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1 posted on 12/19/2003 12:07:24 AM PST by Junior_G
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We have quite a few black families on our street, and not a one of them celebrates Kwanzaa (to my knowledge). However, they all have Christmas lights and decor adorning their homes at this very moment. The only time I have ever heard any of the children of these families mention Kwanzaa celebrations is regarding parties or crafts made at publik skrewl. (Your tax dollars at work)
77 posted on 12/19/2003 3:12:49 AM PST by shezza
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Christmas and Hanukkah both have rich histories to back them up, and millions of people celebrate these holidays worldwide

But, if truth be known, Hanukkah derives most of its importance from its proximity to Christmas and became a big deal only to rapidly assimilating American Jews in the 1950s.

"Kwanzaa" is of course a complete fraud, and no, nobody celebrates it except public employees.

79 posted on 12/19/2003 3:19:48 AM PST by Jim Noble
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Bump for later
85 posted on 12/19/2003 3:38:26 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (France delenda est)
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I know of a small handful of people who celebrate it outright, blissfully ignorant of the history behind it.

Of course, most of THOSE are people who would sooner see me killed for my views as well...

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87 posted on 12/19/2003 3:47:21 AM PST by mhking (Bud Light salutes Real Men of Genius: Mr. Silent Killer Gas Passer...)
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The greeting card manufacturers celebrate it. Particularly HALLMARK, famous for backing the "made for sheep-TV" smear job on Ronnie & Nancy.
88 posted on 12/19/2003 3:50:35 AM PST by chilepepper (The map is not the territory -- Alfred Korzybski)
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Well...............

I don't know about kwanzaa....................

There is a holiday celebrated by WhiteGuys.............

We call it HappyHourDay.

It has a rich tradition going back several years..............

We celebrate it numerous times each year, it occurs on the last work day before any of "other" holidays.

WhiteGuys from around the world gather at bars and taverns to celebrate their culture and enjoy the traditions of sucking beer and chowing wings instead of working.

This coming Tuesday is the next observance of HappyHourDay.......I'm think I'll celebrate at BW3 on Bethel Rd.

I just wish my boss would stop oppressing me over my faith......

He doesn't understand the importance of HappyHourDay to my people.
89 posted on 12/19/2003 3:53:43 AM PST by WhiteGuy (Congress shall make no law... abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press...)
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(humming Kwanzaa carols at my keyboard as I type)
91 posted on 12/19/2003 4:02:20 AM PST by InvisibleChurch (George Bailey: You call this a happy family? Why do we have to have all these kids?)
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Swahili is a East African dialect which was foreign to most slaves since they came from West Africa. Oh well, I suppose it makes as much sense as the rest of the holiday.
92 posted on 12/19/2003 4:06:23 AM PST by JoeGar
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Kwanza is celebrated by dozens (ok, maybe not that many) of far left wing liberals around the country.
94 posted on 12/19/2003 5:13:58 AM PST by Bubba_Leroy
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Kwanzaa is hate.

It's was created by a professor in southern california on fraudlent cultural principles, designed to "de-whitetise chrimas" according to Al Sharpton in the NY Times.
99 posted on 12/19/2003 5:48:30 AM PST by Vision
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Well, the Brits celebrate the first day of Kwanzaa, but not because it's Kwanzaa - it's Boxing Day.

I celebrate it because it's my birfday. I'm thinking of calling it brewcrewzaapalooza.

100 posted on 12/19/2003 5:51:25 AM PST by brewcrew
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You asked for it. I'm on my PocketPC right now, but when I have access to my PC and my Kwanzaa link list, I will post it.

Ron Everett (aka. Maulana Karenga), the leader of a violent racist gang of black Marxist thugs called US attempted to create a religion called Kawaida. Kwanzaa is an offshoot of that religion. Both were intended as an alternative to Christianity, which Everett (aka. Maulana) calls "spookism".

The racist observance was invented around the same time Everett was in prison for torturing two teenage girls. Everett and an associate had suspected the girls, who lived in a commune with him, of putting "crystals" in his food and had tortured the girls overnight by forcing them to disrobe, eat caustic detergeant, putting their toes in a vice, whipping them with an extension cord, and burning them and their various orifices with a soldering iron. He did at least 5 years in prison for this crime.

Later, at a meeting in a UCLA student union lunch room about who would run the new black studies program, some members of the rival Black Panthers heckled Everett during his presentation. After the meeting, Everett's gang shot and killed 2 of those same Panthers before they could leave the building.

Everett went on to capitalize on his violent, racist history and tendencies and his Marxist worldview (he is a self-described Marxist) to qualify for the position, which he hold to this day, of head of the black studies program at UC-Long Beack.

Kwanzaa was designed to spread Everett's bizarre religious and Marxist beliefs. It is a sham. There is no harvest nor harvest festival in December in Africa. No tribe in Africa celebrates anything remotely similar. Only a small piece of Africa knows Swahili. Maize is not an African crop. Etc. You should have the picture by now.

The 7 themes or ideas of Kwanzaa are racially/culturally divisive and even Marxist by design. They are the same identical tenets used by the Symbianese Liberation Army, the terrorist group who kidnapped Patty Hearst and murdered at least one security guard.

Rotten man. Rotten holiday. Rotten ideas.

101 posted on 12/19/2003 6:01:55 AM PST by Spiff (Have you committed one random act of thoughtcrime today?)
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After reading the first 100 or so posts and links, I must say this is quite a fascinating read. I didn't know much about Kwanzaa before, and now I know more than I'd ever want to. It occurs to me that this whole story could easily be right out of a Tom Wolfe novel. The tradgedy is that it is not fiction, it's true, all the way down to the convicted con man/sadist becoming chair of a black studies department in a state university. It could only happen in America, folks.
103 posted on 12/19/2003 6:15:33 AM PST by massadvj
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I'm white & proud and I demand to be able to celebrate Kawanza!
104 posted on 12/19/2003 6:20:02 AM PST by Delbert
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My girl is in first grade. I was checking her homework before it got turned in. One of the assignments was to correct the punctuation on the sentence "i will celebrate Kwanzaa".

My daughter fixed the punctuation but wrote, I will not celebrate Kwanzaa.".

I thought it was great that she had the presence of mind at 6 to recognize and reject indoctrination!!!!
108 posted on 12/19/2003 6:41:55 AM PST by DannyTN
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Kwanzaa is a total fraud.

No wonder Liberals celebrate it and their fellow-traveling Plantation Blacks jealously love it!

118 posted on 12/19/2003 7:29:50 AM PST by Gritty ("Americans should select and prefer Christians as their rulers."-John Jay{1st Supreme Court Justice})
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I just signed up for FR after lurking for years. This is my first response to a post but bear with me. I can say that no I don't celebrate this made up holiday. As a believer in Christ I my family and I celebrate Christmas!!
121 posted on 12/19/2003 7:42:50 AM PST by mcspur (I hope when I grow up that I will have a cool Tag Line)
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HaPPy RamaHannuKwanzMas!!!
126 posted on 12/19/2003 8:28:37 AM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Support Our Troops /~normsrevenge)
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For a list of Kwanzaa celebrations, go here:

http://www.tike.com/kceleb.htm
127 posted on 12/19/2003 8:42:54 AM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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My sil is Catholic, conservative, and black. She knows the history and doesn't celebrate Kwanza. She and my brother are faithful to the Faith and celebrate Christmas.
129 posted on 12/19/2003 9:04:28 AM PST by independentgrrl
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