Posted on 01/15/2004 8:00:56 AM PST by tberry
Police: Homeowner Didn't Have To Use Deadly Force Shooter Says 2 Men Tried To Rob Him
POSTED: 9:54 AM CST January 13, 2004 UPDATED: 5:49 PM CST January 14, 2004
GRAND PRAIRIE, Texas -- Police now say they think a shooter in Grand Prairie did not have to use deadly force.
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SURVEY A Grand Prairie homeowner, with a concealed handgun license, says two men stormed his home and forced him to withdraw cash. He says he felt his life was in danger before he fatally shot them. Should he have been arrested on capital murder charges?
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Foyil Edward Deal, 63, says two men stormed his home and forced him to withdraw cash from an ATM Tuesday morning.
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On the drive home, Deal, who has a concealed handgun license, says he pulled out a pistol from his pocket and shot Wesley Lewis Duncan, 40, and Wylie Bailey Casey, 35, in the head.
"They may have known about him, may have known he had monies," Detective John Brimmer (pictured, left) said.
Deal is in the Dallas County Jail after a judge set bond at $750,000.
A grand jury will hear the case to decide if there is enough evidence to prosecute the case.
Consuelo Mendoza is standing by her neighbor's story.
"I can only tell you that people have been coming in and out of there that we don't know, that is not normal for him," he said.
"For him to have done this, he would have been extremely threatened," he said.
Duncan had a lengthy criminal record that included burglary charges.
Deal ain't pretty.
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Read #66. There are reasonable doubts about Deal's claims.
How do you shoot someone in the back of the head, in self-defense?
While it does raise questions, don't automatically assume that because someone was shot in the back or in the back of the head, it was not self defense. If you've been holding a gun, or in this case a bat, on me and I am armed, my first chance to get my shot off and save my life might be when you turn your head or turn around for a second. Again, not saying it was right or wrong based solely on that, just that it could still be right.
Now, if it said that the guy was shot in the back of the head while kneeling with his arms bound behind his back...
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Ever been in a fight sinkspur? It's not exactly as neat and clean as "Rock'm Sock'm Robots."
If the police can demonstrate it wasn't self-defense, fine. But they'd better also be able to prove the guy wasn't kidnapped or being threatened with physical violence by the two other guys.
When the police take on the appearence of agressively defending two punks who got what they deserved, regardless of the character of the one who delivered it, they diminish the respect of their own badges. The way I see it, if they believe that the guy was kidnapped and threatened with violence, that ought to be enough to diminish their zeal to look much further into it.
Nope, this confirms rather than refuting my insight that the local media is grasping at straws to discredit a case of armed self-defense.
If this was a drug deal gone sour (and there is at least reasonable doubt that it might have been), then a grand jury is the right place to sort this out.
Look, the world is better off without the two dead men. But, Deal may or may not have been in fear of his life. This could have been an execution.
and the point of that is...? (Other than to advance the "you don't need a gun because mist people are killed by family members and people they know" agenda)
withdraw cash from an ATM Tuesday morning. ...On the drive home
OK. now it's passed the "just give them the money and they'll leave you alone point".
Happens to handcuffed *suspects* in police cars all the time.
Another cop-basher. Save it for your militia buddies. I ain't interested.
A Grand Prairie homeowner, with a concealed handgun license, says two men stormed his home and forced him to withdraw cash. He says he felt his life was in danger before he fatally shot them.
On the drive home, Deal, who has a concealed handgun license, says he pulled out a pistol from his pocket and shot Wesley Lewis Duncan, 40, and Wylie Bailey Casey, 35, in the head.
Which is it? Or is it two separate incidents?
Thanks.
Maybe you ought to be. The job you save could be your own.
Wrong-o.
Unfortunately, there is more to this case - the old man apparently known the two individuals, the old man *had* been involved with drugs/taking drugs.
When the story originally broke - it looked and sounded like he had acted in defense of his life. As time went on and MORE details were released, it has not looked as certain ...
UNFORTUNATELY, most of you "Monday morning QB's" don't have a chance to see the interviews we see locally with some of the neighbors by the TV stations either or the other small details that get aired ...
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