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HILLARY'S VEEPSTAKES
NY Post ^ | 12/17/66 | Dick Morris

Posted on 12/17/2003 4:25:00 AM PST by William McKinley

Edited on 05/26/2004 5:17:52 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

December 17, 2003 -- ESPECIALLY now that the capture of Saddam Hussein could turn the Iraq war into a positive for George Bush, Howard Dean may turn to Hillary Rodham Clinton to be his vice presidential candidate. And, especially now that Al Gore has un-retired, Hillary might just accept.


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TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2004; dickmorris; hillary; veep; vp
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I had supposed that this might happen, although for different reasons (by design rather than necessity).

Now that Dick Morris has suggested it, I am sure I was wrong and it will not happen.

1 posted on 12/17/2003 4:25:00 AM PST by William McKinley
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To: William McKinley
Head of the ticket or number two:

Hillary would mobilize the negative vote like no one else could.

2 posted on 12/17/2003 4:28:02 AM PST by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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To: William McKinley
LBJ: "Better to have 'em inside the tent pissing out than outside the tent pissing in."

On the other hand, I wouldn't want Hillary anywhere NEAR me if I were making a run for the Presidency. And that includes imagining myself as a wild-eyed Democrat like Dean.

3 posted on 12/17/2003 4:28:35 AM PST by MoralSense
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To: William McKinley
Heh heh. Well, the Morris endorsement of the idea does make it seem less likely...

But I think a Dean/Clinton ticket would have a decent shot at winning the general election, and pretty much any other ticket you could name does not. That alone might be enough to make it happen.

4 posted on 12/17/2003 4:29:22 AM PST by HarryCaul
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To: William McKinley
Her Heinous would never take the VP lot. Never!
5 posted on 12/17/2003 4:29:43 AM PST by Rummyfan
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To: Rummyfan
Make that: Her Heinous would never take the VP slot. Never!
6 posted on 12/17/2003 4:31:22 AM PST by Rummyfan
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To: William McKinley
It might end up with Dean running as VP with Hillary.
7 posted on 12/17/2003 4:31:25 AM PST by chainsaw
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To: William McKinley
Both theories make sense. The arguments against it are: 1) even though it will be Dean's defeat, it's still a certain defeat she'd be signing on to participate in, 2) her "broken promise" of staying in the Senate could haunt her in 2008.

I think the VP slot will be tempting for the Hildabeast, but she'll opt out.
8 posted on 12/17/2003 4:35:25 AM PST by samtheman
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To: William McKinley
I've been saying all along that the beast will run as VP in '04 to set herself up for '08.

It's gonna happen.

9 posted on 12/17/2003 4:37:37 AM PST by Pietro
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To: samtheman
Can she do like Leiberman and still run while maintaining her seat in the senate?
10 posted on 12/17/2003 4:37:52 AM PST by Caipirabob (Democrats.. Socialists..Commies..Traitors...Who can tell the difference?)
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To: samtheman
I think the 1) is mitigated though. Notice how on defense and security issues, she has come out way to the right of Dean. If there is an electoral debacle, she can come out and say that the failure happened because he didn't listen to her on the most important issues.

And 2) doesn't sway me because I have seen no evidence that broken promises ever haunt the Clintons, and I have seen little evidence that the public actually expects her to live up to her promise.

11 posted on 12/17/2003 4:39:35 AM PST by William McKinley
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To: Caipirabob
Sure she can keep her seat and run, but by running she's saying, "I'm willing to give up my seat if Dean and I win."

It's still a broken promise.
12 posted on 12/17/2003 4:40:19 AM PST by samtheman
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To: William McKinley
Howie ain't that dumb -- on the extremely slight possibility that he won, he'd have to walk around for the next four years wondering when he was going to commit Arkancide.
13 posted on 12/17/2003 4:41:07 AM PST by Ed_in_NJ
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To: William McKinley
You might be right. I don't pretend to be able to imagine what goes on inside the "mind" of a Hildabeast.

Here's a question: If this does happen, will it help Dean in the general election? The presumption is that it will. But I'm not so sure.
14 posted on 12/17/2003 4:42:10 AM PST by samtheman
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To: samtheman
LOL Like I can fathom what she thinks. I have a better grip on what goes through the mind of an insane alzheimer's afflicted rabid pit bull on acid.

I don't know if it would help him or not. It would solidify the Democrats and help their turnout. It would also solidify the Republicans and help their turnout. I am not sure how it would play with the 'mushy middle', which everyone thinks wins elections but usually does NOT (usually turnout of the core does) but in such a case might actually be the decisive element. Plus, more important is how it would impact individual states, and I have no clue of that.

15 posted on 12/17/2003 4:48:16 AM PST by William McKinley
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To: samtheman
Yes, from Dean's point of view, how would Hillary as VP help him? A Hillary VP nomination would energize Republicans like nothing else, and might end up costing Dean more votes than he would gain with her.
16 posted on 12/17/2003 4:50:39 AM PST by IndyTiger
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To: IndyTiger
You have to think that Dean would want a Southern conservative. If he can get one.
17 posted on 12/17/2003 4:54:03 AM PST by samtheman
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To: William McKinley
Dean may be naive, but I can't believe even he is THAT naive. His life expectancy, should he win with Hillary as VP, would be measured in microseconds.
18 posted on 12/17/2003 4:54:28 AM PST by thoughtomator (The Federal judiciary is a terrorist organization)
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To: William McKinley
Morris is nuts.

Shrillary will be caught in the Oval Office going Monica on Dubya before she would consent to being Dean's running mate.
19 posted on 12/17/2003 4:56:23 AM PST by You Dirty Rats
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To: MoralSense
I wouldn't want Hillary anywhere NEAR me if I were making a run for the Presidency.

If they run together, with her as VP, about 9 nonths after his inauguration he'll go down in a mysterious plane crash.

Who would run with her?

20 posted on 12/17/2003 4:59:30 AM PST by thesummerwind (like painted kites, those days and nights, they went flyin' by)
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