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Ten Russians Reported Killed in Chechnya
Associated Press ^ | 12/20/03 | YURI BAGROV

Posted on 12/20/2003 2:59:44 PM PST by TexKat

VLADIKAVKAZ, Russia - Ten Russian servicemen were killed in rebel attacks in Chechnya within 24 hours, an official in the Kremlin-backed Chechen administration said Saturday.

In the neighboring republic of Dagestan, meanwhile, Russian forces in the snowy mountains fought a band of Chechen insurgents who crossed into Dagestan early in the week.

The news agency ITAR-Tass cited Dagestan's leader, Magomedali Magomedov, as saying that one group of insurgents was trapped in a gorge, but it was unclear whether that included all the remaining fighters who entered Dagestan on Monday. Officials previously said that at least 10 of those rebels had been killed.

The foray into Dagestan prompted fears that Chechen rebels would repeat previous incursions into the region during Russia's two wars against Chechen separatists in the past decade.

Russian troops rolled back into Chechnya in September 1999 after Chechen rebels carried out attacks in villages in western Dagestan and after the Kremlin blamed militants for apartment bombings that killed some 300 people in Russia.

The current war has seen few major offensives by either side in recent years. The battle has turned into a bloody stalemate in which the rebels inflict daily casualties on the Russians with small attacks and explosions, while Russian forces pound the mountainous southern region with artillery and air attacks to uproot the rebels.

During a recent 24-hour span, five Russian soldiers were killed when military positions and checkpoints came under rebel fire, an official in the Chechen administration said on condition of anonymity.

Three more soldiers died when their armored personnel carrier hit a land mine, and two members of OMON, the Interior Ministry's special troops, were killed during a clash with rebels, the official said.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: caucasus; chechnya
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To: chudogg
No, we lost. Our former enemies of the cold war are now the model capitalist states & we are embracing communism more and more every day.
21 posted on 12/20/2003 8:24:52 PM PST by Archie Bunker on steroids
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To: Archie Bunker on steroids
Is there an independent media in Russia? How about right to keep and bear arms?
22 posted on 12/20/2003 8:26:32 PM PST by chudogg (www.chudogg.blogspot.com)
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To: chudogg
Flat tax in Russia & populations in the former eastern bloc that are embracing freedom and trying to make government less and less relevant in their lives.
23 posted on 12/20/2003 8:38:04 PM PST by Archie Bunker on steroids
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To: Henk
If he wanted that, then US provide more then enough...bomb Serbs, expend NATO, move troops to border of Russia. In Chechnya there is no marshal law and Chechins can travel most Russia...there your oppressed Islamics. But if Putin deemed thug, then Bush is magolomanic world butcher....using same standard.
24 posted on 12/20/2003 8:44:30 PM PST by RussianConservative (Xristos: the Light of the World)
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To: Archie Bunker on steroids
Beside, suitcase nuke would not take one neighborhood of Moscow out. Forecast for Chechins afterward: mountains washed in blood fountains. Forecast for most Muslim in Russia: mass quick conversion or fellow fate of Chechins. Forecast for Saudi backers: big loud kaboom heard world wide as Ryhad vaporized.
25 posted on 12/20/2003 8:47:34 PM PST by RussianConservative (Xristos: the Light of the World)
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To: Archie Bunker on steroids
Shall we start list of Islamic conflicts?

1. Russia (Chechnya)
2. Indonesia (Jihad armada butcher Islander Christians)
3. Makedonia (KLA lite)
4. Bosnia
5. Yugoslavia (Kosovo)
6. Israel (PLO/Humphaz, HezBlow, etc)
7. Sudan (genocide of Christians)
8. Pakistan/India
9. Phillipines
10. China (Islamics in NW)
11. Nigeria
12. Ethiopia/Eritria
13. Iraq/US
14. Afghanistan/US
15. Cyprus
16. Lebanon
17. Armenia/Azerbajan 18. Turkmanistan (Russia vs Fanatics)

Anyone more?

