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Complaint says Santa unconstitutionally told kids the meaning of Christmas
KFVS ^ | December 3, 2003 | AP

Posted on 12/03/2003 3:52:05 PM PST by yonif

Baldwin City, Kansas-AP -- The American Civil Liberties Union is complaining about a minister dressed as Santa Claus who talked to public school kids about the meaning of Christmas.

The A-C-L-U has asked officials to investigate whether elementary schools in Baldwin City, Kansas, allowed a Santa Claus impersonator to discuss Christmas and refer students who seemed to need guidance to Christian resources.

School officials are divided over whether that made him a bad Santa, but the A-C-L-U says he clearly violated the separation of church and state.

Just to be safe, Superintendent Jim White says Santa probably won't be invited back.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events; US: Kansas
KEYWORDS: aclu; leftists; santa
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1 posted on 12/03/2003 3:52:05 PM PST by yonif
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To: yonif
allowed a Santa Claus impersonator

WHAT is that???

2 posted on 12/03/2003 3:53:25 PM PST by Pan_Yans Wife ("Your joy is your sorrow unmasked." --- GIBRAN)
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To: yonif
How true. We need Santas to fuel kids' greed for the latest/greatest toys and gadgets. God forbid (oops....................sorry...................I actually said "God") that we remind the kids what Christmas really is. Why, that is despicable. I'd rather see them thumbing through Abercrombie & Fitch catalogs than the dreaded Bible.
3 posted on 12/03/2003 3:54:29 PM PST by RightOnline
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To: Pan_Yans Wife
Why do they call is separation of church and state, when what they mean to say is "separation of state from church"?
4 posted on 12/03/2003 3:54:58 PM PST by Pan_Yans Wife ("Your joy is your sorrow unmasked." --- GIBRAN)
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To: yonif
INTREP - Woe to those who call "good" "evil," and "evil" "good"
5 posted on 12/03/2003 3:55:20 PM PST by LiteKeeper
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To: Pan_Yans Wife
A Santa impersonator-- What is that??

Great question. I am waiting for someone to enlighten me.


6 posted on 12/03/2003 3:58:27 PM PST by footstomper
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To: Pan_Yans Wife
....what they mean to say is "separation of state from church"

....and the separation of church from state.

7 posted on 12/03/2003 3:59:09 PM PST by Misterioso
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To: RightOnline
i hope your not seriously about the comment:

Why, that is despicable. I'd rather see them thumbing through Abercrombie & Fitch catalogs than the dreaded Bible.
8 posted on 12/03/2003 4:00:14 PM PST by im4given
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To: yonif
ACLU = secular Taliban.
9 posted on 12/03/2003 4:00:24 PM PST by verity
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To: yonif
We really don't celebrate Christmas in the United States anymore. We are fully in a post-Christian era. All that remains is this pseudo christmas full of secular fluff.
Really, do the easter bunny and santa clause or christmas trees or even material gifting have anything to do with the celebration of God's mission, sending Jesus Christ, His Son, to atone for our sins?
10 posted on 12/03/2003 4:01:09 PM PST by ThirstyMan
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To: Pan_Yans Wife
allowed a Santa Claus impersonator

WHAT is that???

LOL! Yeah, exactly what is that??

11 posted on 12/03/2003 4:01:34 PM PST by sirchtruth
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To: yonif
School officials are divided over whether that made him a bad Santa, but the A-C-L-U says he clearly violated the separation of church and state.

Rational people say the ACLU clearly doesn't know what it's talking about since Santa talking about Christmas isn't a church and a public school isn't a state.
12 posted on 12/03/2003 4:02:11 PM PST by aruanan
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To: yonif
Nation of whimps....
13 posted on 12/03/2003 4:02:56 PM PST by Rutles4Ever
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To: yonif
Isn't there any Conservative law groups that take on the ACLU?
14 posted on 12/03/2003 4:04:04 PM PST by bulldogs
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To: yonif
Do the letters ACLU now stand for Anti-Christian Leftist Union?

I suppose their next step is to remove Santa from their "Winter Holidays" because his name is derived from Saint Nicholas.

15 posted on 12/03/2003 4:07:25 PM PST by arasina (I can't believe I said that.)
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To: im4given
Yes, you're correct. He must have mentioned that all-dangerous Bible. That word must never be used as an indication of something good. Children can only be taught about how homosexuals stimulate each other, how to use condoms, and how to hate our country. The Bible is taboo.

Now let's take that last sentence and look at it for what it is.

The Bible Is Taboo

We're there. Scary, isn't it.

16 posted on 12/03/2003 4:08:54 PM PST by Lijahsbubbe (Take my advice; I don't use it anyway.)
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The "Red Scare" continues. No, it's not the commies anymore, but Santa Claus. The Red Diaper Babies of the ACLU have turned the tables and are now after Santa, Jesus, Joseph and Mary. Allah be praised.
17 posted on 12/03/2003 4:09:37 PM PST by elbucko
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To: arasina
I suppose their next step is to remove Santa from their "Winter Holidays

Oh, you'd better believe it. Santa will be next.

18 posted on 12/03/2003 4:11:09 PM PST by Lijahsbubbe (Take my advice; I don't use it anyway.)
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To: Lijahsbubbe
and the bible is what are kids need
19 posted on 12/03/2003 4:26:21 PM PST by im4given
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To: yonif
Given that the "Santa" image is undoubtedly derivative of the "little red man" (an alkaloid found in amanita muscaria) who mediated the spiritual experience of the Saami shaman, it would be difficult to figure out which side the ACLU was favoring here.

I've always suspected they were a bunch of dopers, but now they seem to have stepped off the planet completely.

Hide your stash! It's Xmas and they're loose!

20 posted on 12/03/2003 4:28:23 PM PST by muawiyah
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