feed those hogs before they worry themselves into anemia!)
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they know they'll get blown out of the water thise year, so the most important spot on the ticket is for VP to get ready for 008; i won't be surprised if they run two or three people this year for VP and skip nominating anyone for president
9 posted on 01/22/2004 4:24:36 AM PST by InvisibleChurch (Ski Resort Conditions)
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Nonesense, brokered conventions are historical relics. The modern realities of money and mechanics virtually rule them out.

Unfortunately, Kerry will be nominated now that Dean has imploded. I am standing by my prediction made July 15, on these thresads, Kerry will be nomiinated but will narrowly lose the general.
10 posted on 01/22/2004 4:24:41 AM PST by nathanbedford
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Well I for one would LOVE to see a Hillary / Bush matchup...
I think Bush would win by a larger margin than he would have had Dean not flammed out to soon.

Some on these boards try to paint Hillary as the "ultimate" democrat candidate, some secret weapon that could beat Bush.
I've never understood it personally...

-- Hillary managed to win a senate seat in New York, but even in liberal new york she isn't that popular. She is projected to lose if Guilliani or Pataki run against her in 2006.

-- Even her supporters admit she is not very photogenic and comes across as abrasive and condescending. The only reason she got to where she is was by riding Bills coatails. She simply doesn't have any of his charm. While Bill got away with just about anything because of his "slick willy" ability. Hillary was never as fortunate and consistently had negative ratings while Bill was in the White House.

-- Unlike with potential democrat candidates such as Clark or Edwards, Hillary could write off all the southern states before the campaign even began, her negatives are stratospheric in that region.
That means the only way she could win would be to take ALL of the heavily union mid-west swing states. While the unions would support her, the rank and file tend to be much more conservative and would vote for Bush in droves.

-- Talk about broken glass republicans! Everybody with even a slightly conservative bone in their body will be lined up at the polls 3 hours before they open just for a chance to vote against Hillary. Hillary will bring out the conservative vote in numbers that haven't been seen since Reagan's day's.

13 posted on 01/22/2004 4:35:00 AM PST by apillar
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Howard Dean's post-Iowa primal shriek meltdown

I have a problem here, help me out. I saw (like many other people) Dean's performance at Iowa over and over again. It didn't appall me. It was exactly what I would expect from him. I guess after all the outrageous statements, the flip-flopping, the extreme anger and bursts of incoherent irrationality, his followers now decide they've had enough?

Why was Iowa any different from any other speech of his? For me, he's always been this way.

15 posted on 01/22/2004 4:41:14 AM PST by MrsEmmaPeel
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18 posted on 01/22/2004 5:02:20 AM PST by rdb3 (If Jesse Jack$on and I meet, face to face, it's gonna be a misunderstanding...)
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If George Bush thinks he can take his core supporters for granted--he is absolutely right!

The more responsible people see of this Democrat Freakshow, the faster they'll flock to the polls to reelect Bush!

27 posted on 01/22/2004 6:10:50 AM PST by Savage Beast (Whom will the terrorists vote for? Not George Bush--that's for sure! ~Happy2BMe)
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Amazing! Do you think that the New York Post has a lurker on FreeRepulic?

See my comment (#69)to a artical from yesterday.

"I like Condoleezza Rice and think she would make good President someday. But I think we should stay focus on the 2004 election and worry about 2008 later.

Because you never know what will happen between now and Nov.,especially where the Clintons are involved.

Actually, I believe it possible that Hillary will walk out of the Democratic National Convention as her party’s nominee for President, not in 2008 but 2004.

The NIGHTMARE scenario I see unfolding at the convention is that the delegates will be split between 2 or 3 candidates, with none having enough to secure the nomination. Resulting in Hillary being drafted on the second or third ballot.

Guess what? She accepts the nomination of her party to the overwhelming approval of the major news media.

She escapes the scrutiny of the primaries and really only has to worry about her political opponents for about a month after the convention, because 60 days before the election, Campaign finance shuts her opposition down. Even so, most of the month or so of campaigning will be taken up by the media focusing on the history changing events of the convention and by the GOP trying to put a strategy together to oppose her.

69 posted on 01/21/2004 12:10:09 PM EST by Bessellieu [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies | Report Abuse ]

28 posted on 01/22/2004 6:11:22 AM PST by Bessellieu
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