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Sci Fi Channel-backed researcher sues NASA over UFO files
First Amendment Center Online ^
| Wednesday, December 17, 2003
| The Associated Press
Posted on 12/17/2003 6:09:59 PM PST by Momaw Nadon
PITTSBURGH A researcher backed by cable televisions Sci Fi Channel sued NASA for the release of records she contends the agency has of a UFO that reportedly crash landed and was recovered by government workers in southwestern Pennsylvania in 1965.
The lawsuit was filed Dec. 9 in U.S. District Court in Washington on behalf of Leslie Kean, a San Rafael, Calif., investigative reporter backed by the cable channel and a group called the Coalition for Freedom of Information.
Our lawsuit is aimed at getting NASA to tell the public what it knew and when it knew it, said Ed Rothschild, a lobbyist the Sci Fi Channel hired from the Washington firm PodestaMattoon, who is also identified as CFIs executive director. Former President Clintons one-time chief of staff John Podesta is backing the Sci Fi Channels efforts, and his brother, Anthony, is a principal in the lobbying firm hired by the channel.
Bob Jacobs, a NASA spokesman, said he was unaware of the lawsuit and could not comment.
The filing marked the 38th anniversary of the Kecksburg UFO incident, which occurred in the unincorporated hamlet about 30 miles southeast of Pittsburgh.
Witnesses described a fireball in the evening sky, and a metallic, acorn-shaped object about 12 to 15 feet high and 8 to 12 feet in diameter that landed in the woods, according to news media accounts in the Tribune-Review of Greensburg and other outlets at the time.
Military personnel quickly surrounded the site, removed the object, threatened residents who tried to inquire about it, and left later calling the object a meteor, according to news accounts.
James Romansky, 57, of Derry Township, was then a 19-year-old volunteer firefighter. He told the Associated Press that he was among those who drove to the landing site.
Now, Im prepared for a smashed-up airplane ... and Im thinking, What in the hell is this? Im looking for wings, propellers, motors, a fuselage but theres none of that, Romansky said. Theres no rivet marks on it, no weld marks on it, no windows, no doors no possible way of getting in and out of this thing that I seen.
There was writing on it, but not writing that you or I could understand. I always referred to it as something like the ancient Egyptian hieroglyphics. There was dots and dashes and circles, Romansky said.
The cable network announced in June that it was backing the effort to research the Kecksburg incident in promoting a documentary, Out of the Blue, which examined various UFO reports.
This should have been done a long time ago, Romansky said. The United States government has given us a snow job for the last God knows when. I cant understand it for the life of me. They cant come out and say its nothing because I was 10, 20 feet away from it.
Sci Fi Channel officials said theyre looking for an explanation of what occurred. Theyre also looking for viewers.
A November 2002 documentary on the suspected 1947 UFO crash in Roswell, N.M., was the highest-rated special in the networks 11-year history. It was seen by nearly 2.4 million people, or about 2 1/2times Sci Fis usual prime-time audience.
The lawsuit contends NASA has thwarted Keans efforts to retrieve official files on the incident by sending her irrelevant information or nothing in response to Freedom of Information Act requests.
TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; US: Pennsylvania; Unclassified
KEYWORDS: 1stamendment; alien; associatedpress; constitution; firstamendment; foia; incident; johnpodesta; kecksburg; lawsuit; lesliekean; nasa; pittsburgh; podesta; roswell; scifichannel; ufo
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To: Quix
Ping!
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posted on
12/17/2003 6:13:19 PM PST
by
Momaw Nadon
(Goals for 2004: Re-elect President Bush, over 60 Republicans in the Senate, and a Republican House.)
To: Momaw Nadon
Discussion: Some people need to grow the hell up and stop holding onto adult fairy tales.
There is no race of little gren men who know the secrets of interstellar travel, no secret spacecraft that'll help solve the mysteries of time and space, no alien bodies hidden in a far off out of sight US Military base.
All of this nonsense implying that Humans arent the beginning and end of God's plan for the universe.
News flash...we are it.
Maybe we could solve our own failures before chasing off after excuses for ourselves disguised as extra terrestrial haints.
-Life without Jesus.
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posted on
12/17/2003 6:16:26 PM PST
by
VaBthang4
("This is an outrage! I'm voting for Howard Dean!" -Loserdopians)
To: Momaw Nadon
If it happened, she's never going to get any information from NASA or anyone else.
Alien technology would be incredibly valuable. The records (if there are any) will never be - and should not be expected to be - released.
To: Momaw Nadon
THANKS.
I think the program has noted such suits recently.
Thanks for the ping.
Are you on my UFO ping list? Do you want to be?
