Hillary to Troops: Support for War Fading

NewsMax.com ^ | 11/29/03 | "With Carl Limbacher and NewsMax.com Staff"

[thesummerwind]

Moderator note: I know it's going to be tough, but, please watch the calls for violence against this creature.

In a demoralizing message to U.S. soldiers serving in Iraq, visiting New York Sen. Hillary Clinton told them that Americans back home are growing increasingly skeptical of President Bush's decision to send them into battle.

Describing two meetings with G.I.s over turkey dinners in Baghdad, Sen. Clinton told reporters later that soldiers wanted to know "how the people at home feel about what we are doing."

Clinton said she told the troops, "Americans are wholeheartedly proud of what you are doing but there are many questions at home about the (Bush) administration's policies."

She also suggested that the U.S. could eventually loose the war in Iraq, contending, "We have to exert all of our efforts militarily, but the outcome is not assured."

Despite her sour pronouncements, the former first lady insisted that the soldiers were just as glad to see her as they were President Bush, whose surprise visit less than 24-hours earlier was greeted with standing ovations.

"It's a positive for the commander-in-chief to visit troops in the field," Clinton told reporters, adding, "the troops [also] seemed to appreciate seeing myself."

Speaking from a secure location just over the Kuwaiti border, Mrs. Clinton launched one verbal salvo after another at the White House, arguing that Bush officials had been "obsessed" with getting Saddam Hussein and saying the perception blinded them to the difficulties of deposing his regime.

"The Pentagon tried to make do with as few troops as possible, as light a footprint as they could get away with," Clinton said. "Now, we're playing catchup . . . Unfortunately, I don't think they fully appreciated the conditions we would encounter."

The top Democrat also reprised her charge that the White House is being less than candid when it comes to apprising the American people of the costs of the war.

"The obstacles and problems here are much greater than the administration usually admits to," she said, adding, "Everybody has to be honest."

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[Brad C.]

100% agreement

[Mia T]

Initially (oops)... I thought, "no." I thought -- mistakenly -- that an acronymic purist would require that the subject be a female. But interestingly, I discovered that the term can apply simply to a "person"... which, on second thought, still renders it inoperable....

[thesummerwind]

I lurked here for over five years, about two hours a day on average. To say the least, I am "up" on things. Take it from me, this (FR) is the site in the country with the most intelligent (and most humorous) members of all. It is a joy to communicate with such substantial and motivated people. This site is a genuine compliment to America.

[arasina]

What a wonderfully honest and introspective post. You seem like a great (war)daddy who your children surely love and respect. :o)

[Mia T]

Initially (oops)... I thought, "no." I thought -- mistakenly -- that an acronymic purist would require that the subject be a female. But interestingly, I discovered that the term can apply simply to a "person"... which, on second thought, still renders it inoperable....

The only way they can win is to convince people that we're space aliens.

bill clinton

With thy sharp teeth this knot intrinsicate
Of life at once untie.

Antony and Cleopatra V, ii, 304-05

 

June 9, 1999

 

Peggy Noonan's excellent piece in yesterday's Wall Street Journal is really the story of the death of democracy. At its core it is the description of the human double helix gone terribly awry, of a denatured protein grotesquely twisted, of two mutant, tangled strands of DNA, the basest imaginable of base pairs linked permanently, as firmly as guanine to cytosine, bill inexorably to hillary and conversely, doing what they do best, and doing it relentlessly.

Killing.

Killing insidiously.

Killing as they pose and pander and feel our pain.

My only complaint is with Peggy Noonan's title.

The Mad Boomer, doesn't begin to capture candidate clinton considered separately or even taken as the self-anointed "twofer," permanently conjoined at that cavity conspicuously empty except for ego, that place where brain and soul and guts and heart normally reside.

This is not to say that she -- that they -- are not both quite mad and of that self-indulgent, arrogantly, ignorantly solipsistic age sandwiched flatly between yesterday's innocence and tomorrow's insouciance. Rather, it is that their madness and their boomerism don't even begin to explain their noxious influence: The cloying, internally inconsistent clinton calculus. The unspoken clinton threats. They permeate the atmosphere like a coiling miasma, choking off all freedom.

Even in New York.

Especially in New York.

When she wrote "The New Colossus," Emma Lazarus hardly had in mind this pair of mutant, deadly, twisted aliens.

So forget Arkansas-Illinois carpetbaggery and standard issue muckraking. The clintons are aliens of quite another sort. They are extrinsic, not of this world. They are inhuman. They are dehumanizing.

You may recall that the first act of this story of two degenerates maintained by iterating idiots, farce of farce ad infinitum, was generated quite by accident by iterated AlGoreRhythm, who, it should be noted, is now himself the object of iterated calculation by said degenerates who want iteration 2004 all for themselves.

And thus the odd bit of bloody Gore in Act II: The ugly sight of a corrupt, bottom-heavy hillary self-impaled on the horns of a Treason-Dilemma- masquerading-as-a-Third-Term-Dilemma-masquerading-as-a-Senate-stampede, for example, or bill's recent unsolicited, underwhelming Times interview on the Gore candidacy.

Act I was called "The Cook, The Thief, His Wife and Her Lover." Ostensibly the tale of the wife of a bloodthirsty crime boss who finds romance with a bland bookseller between courses at her husband's restaurant, it was in fact the Thyestean and moveable -- yet unmoving -- feast of hillary clinton at her husband's sham restitution. (Note the reciprocity. The sham restitution in Act II is all hillary's.)

