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Kidnapping in Candelaria (Mexican Army Troops Raid U.S. Town)
WorldNetDaily ^ | December 5, 2003 | Jon Dougherty

Posted on 12/17/2003 1:28:56 PM PST by Korth

Ever hear of a place called Candelaria, Texas? Few have, but it's the most recent battleground in the escalating border war between Mexico and the United States – the one officials on both sides of the Rio Grande try desperately to ignore, even as their own citizens become further entangled in a mess that gets worse by the month.

Details are sketchy, but they are clear enough to know that essentially this is what happened.

According to law-enforcement sources I spoke with, a squad of armed Mexican paramilitary police or soldiers crossed into the U.S. near Candelaria Nov. 24 around 5 p.m. and took a five-member family – a husband, a wife and three minor children – captive at gunpoint. The Mexicans then brought the American family back across the border into Mexico, where they held them for several hours.

Eventually the wife and children were released and the following day they reported the incident to local authorities, who then passed the buck to Washington, via the FBI. As of Dec. 3, sources say, the husband was still being held in Mexico.

Bear in mind this family was on their own property and were well inside the boundaries of the United States. They were shooting rabbits on their own land and, according to those in the know, were not threatening any Mexican military or police units and did not fire their weapons across the border.

Getting local authorities or the FBI to talk about this incident was virtually impossible, and that in an of itself should be an affront to every American, no matter where you live. That an entire family can be captured on U.S. soil by armed foreign insurgents is an outrage that should elicit threats of retaliation from the Oval Office all the way down to the park benches, barber shops and living rooms in every city across this great land.

But instead of outrage and threats of retaliation, our government and the useful idiots who serve Washington on the local level are instead harassing and arresting American landowners and volunteers who are furiously trying to stem the tide of illegal aliens, and now foreign incursions, into our country – a job Washington should be doing in their place.

Why did Mexican forces even cross into the U.S. and kidnap an American family? Maybe the answer is simple: Because they can.

Why are hundreds of thousands of U.S. troops overseas instead of on our borders, when we have foreign troops invading our soil and kidnapping our people? Maybe the answer is simple: Because few American powerbrokers give a hoot about the sanctity of U.S. borders.

Why are we not stomping the goose feathers out of Mexican President Vicente Fox for allowing these invasions to take place on a regular basis? Maybe the answer is simple: Because we'd have to stomp President Bush's behind as well – U.S. and Mexican leaders are equally responsible for neglecting borders and the conditions along them.

It should be noted this latest Mexican incursion was no accident. Mexican military and police cross into the United States all the time, according to federal and local authorities, as well as border residents. On occasion, Mexican forces have even fired upon easily recognizable U.S. Border Patrol agents along the border. Other times, U.S. authorities have simply spotted Mexican military and police personnel inside the United States.

Instead of arresting American volunteers who are working without assistance, without pay, without the luxury of government benefits, and with almost no support, Washington should be encouraging, supplying and training Americans willing to grab a rifle and stand a post on the border to prevent further outrages like this.

The same goes for tyrannical local authorities who retaliate against duty-bound Americans trying to stem this invasion. There is no way a three- or four-man sheriff's department can effectively serve the vast counties bordering Mexico, let alone spare personnel to intercept well-armed Mexican soldiers. Yet plenty of local yokels get upset when some "damned volunteer" shows up to help the very community the locals are there to serve. They should be organizing and managing these "posse" volunteers, not running them off or jailing them.

