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Nathaniel "Skippy" Jones devoted his life to his grandmother ("He's all I had," sobs granny)
The Cincinnati Enquirer On-Line ^ | Thursday, December 4, 2003 | Sharon Coolidge

Posted on 12/04/2003 5:21:57 PM PST by yankeedame

Thursday, December 4, 2003

Family says Jones was never violent

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He spent much time helping grandmother

By Sharon Coolidge
The Cincinnati Enquirer


The grandmother of Nathaniel Jones, Bessie Jones,
reacts during a press conference led
by attorney Ken Lawson (right).
(Michael E. Keating photo)
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A man who died in police custody Sunday morning was never violent, his family says.

In their first public comments Wednesday, the family of Nathaniel Jones say they believe six Cincinnati Police officers must have said or done something to make the 342-pound man lunge at them moments before they hit him with batons while trying to handcuff him.

The Hamilton County Coroner ruled Wednesday that the roughly three-minute struggle between Jones and police in a White Castle parking lot in North Avondale was the underlying cause of the 41-year-old Northside man's death.

Jones was unarmed at the time of the confrontation. The six officers involved in the incident have sterling performance records, city records show.

"Everyone who knew him, loved him," said his aunt, Diane Payton. "I have never seen him violent, I know the way he handled his children. This was just not him."

Payton, aunts and uncles and Jones' grandmother, Bessie Jones, talked about Jones at the office of attorney Ken Lawson. He said it's not yet been decided if the family will file a lawsuit in the death.

"We're sitting here because of a phone call calling for help because (White Castle employees) thought he was sick," Payton said. "Now he's dead."

Lawson pulled Bessie Jones close, putting his arm around her.

"This was a very traumatic week for the family," Lawson said. "Not only because of the loss, but because of some of the statements made by city leaders."

Specifically, Payton criticized Mayor Charlie Luken who she says called her nephew a "deadly weapon" because of his weight.

"He had bare hands, no gun, no bricks, no sticks, no nothing," she said. "All he had was his bare hands."

Lawson said his office will do an independent investigation by looking at how police and paramedics responded and interviewing witnesses at the restaurant, and will have an independent autopsy completed on Jones' body.

Lawson said city officials' early defense of the officers' actions might taint the investigations.

"That's wrong," he said. "It takes away from their investigative ability. To do it properly, they should not feel any pressure."

A father of two

Jones, who graduated from Woodward High School, was raised by his grandmother. His mother died three years ago. Bessie Jones said she doesn't know where his father is.

From an early age, family and friends called him Skip or Skipper because he loved peanut butter, Bessie Jones said.

The Northside man worked in residential group homes caring for handicapped people.

He has two children, Nathaniel "Nate" Jones, 14, and Tyrique, 12, who live in Cleveland with their mother.

"The kids knew who their dad was and they never wanted for anything," said Jeff Thompson, Jones' roommate.

Jones visited the children over Thanksgiving weekend, returning to his home Saturday morning.

Thompson said Jones took it extremely hard when his mother died. But he had since devoted his life to his grandmother - taking her to the grocery store, to do her laundry and helping her with whatever errands she needed done.

"He's all I had," Bessie Jones said breaking down in tears.

Thompson, 46, shared a Hansfield Street apartment with Jones for the past several weeks. He said the two were lifelong friends who looked out for each other. Thompson said he was currently going through some financial difficulty, and Jones had let him move in with him until Thompson could get back on his feet.

"He was my best friend. No, he was more like my little brother," Thompson said.

Bessie Jones said no matter how outraged people are by her grandson's death, anger and violence are not the answer.

"Let's be peaceful," she said. "We don't have to hurt one another. I don't care what color you are - love me and I'll love you."

Staff Writer Kevin Aldridge contributed.

E-mail scoolidge@enquirer.com


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Wow! This granny is some dresser! I don't think I ever saw my grandma in an all purple outfit complete with a mod 1960's style Carnaby (sp?) hat.

Also, I noticed that "Skippy" seems to have lost some weight. At first he was 400lbs. Then it became nearly 400lb. Then it became 350. Now it's 342lb. I wonder if he is getting a little taller as well?

And, finially, after reading this article and all these loving things about "Skippy" I found myself thinking: "How is it this guy didn't end up as pope?"