26 posted on 12/20/2003 8:53:35 PM PST by RussianConservative (Xristos: the Light of the World)
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To: chudogg
Can presently own pistols of none combat caliber (.22 & .25), can own shutguns or rifles (bolt action). Murdoch is to buy NTV.
27 posted on 12/20/2003 8:54:50 PM PST by RussianConservative (Xristos: the Light of the World)
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To: Archie Bunker on steroids
Link to passport of pictures of dead Turkish jihadi scum. All became fertilizer in Russia.
28 posted on 12/20/2003 9:06:22 PM PST by RussianConservative (Xristos: the Light of the World)
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To: RussianConservative
All true -- and thanks for the comprehensive list below. It just astounds me that very few people seem to see what the real problem is, and just how deadly serious it is.
29 posted on 12/20/2003 9:50:12 PM PST by NYC GOP Chick (Kaddafi is such a whack job that he never promoted himself past Colonel!)
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To: RussianConservative
You've got most of them..Algeria? In most Muslim countries, they've wiped out all of the Christians. They're making in roads in Thailand, threatening Singapore & Malaysia. Bottom line is that they are threatening thsi whole planet & have infiltrated the non muslim world.
30 posted on 12/20/2003 9:54:30 PM PST by Archie Bunker on steroids
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To: RussianConservative
You may want to show Chuddog a list of Russian reforms post Soviet break up.
31 posted on 12/20/2003 9:57:18 PM PST by Archie Bunker on steroids
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To: NYC GOP Chick
When oh when will people finally realize/admit/acknowledge that Russia's battle against the Chechnyan terrorists is the same battle we're fighting against al qaeda and the same that Israel

Unfotunately the American public has been brainwashed over a long period of time to sympathize with the Chechens in this conflict, and as you know old habits die hard. It wouldn't even surprise me if the majority of the electorate over here in the States is unware that Chechens are Muslims, and certainly the connection between Chechen terror orgs and Al Qaeda isn't widely known.

It's a worldwide battle to the death with islamofascism

A multi-front war that's really just beginning, and that will probably get significantly nastier as time goes on.

32 posted on 12/20/2003 9:59:04 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: Mr. Mojo
Unfotunately the American public has been brainwashed over a long period of time to sympathize with the Chechens in this conflict, and as you know old habits die hard. It wouldn't even surprise me if the majority of the electorate over here in the States is unware that Chechens are Muslims, and certainly the connection between Chechen terror orgs and Al Qaeda isn't widely known.

I think I'm one of the very few who knew all this prior to 9/11.

A multi-front war that's really just beginning, and that will probably get significantly nastier as time goes on.

I fear that it won't get the recognition and attention it deserves until it is too late.

33 posted on 12/20/2003 10:00:48 PM PST by NYC GOP Chick (Kaddafi is such a whack job that he never promoted himself past Colonel!)
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To: RussianConservative
If you dont think Putin elimanted all forms of the free press unless its some Pro-Putin propagandist rag then you are a stooge!
34 posted on 12/20/2003 10:47:54 PM PST by chudogg (www.chudogg.blogspot.com)
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To: chudogg
Then you know not what you are talking about. There are many tv, radio and print media criticisms of government that much more vicious then main line US. As for "free", MediaMost and NTV were anything but free. They owned by oligarchs (Berezovsky and Guisnsky ) and nothing but mouth pieces for their political party: the rape and theft party...so loved by West....but funny West so hate Soros their friend...oh that right, because Soros rape West so he's bad but Oligarchs rape Russia so they good....there is word for such views.
35 posted on 12/20/2003 11:55:43 PM PST by RussianConservative (Xristos: the Light of the World)
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To: NYC GOP Chick; Mr. Mojo
As you can tell, I agree 100% with your statements. I think its a war supported by evil. The enemy gets support from all the liberal groups in this country, including my liberal church. We're told we must understand them and learn their culture. We all may learn it the hard way.

I'd like nothing less then see them purged from this orb.

36 posted on 12/21/2003 7:47:15 AM PST by Archie Bunker on steroids
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