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posted on
12/17/2003 6:20:26 PM PST
by
Quix
(Choose this day whom U will serve: Shrillery & demonic goons or The King of Kings and Lord of Lords)
To: Momaw Nadon
First of all, even if the documents exist, NASA will simply say, "What documents?".
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posted on
12/17/2003 6:36:49 PM PST
by
Blood of Tyrants
(Even if the government took all your earnings, you wouldn’t be, in its eyes, a slave.)
To: Momaw Nadon
The truth is out there.
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posted on
12/17/2003 6:39:11 PM PST
by
knak
(wasknaknowknid)
To: VaBthang4
Amen. IMHO, the alien crap was another plan of the evil one to get people distracted from church and Christ by believing in nonsense. When Christ raptures the church, the antichrist will claim that aliens were able to "beam them up" because their simple minded belief in silly religious superstitions. He will of course ignore that Muslims and Buddhists and others were left behind.
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posted on
12/17/2003 6:40:57 PM PST
by
Blood of Tyrants
(Even if the government took all your earnings, you wouldn’t be, in its eyes, a slave.)
To: Blood of Tyrants
Anything attempting to undermine the reality that we are the plan of the universe, intentionally created to display God's own righteousness and willingness to have us as His own Children, meant to rule over "all" His Creation [including the known universe] is straight outta the pit.
Any nitwit buying into UFO/Alien nonsense displays their own ignorance to the very foundation of human life....ironically, while they pretend to search for life somewhere else.
LOL
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posted on
12/17/2003 6:53:53 PM PST
by
VaBthang4
("This is an outrage! I'm voting for Howard Dean!" -Loserdopians)
To: Reactionary
The records (if there are any) will never be - and should not be expected to be - released. Why not?
10
posted on
12/17/2003 6:55:03 PM PST
by
Lucy Lake
(Spell check is a great invention, so are turn signals.)
To: RadioAstronomer
What do you make of this? Unknown? Truth? Fiction? Possible?
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posted on
12/17/2003 7:00:39 PM PST
by
Calpernia
(Innocence seldom utters outraged shrieks. Guilt does.)
To: VaBthang4
Though I agree with your criticism that those who look for UFOs for solutions/problems are victims, there is a great deal of unexplained evidence that warrants investigation.
Furthermore, it seems likely that our govt has already done a great deal of that.
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posted on
12/17/2003 7:03:18 PM PST
by
JmyBryan
To: grizzfan
"Why not?"
I've explained why. Alien technology, if it exists and is in our hands, would be incredibly valuable. The ability to advance thousands of years in technological development makes all this talk of FIOA and lawsuits merely naive chatter.
To: VaBthang4
News flash...we are it.
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posted on
12/17/2003 7:14:38 PM PST
by
Momaw Nadon
(Goals for 2004: Re-elect President Bush, over 60 Republicans in the Senate, and a Republican House.)
To: JmyBryan
Victims?
I didnt call them victims. Some maybe, most are willing dupes who if they are victims of anything...it'd be their own pride and vanity.
I'd rather investigate God's plan for my life instead of chasing the wind.
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posted on
12/17/2003 7:15:27 PM PST
by
VaBthang4
("This is an outrage! I'm voting for Howard Dean!" -Loserdopians)
To: Momaw Nadon
...God gave them dominion over "all" the works of His hand...
Grow up.
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posted on
12/17/2003 7:17:48 PM PST
by
VaBthang4
("This is an outrage! I'm voting for Howard Dean!" -Loserdopians)
To: Momaw Nadon
What strange logic these people possess. They think that UFOs only buzz around the United States and other major nations. What's more, they think that all nations on Earth can keep a
perfect conspiracy in hushing it all up when one crashes.
Geez, looks like these guys need a new hat. Here's some material for one that'd fit.
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posted on
12/17/2003 7:17:56 PM PST
by
Prime Choice
(Leftist opinions may be free, but I still feel like I'm getting ripped off every time I receive one.)
To: Reactionary
Alien technology, if it exists and is in our hands, would be incredibly valuable. Most of us would be happy to know if aliens exist, where their home is, and how long did it take to get here, what do they eat, etc; not everyone wants all the technical data.
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posted on
12/17/2003 7:24:27 PM PST
by
Lucy Lake
(Spell check is a great invention, so are turn signals.)
To: VaBthang4
The Bible doesn't have a whole lot of comment on extraterrestrial visitation.
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posted on
12/17/2003 7:24:45 PM PST
by
JmyBryan
To: VaBthang4
"Some people need to grow the hell up and stop holding onto adult fairy tales."![](http://users.wpi.edu/~gpm/images/pissed.jpg)
Don't hold back, vab, how do you really feel?
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