There was a time when Americans were expected to take up arms to defend themselves. If armed kidnappings and incursions by foreign personnel are being sanctioned by our own government, we've got enemies on both sides of the border.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: aliens; candelaria; constitution; freedom; immigration; liberty; mexico; texas; unitedstates
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1 posted on 12/17/2003 1:29:01 PM PST by Korth
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To: Korth
Please provide secondary confirming sources other than WND ... this sounds big, but I want more details.
2 posted on 12/17/2003 1:32:02 PM PST by BlueNgold (Feed the Tree .....)
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To: Korth
I hope the family shoots the mexican soldiers dead the next time they come calling.
3 posted on 12/17/2003 1:33:18 PM PST by Bikers4Bush (Bush and Co. are quickly convincing me that the Constitution Party is our only hope.)
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To: Korth
There's a lot of holes in this story. Why would Mexican police randomly take an American family away at gunpoint? What do they have to gain?
4 posted on 12/17/2003 1:36:39 PM PST by Modernman (I am Evil Homer, I am Evil Homer....)
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To: BlueNgold
It can't be very big or the government would take care of it, right?
6 posted on 12/17/2003 1:45:30 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Even if the government took all your earnings, you wouldn’t be, in its eyes, a slave.)
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To: Korth
I don't entirely disbelieve it, because there have been incidents in the past, but I agree that we need to see a better source.
7 posted on 12/17/2003 1:49:36 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Bikers4Bush
Sounds like a job for a militia.
8 posted on 12/17/2003 1:51:45 PM PST by expatpat
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To: BlueNgold
Newsmax.com has an update to the story. The father has since been released and is possibly a Mexican citizen.
9 posted on 12/17/2003 1:53:41 PM PST by candeee
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To: BlueNgold
Incidents like this happen all the time.
10 posted on 12/17/2003 1:55:43 PM PST by chudogg (www.chudogg.blogspot.com)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
That's an insulting generalization. I just have little faith in the reporting of Worldnetdaily.com. From what I have seen they have a tendency to overhype issues and to rush to get articles published before checking all of their facts. I simply want to see other sources which can confirm the details of this seemingly outrageous incident.
11 posted on 12/17/2003 2:01:00 PM PST by BlueNgold (Feed the Tree .....)
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To: Modernman
There's a lot of holes in this story. Why would Mexican police randomly take an American family away at gunpoint? What do they have to gain?

Drug wars are going on --- or maybe the family was working for one cartel and the police were providing protection for another. This isn't a typical American family out hunting rabbits together. Maybe one of those "dual-citizen" type families who had problems back in Mexico. I live near the border and the last thing I fear is the Mexican police coming over to get me while I'm minding my own business. There's obviously a history of at least the father with Mexico.

12 posted on 12/17/2003 2:02:47 PM PST by FITZ
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To: Korth
The irony of it is that over 100 years after the fact, the good people of Texas could still pick up their rifles and kick the s*it out of the Mexican Army. :^)
13 posted on 12/17/2003 2:15:09 PM PST by applemac_g4
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To: BlueNgold
Sigh. I guess that it is always necessary to put the </sarcasm> tag at the end.
14 posted on 12/17/2003 2:17:26 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Even if the government took all your earnings, you wouldn’t be, in its eyes, a slave.)
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To: Veracruz
To show who's boss.

A random family in the middle of nowhere? That just makes no sense. I'm betting the family and these guys have prior history involving drug-dealing or whatnot.

15 posted on 12/17/2003 2:19:58 PM PST by Modernman (I am Evil Homer, I am Evil Homer....)
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To: Korth
From the El Paso Times, 12/14/03

Mexican officers made arrest in U.S., boys say

The FBI office in El Paso has looked into the claims last month by a family of four in the border ranching community of Candelaria, Texas, that Mexico law enforcement officers crossed the Rio Grande into the United States to kidnap them, FBI officials said.

The alleged kidnapping took place Nov. 24, when Ladislao Rivas-Escarcega, 39, his wife and their two sons said they were shooting a .22-caliber rifle by the river.

It isn't clear how long the family was allegedly held in Mexico. After their release, the boys alerted officials at their Presidio school.

FBI officials said they have closed the case because the alleged victims were safe and because there were no other witnesses to the incident.

- Nothing to see here. Move along.

16 posted on 12/17/2003 2:22:29 PM PST by RandomUserName
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To: FITZ
Drug wars are going on --- or maybe the family was working for one cartel and the police were providing protection for another.

Freepers might want to believe that this is part of some Mexican conspiracy to terrorize law-abiding Americans. More likely, everyone involved in this incident (if it did actually happen) is dirty.

17 posted on 12/17/2003 2:22:34 PM PST by Modernman (I am Evil Homer, I am Evil Homer....)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
Maybe on the sarcasm tag ... apologies if I misunderstood ...

Some folks here seem to think that WND, Newsmax, and Debka are something just this side of Gospel, and I have trouble making that leap ... again, apologies.

18 posted on 12/17/2003 2:24:41 PM PST by BlueNgold (Feed the Tree .....)
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To: Korth
It does'nt matter WHY the mexican swine did this,they committed an illegal act.The only way this will ever stop is if the Americans get a belly full of our own stupid laws.
19 posted on 12/17/2003 2:24:48 PM PST by INSENSITIVE GUY
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To: Korth
Wow, I worked on a project in Candelaria six years ago putting outhouses in. A bunch of trailers and cinder-block "homes." There's a little foot bridge over the Rio Grande there where folks go back and forth. Never thought I'd ever see that place in the news. Probably the remotest place in Texas.
20 posted on 12/17/2003 2:33:16 PM PST by Guvmint_Cheese (Viva Terlingua!)
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