Food, color coding, sex, murder, torture and cannibalism were the exotic (if mostly horizontal) fare in this beautifully filmed but brutally uncompromising modern memoir which passed as ancient fable about nouveau riche rapacity.

Not for the faint at heart, Purple Hearts or queazy stomachs, this depiction of the gross debasement of America was heavily peppered with irony and dark humor throughout.

Although she baked no cookies, didn't do illicit land or cattle deals and stood by no man, hillary clinton starred in the triple role of the Cook, the Thief and his Wife. Her lover was played at once vaporously and in workmanlike fashion by the ghost of Eleanor Roosevelt, with Janet Reno, between her stints rendering intermittent injustice for the Husband, as the reliable stand-in. Sidney Blumenthal was the stand-in for the Cook and Craig Livingstone the stand-in for the Thief. The last-minute addition of Christopher Hitchens as the snitch was a stroke of absolute genius notwithstanding its cerebral accident, its predictable-if-perfect pitch and its facile alliteration.

Although Act I had no rating, the new clinton soccer-mom directive will require a photo ID for any viewer without independent proof of illegal alien DNC <-> DNA sequencing.

In Act II, rabid anti-clinton voters, roughly 33% of the U.S. populace according to as-yet-unpodded pollsters, become increasingly aware that they are disappearing in droves and being replaced by alien pod replicas which have their physical attributes but lack all anti-clinton affect.

If Act I was a thinly veiled allegory about naked clintonism, then Act II is a parable about the plan for world domination by the Establishment, aged hippies in pinstripes all, with their infantile, solipsistic world view amazingly untouched by time.

THE ALIENS

COPYRIGHT Mia T 1999

 

[arasina]

deadeye, you are dead on about herself. Poifekt!

[thesummerwind]

How's this?

As a retired military member, I find the statements by Sen. Hilary Clinton in Iraq to be undermining the efforts of President Bush and the joint military forces in the Middle East and around the world who are fighting for this country and for the possible liberty of millions of oppressed people around the world.

I respectfully request an action taken to censure her, as her actions are unwise, and destructive at this point. Talking down the president's policies, along with the wishes of a Congress that represented the people with a vote to use force to topple Saddam from his position is way out of line. Her actions are a direct attack upon military morale, and could very possibly create a detrimental and dangerous atmosphere for the dedicated troops in the region. Furthermore, it would be welcome from here (but probably unlikely) if she were investigated for the possibility of treason for her undermining actions. Thank you for your time.

Red, I think this may be a little easier to read and get across the same sentiment for us. Thanks for the letter.

[tdoodle]

How many cemetaries did they empty when she was elected?Here in Louisiana they put people above ground for that purpose.Just look at the last election for Governor!

[thesummerwind]

Right on!

I'm into numbers, and I know the multitudes of Americans who are clueless. And it is because of all the opinion making instruments in this country. Don't get me started on this. I get cruel. I fear Americans will continue to be guided way too much by the socialist, liberal Lamestream media. It is very frightening.

[thesummerwind]

I'll leave a nice tip on my pillow each morning of my stay. ;)

[thesummerwind]

Yes I'm all over that Robbins fiasco. Damn, and I loved him in 'Shawshank'. Sarandon must have given him twelve too many good hummers. What a whorey slut she has become. You're right, that Robbins movie is an abomination!

[thesummerwind]

The media got BC elected; and they know it; and they think they are the power behind the power

THEY ARE the power behind the power. They MAKE the powerful!

People must realize that the mainstream media is the biggest most powerful, all-encompassing enemy of this country, by far. If I get started on this, it gets ugly, so I'll stop.

[thesummerwind]

LOL!

[thesummerwind]

LOL!

[sport]

I believe that the bitch should be charged with treason.

[sport]

If it has not already been posted, will anyone join me in calling, writing, or e-mailing Attorney General Ashcroft and demnding that she be charged with treason.

There is no telling how many more Americans and other coalition forces individuals her statement[s] will cause to lose their lives.

What she was saying to them was: Keep on fighting! Help me to get in power and I will get the U.S. troops out.

That is giving aid and comfort to the enemy in any language.

[thesummerwind]

I know how you feel. It really is draining.

But get on your local media and explain what she did over there. If we all do it on radio talk shows and in newspapers, etc., all over the country the energy expended will be very, very worthwhile!

I know it's hard and wearying to hate disdain them so much, but, use that energy to rid the nation of them!

[thesummerwind]

For a newbie, you found a great thread! You should be proud, if a thread generates more than 100 posts, you did good! lol! this will hit 1500.

1. Hillary

2. treason

3. our wonderful, young, decent kids at war

3 - I couldn't miss.

Thanks for the welcome.

I hope I'm the fortunate one to post the first thread when Hillary does a 'Vince' on herself, because she's so despondent after she finally sends "Old Crusty" off to the local cleaners, and it comes back in 999 rotten pieces. ;)

Over 1500 now, excellent.

[thesummerwind]

semi-controlled rage

"semi"? That's difficult for her.

[NewLand]

"You agree with riri, and then practically go on to prove she cannot win(with reasoned logic, I might add):)"

Yeah, my post may have been a little confusing...I agreed that we cannot underestimate Hillary...I agreed with the "media support"...but I think that by 2008, those dynamics will have changed enough so that it will not have the same effect as in past.

The other thing I didn't mention...we just CANNOT nominate someone who is merely a party faithful, like we did with Bob Dole.

The best way to defeat Hillary in 2008 is to defeat her in NY in 2006!

She knows that, which is why she still may "run" in 2004.