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China Warns U.S.: War or Peace
Newsmax ^ | Thursday, Dec. 4, 2003 | Charles R. Smith

Posted on 12/04/2003 7:21:36 AM PST by Rams82

Threatens Trade War and End to Korean Peace Talks

China is warning the United States to make a choice between South Korea and Taiwan. The warning is a veiled threat of a choice between war and peace in Asia.

On Dec. 9, Chinese Premier Wen Jiabao is scheduled to visit the White House. Wen is expected to demand that the U.S. end its support of Taiwan. If no such U.S. cooperation is forthcoming, then China is threatening to impose stiff tariffs on U.S.-made goods and to cancel the five-way peace talks with North Korea.

China also told Taiwan it ran the risk of war if it pushed toward independence. Beijing wants to prevent the Taiwanese from voting on a choice between joining the communist mainland or seeking independence.

The official China Daily stated that U.S.-Sino relations were at an all-time high but added that the relationship was being risked by "renegade" forces. The China Daily also said China and America shared trade and strategic interests that were being threatened by the move toward independence in Taiwan.

"The ambiguous U.S. strategy across the Taiwan Straits only serves to encourage the island's separatists and jeopardize the one-China policy as well as the political foundation of Sino-U.S. relations," stated the Chinese diplomats.

China also warned the United States to stop selling weapons to Taiwan and to honor its commitment to the "one-China" policy.

"Only by doing so can the interests of both China and the United States be safeguarded and peace and stability across the Taiwan Straits be maintained," stated the Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman.

Crisis in Asia

Despite the warning, the Taiwanese Parliament passed a bill allowing the people to vote in an open election to choose between communist rule and independence. The warning from Beijing also brought swift reaction from U.S. sources.

"There are now two rapidly intersecting dangers for Taiwan and America. First, the PRC [People’s Republic of China, or communist China] appears to be preparing for some kind of use of force in the wake of the Taiwan Referendum bill's passage. It could be intimidation, or it could also be much worse," stated Rick Fisher, a Senior Fellow at the Jamestown Foundation.

"Second, there are forces in the Bush White House who believe that use of force against Taiwan, or indeed a war, can be avoided by giving Beijing a concession, let’s say publicly disavowing U.S. protection for Taiwan if it pursues independence," stated Fisher.

"On top of all else, we now have the prospects for a real crisis on the Taiwan Strait. It is also necessary more than ever that the U.S. stand firm and not buckle in the face of threats by dictators. No amount of concessions by the U.S. can stop the war for which China is preparing against Taiwan. We have to make crystal clear to the Communist dictators in Beijing that their dictatorship will end if they kill the democracy on Taiwan. If we can't make that message stick, then America will suffer enormous consequences," concluded Fisher.

Beijing Promises

Despite the harsh rhetoric from Beijing, there is ample evidence that China is unwilling to adhere to any peace agreements. For over a decade China has stated that it would live up to its treaty commitments and not export ballistic missile technology.

China was sanctioned by the Bush Sr. administration in 1992 for selling nuclear-tipped M-11 missiles to Pakistan. The Clinton administration lifted most of the sanctions in 1993 and 1994 after Beijing agreed to cease its exports.

However, China did not stop selling M-11 missiles to Pakistan and began to expand its exports to include Iran, Iraq, Libya, Syria, Afghanistan and North Korea. Although the Clinton administration warned China to adhere to its international treaties, the White House did nothing to sanction Beijing for the missile sales.

In June 2003, President George W. Bush imposed strict sanctions against China for exporting ballistic missile parts and technology to Iran. The sanctions include a total ban on imports from Norinco, a major Chinese arms company, and a continuation of the ban on satellite and space technology sales to Beijing.

Chinese Missile Exports

The Central Intelligence Agency's most recent report to Congress has painted an alarming picture of growing ballistic missile capabilities among American adversaries, fueled by Beijing.