1 posted on 12/04/2003 5:21:58 PM PST by yankeedame
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To: yankeedame
did I miss something? No where in the article did they mention the drugs in his system. PCP, wet marijuana and all that... bad combo. Plus he was shown to have heart disease.
2 posted on 12/04/2003 5:27:35 PM PST by cyborg (mutt-american)
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To: yankeedame
I kept looking for the inevitable mention of his being an "Honor Student," to no avail.
3 posted on 12/04/2003 5:27:43 PM PST by martin_fierro (_____oooo_(_°_¿_°_)_oooo_____)
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To: yankeedame

4 posted on 12/04/2003 5:28:29 PM PST by Free ThinkerNY (((Don't buy BS)))
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To: yankeedame
The black community has a serious problem. They will rally behind even the worst criminal if he/she is black. Whites don't do that. Most white people want white criminals punished. Why do blacks make excuses for black criminals.
5 posted on 12/04/2003 5:31:53 PM PST by mrfixit514
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To: martin_fierro
GMTA, i was just going to post something about the honor student angle!!!
6 posted on 12/04/2003 5:33:24 PM PST by xsmommy
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To: mrfixit514
So you think the people you see on tv is the whole of the 'black community'? I disagree. I know white people who makes excuses for white criminals all the time. Why do people makes excuses for people AT ALL is beyond me.
7 posted on 12/04/2003 5:34:19 PM PST by cyborg (mutt-american)
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To: yankeedame
the family of Nathaniel Jones say they believe six Cincinnati Police officers must have said or done something to make the 342-pound man lunge at them

Yeah. They got in the way of his PCP binge and told him to get on the ground so they could handcuff him.

8 posted on 12/04/2003 5:34:31 PM PST by mrfixit514
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To: yankeedame
LOL! And how about that line, "All he had was his bare hands"?? At 400 lbs., that's freakin' ENOUGH!;)
9 posted on 12/04/2003 5:35:01 PM PST by Frank_2001
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To: cyborg
So what do you call the riots in LA and Ohio? I haven't seen any white people looting and burning when the police beat up or kill a white guy.
10 posted on 12/04/2003 5:36:52 PM PST by mrfixit514
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To: cyborg
Yeah, we all excused Clinton for his misdeeds because, after all, he's white.
11 posted on 12/04/2003 5:37:11 PM PST by 07055
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To: mrfixit514
Yeah again, that was every black person in America? I saw the same LA Riots. I know way more black people who go to work everyday just like everyone else. So white people don't fight in your neck of the woods. They sure do where I live.
12 posted on 12/04/2003 5:39:02 PM PST by cyborg (mutt-american)
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To: 07055
I think it was the crocodile tears over being the child of an alcoholic personally...lol
13 posted on 12/04/2003 5:40:03 PM PST by cyborg (mutt-american)
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To: yankeedame
First of all, I am sorry he is dead.

This guy was a walking ad for disfunction. He doesn't know his own dad, his own 2 kids live in another city (would they recognize him if they saw him?)he had PCP, alcohol and embalming fluid-laced marijuana in his system, he passed out in a restaurant parking lot and then he attacks cops who come to find out why he got tired so quickly.

Jeez, if so-called black leaders want respect, they should stop their knee-jerk defense of creeps like this.

By the way, who cares how friendly this guy was when he was sober? HE WAS ON PCP!!!!! That stuff would make Mother Theresa get up in someone's face.

14 posted on 12/04/2003 5:40:40 PM PST by keithtoo (DEAN - He's Dukaki-riffic!!!! - He's McGovern-ous!!! - He's Mondale-agorical!!!)
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The black community has a serious problem. They will rally behind even the worst criminal if he/she is black. Whites don't do that. Most white people want white criminals punished. Why do blacks make excuses for black criminals.

What's most perplexing is that blacks are far more likely to be victims of violent crimes than whites, statistically.

15 posted on 12/04/2003 5:41:39 PM PST by Trailerpark Badass
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To: yankeedame
Granny never thought she'd hit the big time, but her day has finally arrived.

'Round and 'round the Lawsuit Lottery goes, where she lands, nobody knows.
16 posted on 12/04/2003 5:42:13 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Drug prohibition laws help fund terrorism.)
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To: 07055
"Yeah, we all excused Clinton for his misdeeds because, after all, he's white.

You may have excused the sonofabitch...but most of us haven't...

Besides - you're forgetting Clinton's claim to be the first black president... so it's not certain if he was simply white trash or black trash.....

In ANY event -- he was trash...

Semper Fi

17 posted on 12/04/2003 5:42:41 PM PST by river rat (War works......It brings Peace... Give war a chance to destroy Jihadists...)
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To: keithtoo
Notice that they never addressed the drugs. Or his weight. People went nuts when the corner ruled it a homicide, but he had to, as it wasn't an accident and not a suicide. Of course they ignore the part where they said the cops shouldn't be held responsible.

18 posted on 12/04/2003 5:45:11 PM PST by cyborg (mutt-american)
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To: yankeedame
Thompson said he was currently going through some financial difficulty, and Jones had let him move in with him until Thompson could get back on his feet.

And, as we ALL know, whenever one is in "financial difficulty", one then goes out and gets COCAINE, PCP, and smokes a nice big SPLEEF dipped in FORMALDEHYDE! Not to mention at 350 lbs, (or WHATEVER he weighed), I don't think he had a salad at White Castle.

This stuff is free, right? After all, Maxine Waters says "Unca Sucka" been pushing this on Black folk...right?

20 posted on 12/04/2003 5:45:42 PM PST by Itzlzha (The avalanche has already started...it is too late for the pebbles to vote!)
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