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Limbaugh med records seized

Posted on 12/04/2003 9:51:01 AM PST by longtermmemmory

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To: Spunky
You and my 11 yr old grandson. That is about all he will eat. They have made him slightly pudgy. How about you?:-)

I could stand to lose.

But dressing in drag helps me mentally.

421 posted on 12/05/2003 5:09:34 AM PST by Lazamataz (In spite of the cost of living, it's still popular.)
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To: FreeReign
A fool's confidence is worth a hair on a rat's tail. So be yours.
422 posted on 12/05/2003 5:24:22 AM PST by bvw
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To: Spunky
On niacin. That's a vitamin. Vitamin B3. By prescription you can get a larger dose than is available over the counter -- that is per pill.

We all need niacin, if there is not enough in our normal diet then we need to supplement with vitamin pills. The talk show host Michael Savage, who has a doctorate in such matters, says folks of more years than forty, fifty or so (I don't remember his cut-off) should ALL be taking vitamin supplements.

The reason is a that as the body ages it is both less able to produce such vitamins as it can by itself, and less able to use the vitamins self-produced or supplied by diet in the cell's metabolisms. Taking vitamin supplements is a benefit to longevity and general health.

423 posted on 12/05/2003 5:34:45 AM PST by bvw
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To: VRWC_minion
"Going for the records indicates that they want to pursue whether B[R]ush lied to his doctors to acquire the drugs."

Oh and he'd be the first addict to EVER do something like that.

424 posted on 12/05/2003 6:16:15 AM PST by sweet_diane ("Will I dance for you Jesus? Or in awe of You be still? I can only imagine..I can only imagine.")
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To: Lazamataz
LOL!
425 posted on 12/05/2003 6:18:12 AM PST by Spunky (This little tag just keeps following me where ever I go.)
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To: bvw
By prescription you can get a larger dose than is available over the counter -- that is per pill."

Why not take two pills then?

I do take vitamin supplements, but how do you know if you are getting the right amount needed?

426 posted on 12/05/2003 6:24:42 AM PST by Spunky (This little tag just keeps following me where ever I go.)
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To: lawdude
the dea keeps tabs of all drug sales
was he double dipping ?
427 posted on 12/05/2003 6:30:55 AM PST by m_cord.
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To: B-Chan
I only disagree with you on one point:

“It was only oral sex, and, besides, he was lonely” sounds a lot like “it was only prescription drugs, and besides, he was in pain.”

Hurt and horney are not the same.

428 posted on 12/05/2003 7:26:56 AM PST by tsomer
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To: RebelBanker
As a retired physician, my prescription is to abolish the Federal Reserve and get the federal government out of the bank regulating business. In fact, it may take me a while and some serious thought to figure out whether there is anything that government is actually capable of regulating or at least regulating in a meaningful intelligent fashion. And I would certainly entertain suggestions from anyone.
429 posted on 12/05/2003 7:48:41 AM PST by Reagan Renaissance
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To: Central Scrutiniser
Rush is a pill head and a junkie, he has lied in the past, and I have zero confidence that he is telling the truth any more about this.

Yes. It's probably easier to tell porkies on the radio as no one can see those Lyin' Eyes.

Hopefully, the prison will have a radio station this hypocritical lying druggie can pontificate on.

430 posted on 12/05/2003 7:51:46 AM PST by jjbrouwer (Chelsea for the Champions League)
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To: longtermmemmory
Because Florida has such serious drug problems they have enacted tough laws in an effort to combat the problem.

Florida has made doctor shopping for narcotics a crime, albeit a misdemeanor.

I believe there are few if any other states with the same law but this has been part of Florida's attempt to clean up their state.

On another topic altogether, I suspect that a big part of Rush's back pain could have been aleviated if he had lost weight OR not gotten so overweight in the first place. His lack of self discipline appears to be part of his problem.

431 posted on 12/05/2003 7:53:43 AM PST by OldFriend (DEMS INHABIT A PARALLEL UNIVERSE)
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To: Central Scrutiniser; Lazamataz
Laz is right. CS's diatribe brings to mind an analogy, "Hell hath no fury..."