The CIA report, which covers international ballistic missile developments from January to June 2003, lists Iran, North Korea and Libya as primary states of missile concern.

Iran, the report states, has continued to receive assistance in missile "equipment, technology, and expertise" from China, North Korea and Russia.

"Libya continued to depend on foreign assistance – particularly from Serbian, Indian, Iranian, North Korean, and Chinese entities – for its ballistic missile development programs," the report states.

According to the CIA, North Korea has advanced its long-range ballistic missile capabilities, and its "multiple-stage Taepo Dong-2 – capable of reaching parts of the United States with a nuclear weapon-sized payload – may be ready for flight-testing."

Space Mission Prelude to War

In addition to selling ballistic missile technology to Pyongyang, Beijing is also expected to share its space technology with North Korea.

The film-return capsule of the so-called "peaceful" Chinese FSW-18 satellite arrived on Earth on Nov. 21. The FSW-18 capsule was recovered by the People's Liberation Army (PLA) in central Sichuan province after spending 18 days in space photographing Taiwan, Japan and the Korean peninsula.

The FSW-18, touted by Beijing as a peaceful civilian research satellite, was actually a medium-resolution Chinese army reconnaissance satellite. The images of Taiwanese, Japanese, South Korean and U.S. defenses are intended to update the PLA target database.

Beijing is expected to share the photographs with North Korean dictator Kim Jung-il. The photos will allow both China and North Korea to more accurately target missiles against allied forces in Asia.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: china; korea; taiwan
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To: Rams82
The last gasp of the Mao Revolution era grandfathers. Once they have finally died of old age then the young people can settle down to ordinary lives.
81 posted on 12/04/2003 12:37:29 PM PST by RightWhale (Close your tag lines)
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To: kabar
I don't have time now (have to get back to work) but I will look into it more later on this evening.

You sound like you are right on...I don't know about the 4th or 5th statement either.

If we are combining then we can make some helluva bad ass combinations to prove our point...

China is a relatively small market. Yep.

82 posted on 12/04/2003 12:38:51 PM PST by maui_hawaii
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To: Rams82
Everyone examine all the gifts you plan on purchasing this holiday season. If it says "made in China" or made in France, Germany, etc., buy something else.
83 posted on 12/04/2003 12:40:38 PM PST by manic4organic (An organic conservative)
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To: taiwansemi
Well hey it's formosaplastics back from the grave! How are you doing buddy, still shilling for the good old People's Republic eh?
84 posted on 12/04/2003 12:43:01 PM PST by Chaseman
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To: Rocky Mountain High
Figures like exports aren't possible to cook up and get away with - your trading partners can verify them. The corruption in China is indeed staggering. But unlike corruption in, say, Africa, it's not characterized by a complete draining of money into unproductive hands. Well-connected people don't pay off their loans but that doesn't mean they're only spending the money on themselves. In many cases, a state-owned enterprise is used as a front to siphon off government funds to more lucrative private ventures.
86 posted on 12/04/2003 3:38:19 PM PST by Filibuster_60
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To: Filibuster_60
Interesting observation.
87 posted on 12/04/2003 4:04:45 PM PST by Rocky Mountain High
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To: Rams82
Tell the Communist butchers to bring it on. We'll see what a 20-megaton airburst over Beijing will do for an attitude adjustment.
88 posted on 12/04/2003 6:39:55 PM PST by Conservative til I die
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To: Rams82
"Second, there are forces in the Bush White House who believe that use of force against Taiwan, or indeed a war, can be avoided by giving Beijing a concession, let’s say publicly disavowing U.S. protection for Taiwan if it pursues independence," stated Fisher

Powell and Rove, is my guess. The chump and the panderer, respectively.
89 posted on 12/04/2003 6:44:38 PM PST by Conservative til I die
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To: american spirit
China's actions aren't some sort of referendum on free trade.
90 posted on 12/04/2003 6:58:20 PM PST by Conservative til I die
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To: Rams82; All
12/02/03
Ford may one day export vehicles from China
Reuters

