Posted on 12/11/2003 7:55:35 AM PST by Mr. Silverback
But the reality is that more married women work outside the home than ever before. My grandmother has worked in 50 years- she worked while she was married for the first four year, then when she and my grandfather started a family she stayed at home and has been a housewife ever since. This was in 1953- today that is nearly unheard of. Most women who stay at home with their children go back to work at some point. Alimony is harder to get now than it was in the past- women are expected to support themselves.
No, why would men develop a system of laws that penalizes them simply because they are men? Men may have passed these laws, but it was not at the behest of other men. It was through lobbying, NOW, feminist marches and journalistic license with various accusations and threats that these bills became law.
Because you'll eventually get older and more cynical until you become a cranky old man, and then you'll really have a hard time finding a partner for short term gratification.
You're a starry-eyed optimist. There, I said it. :-P
Now, I too would like to think there are nice conservative women out there, ready for a lifelong relationship in which divorce is not an option. In my experience, I have seen a lot of sickness out there in this society, most coming from a lack of respect. A lot of folks out there seem to lack basic respect for themselves, for others, for family, and for our heritage. All of this I think is a result of a society that caves under the pressure of socialism and political correctness. We have become afraid to stand up and proclaim what is right, and what is wrong. Until we make a stand, this problem can only get worse.
With that being said, I believe my chances of finding someone compatible are slim to none, and that the "perfect" woman is just a fantasy. I realize that marriage and relationships are hard work, sometimes causing problems in need of two dedicated people to work through them. But it seems like most people out there are quick to blame others for their own problems and do not want to take responsibility for anything.
You said that marriage is not just about sex or kids. The truth is that people are selfishly going into the union without any concept of the big picture.
If the laws and courts were not so biased against men and in favor of women, women wouldn't be the one's filing for divorce in 2/3 of the cases. I used to work for a few divorce lawyers. I've seen what happens, to whom it happens, and how often if happens. I've seen judges tell men that they are not going to get custody of their kids because they are men. But no one cares until it happens to them.
The birth rate in this country isn't dropping for no reason at all. Every year more men wake up to the fact that getting married and starting a family is to risky. I'm just glad I have a daughter, because she will never be subjected to the double standards and outright hostility that men are by the system.
Whoa there, partner.... you are missing some key contributors here. The Equal Rights Ammendment, National Organization of Women, the whole femin-nazi movement, thousands of op-ed works, personal attacks on anyone who argued against these bills both in the papers, and on TV. I am unaware of any men's movements endorsing and submitting bills that would cut their own throats.
There's precious little of it being used too.
And what's wrong with playing D&D?
But I think I can explain why people who still play D&D are not party people with this quote from a someone I knew in college: "We used to play D&D until we discovered beer." I'd also advise conservative women stay away from leftist gamers. They can get pretty darned strange.
This OPTION that is available only to women, is due to several other issues. In the 50's the American culture placed social pressures on men to support their wife at home, a man who had a working wife was less of a 'man' back then. Also, the tax shelters in the 50's allowed families to tax shelter nearly 65% of their income (deductions on interest, license costs, taxes already paid on - sales tax) plus an overall lower tax rate. People kept more of what they earned, so the wife's income wasn't as necessary as it is today.
Also, the quantity of luxury items made freely available today, and the desire to have them; has meant that couples both work to afford these things.
You get burned a few dozen times, and you start to realize that women are pigs for the most part. Nice looking pigs that you want to touch in an iterative process, but never, oh never live with.
That has to be one of the most distasteful, disrespectful comments I've ever heard.
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