There will be very few conservatives that are not sorely disappointed that Rush pulled himself down off the pedestal. But you are making a grave mistake that conservative views and values are tarnished because human beings have trouble living up to them. Rush didn't climb up on the pedestal; his listeners put him there. And they put him there because the views and values that he expressed was the only public source that validated what the listeners valued and believed. Rush's success is based on the fact that he was the best mirror of what his listeners believe and wanted to see or hear validated.

CS, the best vantage point for scrutinizing is the higher ground, but it is hard to see that looking at the world from your own central hole.

432 posted on 12/05/2003 8:20:02 AM PST by Reagan Renaissance
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To: Spunky
(1) Exactly.

(2) That's a 64,000 dollar question. I go by how I feel an hour and two after. And adjust based on strenuous activity or a cold/flu (more C & E).If I don't feel better, I change my vitamins or skip them.

The big answer is we need more front line nutitional therapists. By "front line" I mean people should be seeing a nutritional therapist every three months afther age 40 until they get settled in a program, and then every few years.

Most sickness and ill-feeling -- including drug abuse -- can be helped with proper nutrition.

433 posted on 12/05/2003 8:26:45 AM PST by bvw
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To: bvw
There is no "MORAL" relativism here.

You bring up the consumption of alcohol and caffeine, which have nothing to do with whether Rush Limbaugh illegally obtained prescription drugs to support his addiction to those drugs. Here is the moral relativism I have seen expressed by Rushbots on this site:
The bitch set him up.
No one ever gets prosecuted for violating these kinds of laws.
He wasn't hurting anybody else.
It's just a vast left-wing conspiracy to get him
You can't believe what you read in the National Enquirer.
A person in such a powerful and public position and as smart as he is would never commit such petty criminal acts.
You can't trust someone who would betray the person they work for.
That evidence will never hold up in court, so he's legally off the hook.

Do those defenses sound familiar? Some Freepers have stolen the Democract playbook and are shamelessly copying it to the letter.
434 posted on 12/05/2003 8:44:29 AM PST by drjimmy
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To: Spunky
I do take vitamin supplements, but how do you know if you are getting the right amount needed?

Ask your doctor, but don't count on his response to be the "final answer." Some vitamins previously recommended (vitamin E) are now being discontinued by docs because of study results. As for the increased doses of niacin, it's for additional lipid lowering when used in combination with another anticholesterol agent. The high doses do have side effects and no one should be self-medicating without advice from a physician.

435 posted on 12/05/2003 8:52:06 AM PST by Spyder (Just another day in Paradise)
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To: drjimmy
Okay, "Doc", I really would not want to be the patient coming into your clinic. You have an incureable intellectual myopia.

What points DID I address in my post? What was the core of the argument I made?

You missed it all.

I don't think you understand morality and if you don't understand morality, why no one in such condition can hope to make sense of LAW.

436 posted on 12/05/2003 9:02:52 AM PST by bvw
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To: bvw
What points DID I address in my post? What was the core of the argument I made?

The core of your argument was that drinking alcohol and taking drugs are not immoral, drinking too much caffeine is bad for your health, and it is okay to sometimes break the law because a sign that says "No Negroes" is immoral.

Your statement that alcohol and drug consumption is not immoral is your opinion, not some established fact. Many people hold a different opinion, and with regard to drugs, most conservatives hold a different opinion. No one is investigating whether Rush Limbaugh paid his maid to buy alcohol or caffeine from some dealer in a parking lot, so those particular drugs are irrelevant to this issue.

It is laughable to compare Rush's plight with someone who would defy a "No Negroes" sign. In one case, it is a moral imperative to defy a clearly immoral law. If Rush had a moral imperative to obtain drugs illegally, I'd be interested in hearing his (or your) explanation.

