Long Beach "Large Caliber Ban" Defeated

NRA Members' Councils of California ^ | 12/17/2003 | NRA Members' Councils of California

[Mike Haas]

NRA Members' Councils of California

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NRA MEMBERS' COUNCILS OF CALIFORNIA
12/17/2003
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Long Beach "Large Caliber Ban" Defeated

On 11/4, the Long Beach City Council passed the FIRST READING of the .50 cal ban ordinance. However, the SECOND READING was voted down on 12/16, and the ordinance placed on "indefinite hold".

To quote one of NRA's attorneys, this vote represents "snatching victory from the jaws of defeat... Please now turn your attention to Contra Costa County, scheduled to consider it in January. We need to keep up the momentum!"

On the NRA Members' Council's email list this morning, NRA's top CA attorney Chuck Michel noted this victory has state-wide implications as another attack on .50-cals is expected from the legislature next year. 2003 marks the second year we've beaten back this atrocity at the state-level (this year it didn't even get out of committee!). These local defeats indicate gun control CAN be defeated whereever gun-owners work together to fight it - at the state OR local level. You can become more involved and hook-up with other NRA members in your area at:
http://NRAMembersCouncils.com/volunteer/

Chuck also reminds us to now focus on Contra Costa County, where the same ill-advised action is being attempted (and where a freshly-drafted county .50 ban has yet to emerge from the county attorney's office, now mysteriously delayed OVER TWO MONTHS!). See http://NRAMembersCouncils.com/contracosta/.

Gun-owners have definitely turned a corner in California - 2003 was the first time in over 5 years we've actually passed some pro-gun laws WHILE defeating the anti-gun ones. We even forced them to compromise on SB-489 (the only bad bill they were able to squeeze through - and it was close!). http://NRAMembersCouncils.com/caspecial/sum2003.shtml

More info at:

http://NRAMembersCouncils.com/legs.shtml
...and...
http://CalGunLaws.com/article-422.html

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[conservative golfer dude]

So you are telling me that my .50 cal muzzle loader should be band? With a magnum load it is traveling at about 1900fps big deal!

[DeathAngel]

My personal response to that all time stupid question by liberals:

Since when was "NEED" a required justification before possession of anything?

[Little Ray]

Because I can't find a 20mm.

[Darksheare]

That and my old 105mm howitzer from my days in uniform won't fit in my car.

[Abe Froman]

They don't "need" it......however the 2nd amendment made that fact entirely irrelevant. ;)

[Gritty]

why do people NEED a .50 cal

WHY do I NEED my GE electric range when an open camp fire can do the job?

WHY is it any business of anybody but myself. If I use it to rob my local bank they should put me in jail for the same number of years whether I am using a .25 Lorcin or a .50 Barrett!

WHY do busybodies care? That's the REAL question!

[gc4nra]

Way too heavy!

[gc4nra]

how about electricity? People got along fine without electricity for thousands and thousands of years.

[gc4nra]

how about electricity? People got along fine without electricity for thousands and thousands of years.

[45Auto]

Barrett M82A1

"Because big holes are almost always better."

[45Auto]

Barrett Model 99

[ezo4]

Because they are fun :o)

[45Auto]

Armalite AR-50

[paul51]

Because they are fun :o)

There we go. Good enough reason for me!

[SevenDaysInMay]

"Compelling State interest" is the '1984' contrived excuse by "government" to violate the only bilateral social constract, our RATIFIED Constitution, from which our government's actors, good and bad, derive any and all of their limited, temporary lawful powers.

Most arm's caliber larger tha ".50" is defined "by law" as a destructive device". Why? When did that that become 'Constitutional', violating our 2nd Amendment right to keep and bear arms? Because it is "the law" and a "compelling State interest"? Where is it in our RATIFIED Constitution?

For 70 years We the People have allowed and promoted Government to violate and undermine our only Constitution. Police powers of the State are meant by The State to overpower any civil rights of The People or of the Several States which created the limited federal government.

UnConstitutional Executive Orders, statutes, and court RULINGS do not make such "law" lawful. When it flies "prima facia" in the face of our only Constitution, our RATIFIED Constitution, no statute, president, court or SCOTUS can lawfully violate our only Constitution, without becoming outlaws - sedition.

Courts violating our Ratified Constitution is not "interpretation". No interpretation can rewrite our Constitution, our RATIFIED Constitution, THE Law of OUR Land. Our Constitution defines the only means of altering our Constituton and "by order of the court" is not one.

By Executive Order is not a permitted means of changing our Constitution either despite what all presidents since Wilson's 1917 'Emergency Powers Act', and Lincoln's kingship sanctions against The People, have serially schemed.

Sedition is sedition even if within the Trojan Horse of any courthouse, statehouse, or White House. Or is it treason, as practiced within the reign of XXX-42s? Even conspiracies among all three branches do not make sedition not sedition or treason not treason.

Sedition by order of the court is no less sedition. Martial law is not a power permitted within our Constitution, yet, many Executive Orders await - to be executed to nullify our lawful government's existance - forget your rights.

Elites know that the lessons taught by Gunny Hathcock were well learned by thousands of Americans, shooting skills well learned by millions of Americans, and Constitutional Rights well learned by tens of millions of armed Americans. Elites know that their assault gavels alone can not control the informed Armed American, pursuant to our Ratified Constitution. Elites thus move to criminalize what is clearly Constitutional, through statutes reinforced by rulings of influential courts, "controlling legal authority". Elites can never feel safe from We the People and the Several States until we are disarmed and they have their Pretorian Guards.

What you gonna do? Our Betters have spoken. Even our 14th Amendment's "equal protection" clause has been ruled not to apply to white men for another 20 years or so, by order of only 3 old men and 2 old women following EU and international law influences. Such unConstitutional ruling arrogance is open defiance against our Constitutional Republic. Our betters have spoken, again and again.

That sound of gavels is the sound of Trojan Horses charging across Concord Bridge to destroy Americans' ability to protect and defend our RATIFIED Constition against all enemies foreign and domestic. What you gonna do?

To challenge "the court" is to risk "contempt". To lock and load is against "the law". To defend against all enemies foreign and domestic is "our duty".

[neverdem]

"Obviously he was not lugging a 50 cal. around in the bush."

Somehow my mind conflated this extreme range sniping with the time he got a battalion or regimental commander.

[Eastbound]

"Way to heavy."

What I had in mind was . . . .