To: yonif
We really don't celebrate Christmas in the United States anymore. We are fully in a post-Christian era. All that remains is this pseudo christmas full of secular fluff.
Really, do the easter bunny and santa clause or christmas trees or even material gifting have anything to do with the celebration of God's mission, sending Jesus Christ, His Son, to atone for our sins?
To: ThirstyMan
***Really, do the easter bunny and santa clause or christmas trees or even material gifting have anything to do with the celebration of God's mission, sending Jesus Christ, His Son, to atone for our sins?***
Mostly agree, especially with the easter bunny, which I have never associated with Christ's resurrection. But the Christmas season, if fully connected to Church attendance and worship, can and should be a celebration of the joy of the birth of our Savior. To be sure, it's been commercialized almost to the point of destruction, and calling it "winter holiday" or some other camouflage is a disgrace. But Christmas still brings families together and can be a joyous time for those Christians who still remember what the season was meant to celebrate, at least as long as I can remember. We are still free to celebrate it as it was meant to be, regardless of what the non believers prefer.
To: ThirstyMan
As I understand Christmas. It is a holiday based on the birth of Christ. It is not a religious holiday in the sense that Christians are commanded to celebrate or observe it in any way.
Basically it is a secular holiday. With that in mind I see and have no issues with the way anybody chooses to celebrate Christmas short of turning in into a religious holiday wherein someone might incorporate it into a sunday worship service.
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12/03/2003 5:55:39 PM PST by
PFKEY
To: ThirstyMan
Well, Santa Claus is based, in part, on St. Nicholas, a very devout Catholic bishop from southern Russia who was known for his cheerful disposition and generousity. And the tradidion of giving gifts was derived from the Three Wise Men giving gifts to Jesus and his parents. But your basic point is right: extreme, militant secularists are trying to deny mention of Christ on His birthday, and eventually put an end to any religious faith at all. They will succeed if people say they have already succeeded.
To: ThirstyMan
u dumb? The 3 wise men brought gifts to celibrate christs birth; we follow that tradition, as in all children are born christ like ! The wise men brought material gifts (gold, and frankincense, and myrrh)to christ, at the time they were all very expensive and rare!
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