Underscoring China's huge promise as a hub for global auto production, the head of Ford on Tuesday said the automaker expects to use about $1 billion in Chinese-made auto parts next year and may one day export finished cars from the country. Chairman and Chief Executive Bill Ford Jr. did not offer many details about the company's plans in China, but said almost all of its parts sourcing there would likely be for the vehicles it makes in its Chinese joint venture. U.S. automakers and parts suppliers have been racing to gain a foothold in the burgeoning Chinese car sector. They have established a number of joint ventures there, lured by the prospect of a growing middle class that has prospered as the Chinese economy sizzles. Car sales in China broke the 1 million mark for the first time in 2002 and are expected to double this year.

91 posted on 12/04/2003 6:59:32 PM PST by m18436572
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To: cars for sale
91% of China's total population does not know the earth is round....odd as that is,it is fact.

Where does that 'fact' come from? Source please. And what poll can be that accurate in a country of over 1 billion that has so little knowledge and sophistication as you say?

The last time you were in China was_? Which provinces? For how long? Meeting with _?

As you can tell I am skeptical when reading comments like yours. This is your chance to back them up or please don't spill that kind of stuff around here...

92 posted on 12/04/2003 7:11:22 PM PST by NewLand
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To: All
Attention all short-sighted investors in commie land (Walmart shoppers included). Each chinese communist product you buy pays for missiles and nukes aimed at you. Don't try to buy off the barbarians at the gate, follow Reagan's way and defeat them before they get stronger, appeasement leads to tragedy -- remember Munich
93 posted on 12/04/2003 11:48:23 PM PST by Cronos (W2004)
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To: taiwansemi
One thing is for sure: no country can maintain its dominance forever, especially one burdened with neverending, empire-killing war debts.

Empire? We're a democracy not an Imperial power. That's the difference between us and totalitarian regimes. A pretty BIG difference.
94 posted on 12/04/2003 11:49:41 PM PST by Cronos (W2004)
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To: All
Japan, S. Korea, Singapore are not official one-party states that crust any dissenting voices (Tianemen square).
95 posted on 12/04/2003 11:50:48 PM PST by Cronos (W2004)
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To: Rams82
Hey China .. Bug off

You have more to lose then we do
96 posted on 12/04/2003 11:51:47 PM PST by Mo1 (House Work, If you do it right , will kill you!)
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To: All
Japan, S. Korea, Singapore are not official one-party states that crust any dissenting voices (Tianemen square). A communist state is not pregressive, it treats its people like dirt (how many died due tot he Cultural revolution and how many died in Tianemen square?). We're bankrolling our enemies, both the slamofascists (though Dubya is taking care of that) and the communist Chinese
97 posted on 12/04/2003 11:53:00 PM PST by Cronos (W2004)
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To: maui_hawaii
Plus the PRC is a totalitarian regime. Even if tomorrow we dismantle their currency undervaluation, that does not mean chicoms will buy our goods. All it requires is for a official broadcast to go to the communist party members to 'disapprove' buying of American goods and it will stop. Japan, S. Korea etc. can't do that because they are democracies and they do have some semblance of human rights
98 posted on 12/04/2003 11:56:34 PM PST by Cronos (W2004)
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To: kabar
Exactly, people of Chinese origin are brilliants (as proved in our country, parts of Asia and in Taiwan),but the communist totalitarian regime frowns on individual brilliance -- it threatens the party.
99 posted on 12/04/2003 11:58:46 PM PST by Cronos (W2004)
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To: Chaseman
Well hey it's formosaplastics back from the grave! How are you doing buddy, still shilling for the good old People's Republic eh?

oh, the old Communist Heaven believer, eh? Like the paradise that was Romania, Poland etc. or the lands of milk and honey like Cuba, North Korea.
100 posted on 12/05/2003 12:00:38 AM PST by Cronos (W2004)
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