The bottom line is that you entirely missed the point of MY posts. I wasn't ragging on Rush for using drugs. I was ragging on his defenders who use the same arguments to defend him that Democrats have used to defend Clinton and his ilk. That's the moral relativism.
437 posted on 12/05/2003 9:26:57 AM PST by drjimmy
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To: drjimmy
it is a moral imperative to defy a clearly immoral law.

Not in all cases. This being one. Here's another. The laws in Massechusetts that will come about beacuse of that wild State Supreme Court ruling will be immoral laws. Yet how does one defy them?

Total prohibition is immoral. Why? Because morality requires, at times, drinking. What? That is you've already said "What?!" to that assertion.

But there it is in Genesis. Noah's grapes, Noah's wine. To drink an appropriate amount of wine at times is a moral action, and it is a religious obligation.

Do you divorce morality from the Creator's Law, like some secularist? If so, by such libertarian impulse, surely you'd find that a total prohibition is immoral, even on a libertarian or secularist's "morality".

If not, howso? What a confused muddle of morality you'd then have-- and by that muddle where clarity is required -- an immoral "morality".

The Prophet and King Solomon -- a most wise man -- tells us "There is a time and a place for everything under the sun." Under a total prohibition, G-d's full bounty "under the sun" is denied, is impaired. A denial of G-d, in effect. That is immoral.

Is a partial prohibition moral? Sure. Is tis case one? In my read, no. Immodesty is imoral, and a Government that looks over the shoulder of every action of adult men and women is by that immodest, disrepectful oversight, immoral.

And our FEDERAL government is bound and limited by honest contract, by charter, by it's LIMITED charter. We call that charter, that limited charter -- the Constitution. It has been seriously run afoul of, been broken by those in power. All branches, unfortunately. Hardly a Federal Pensioned Soul respects the limitations, nor respects to adequate degree the due regard to the free and private actions of adults in our Republic.

Why the PROSECUTORIAL class brag as to how they can "Indict a Ham Sandwich"! There's a clue of tyrannnic impulse where we need it least. The fruit of the damn "drug wars".

438 posted on 12/05/2003 10:09:41 AM PST by bvw
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To: technomage
The National Enquirer fabricate something? Or course not. / sarcasm>

Yep, everything is a fabrication by the National Enquirer

"Fabricated" medical records, e-mails and answering-machine tapes
From March to September, Limbaugh picked up 1,733 hydrocodone pills, 90 OxyContin pills, 50 Xanax tablets and 40 pills of Kadian -- time-release morphine, search warrant records show. The court documents indicate that sometimes less than a week would lapse between him getting different doctors' prescriptions for the painkillers.

"Doctor shopping" is a third-degree felony under Florida law, punishable by up to five years in prison.

Limbaugh first came to authorities' attention in December 2002 when his former housekeeper, Wilma Cline, and her husband, David Cline, met with the State Attorney's Anti-Money Laundering Task Force and the FBI, according to the search warrants."The Clines advised they have been selling Rush Limbaugh large quantities of hydrocodone, OxyContin and other pharmaceutical drugs in Palm Beach County over the course of many years," the search warrants state. "The Clines made a taped statement, providing answering machine tape recordings and electronic mail in support of their information."

The Clines also provided authorities with the name of another person who allegedly sold Limbaugh most of his drugs, according to court records.


439 posted on 12/05/2003 10:32:18 AM PST by george wythe
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To: drjimmy
Here is the moral relativism I have seen expressed by Rushbots on this site:
The bitch set him up.
No one ever gets prosecuted for violating these kinds of laws.
He wasn't hurting anybody else.
It's just a vast left-wing conspiracy to get him
You can't believe what you read in the National Enquirer.
A person in such a powerful and public position and as smart as he is would never commit such petty criminal acts.
You can't trust someone who would betray the person they work for.
That evidence will never hold up in court, so he's legally off the hook.

Do those defenses sound familiar? Some Freepers have stolen the Democract playbook and are shamelessly copying it to the letter.
Great post. I love Rush, but I'm not sticking my head in the sand. Conservatives deal with facts, even ugly facts.
440 posted on 12/05/2003 10:42:17 AM PST by george wythe
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