The man who solved the Kennedy assassination

salon.com ^ | Nov. 22, 2003 | David Talbot

[Destro]

FRONTLINE obtained this photograph from John B. Ciravolo, Jr., of New Orleans. Ciravolo was also a C.A.P. member in 1955 and says he was in the same unit with Oswald and was standing right in front of him in the photo. Ciravolo identified David Ferrie (second from left in helmet), while former C.A.P. cadet Tony Atzenhoffer, also of New Orleans, identified Oswald and Ferrie in the photograph, and Colin Hammer, who says he served with both men in the C.A.P., also identified both in the photograph.

FRONTLINE located the photographer, Chuck Frances, who says he took the picture for the C.A.P. Francis also said that when he was interviewed by the FBI, he told them Oswald and Ferrie knew each other, but he did not tell them about the photograph. The executor of Ferrie's estate, as well as Ferrie's godson, also picked out Ferrie.

After the Kennedy assassination, David Ferrie told investigators he never knew Lee Oswald. "I never heard David Ferrie mention Lee Harvey Oswald," said Layton Martens, a former C.A.P. Cadet and a close friend to Ferrie until Ferrie's death in 1967.

But when FRONTLINE showed Martens the photograph, he identified Ferrie. "It does indicate the possibity of an associaton," said Martens, "but if and to what extent is another question. Of course we've all been photographed with people, and we could be presented with photographs later and asked, 'Well, do you know this person? Obviously, you must because you've been photographed with them.' Well no, it's just a photograph, and I don't know that person. It's just someone who happened to be in the picture."

"As dramatic as the discovery of this photograph is after thirty years," says Michael Sullivan, FRONTLINE executive producer for special projects, "one should be cautious in ascribing its meaning. The photograph does give much support to the eyewitnesses who say they saw Ferrie and Oswald together in the C.A.P., and it makes Ferrie's denials that he ever knew Oswald less credible. But it does not prove that the two men were with each other in 1963, nor that they were involved in a conspiracy to kill the president."

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Offical records of that time as cited in Posner's "Case Closed" indicate that Ferrie was not even in the C.A.P. at the time Oswald served. So how to explain the official record with this photo?

[Destro]

[JoeSchem]

I told him who I thought was involved. But it was like he couldn't focus on it, he'd get this look of pain or more like numbness on his face.

Which is exactly the same reaction he'd give you if he thought you were off your rocker but was too polite to say so to your face.

[Peace will be here soon]

Here we go again.. I am staying away from these JFK threads. They can get real scary !!

[muawiyah]

So, "how to explain".... a "photo".

I saw this photo of the Pope with Hillary Clinton. His hand was planted firmly on her behind.

Obviously the Pope wouldn't do that ~ not with Hillary anyway.

This photo is readily explained as being of similar character to the one I saw.

[texasbluebell]

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[freebilly]

These Kennedy Assassination conspiracy threads make Oliver Stone look perfectly sane....

[Destro]

George Joannides, the agent assigned by the CIA to act as a liaison with the House Assassinations Committee, had actually played a role in the Oswald story.Blakey was stunned by the revelation. Today Blakey says that if he had known Joannides' background, he would have immediately relieved him of his duties and made him "a witness under oath."

Beware of Greeks bearing gifts!

[Destro]

Well if the photo proves a connection the Warren Report denied-it's a big deal-for some anyway. All before my time.

[Destro]

bump

[_Jim]

The Assassinations Committee was expected to corroborate the Warren Report, but in its final days of hearings, the panel heard surprising testimony from three acoustics experts that pushed the investigators in the conspiracy direction.

This was in the closing days of the hearings, they were pressed for time and running out of money ... SINCE THEN we have lerned this:

2.1.3 The House Select Committee on Assassinations (HSCA)

The JFK and Martin Luther King assassinations were formally investigated by the HSCA in the late seventies.

They essentially confirmed the WC findings that Oswald fired three shots, two of which struck and killed JFK.

Based solely on a police radio recording, they detected a fourth gunshot in Dealey Plaza and concluded there was another shoot- er on the GK who fired and missed.

The recording, and thus the conspiracy thesis, was later discredited by a National Academy of Science study. The tape had cross-talk from two channels and the sounds initially identified as shots were recorded a minute after the assassination.

TRUE to form, the conspiratorial material only tells half the truth - or a half-truth if you will - rather than the complete truth ...

[MAWG]

Nellie Connally had something very important to say recently.She said that she was as certain as her husband was that JFK and Connally were hit by different bullets. I find this to be more important than the " coat flap " evidence presented in the ABC program. That anommaly proved nothing. Sitting that close to her husband, she would know the exact moment he was hit. She said there was a 2 second interval, just enough time to work the bolt on a piece of shit Italian rifle. The single bullet theory is highly suspect and Arlen Specter has said as much himself.Blakey is right, it was a mob hit. Every thing I have read for the last 35 years points to it. Only the mob could pull this off AND keep it quiet. And they would do it again later with Jimmy Hoffa.

[afz400]

In my opinion is was Lyndon Johnson, J. Edgar Hoover, Carlos Marcello, Richard Nixon, Earl Warren, RFK, Castro, Castro haters, Aristotle Onassis, the Russians, the CIA, right wing Texas oilmen, Gerald Ford, and two different Oswalds all asked by Jackie O. to get vengence on her two timing low down husband.

[First_Salute]

Bump.

[MAWG]

Dont forget Joe DiMaggio.

[SoCal Pubbie]

Did you know that some eyewitnesses at Pearl Harbor SWORE they saw swastikas on some of the airplanes?

[Destro]

They probably did see swastikas on Japanese airplanes being that the swastika is a religous symbol and a symbol of luck.

Januray 13, 2003 - Buddhist Nazis?!

If you ever look at a Japanese map, you'll probably see little swastikas all over the place! That was the symbol of the Nazis, and something that nobody in their right mind uses in North America or Europe. But on closer inspection, you'll notice that the swastikas on Japanese maps are actually backwards. They've got nothing at all to do with Nazis... they actually mark the locations of Buddhist temples. It's all very innocent, but when you see that for the first time and don't realize what it is, it's pretty shocking.

[Verginius Rufus]

Mrs. Connally was insistent that there were only three bullets...but she may not have been better able to tell than some of the other eyewitnesses, and she knew that the Warren Commission's version depended on there being no more than three bullets fired.

Gerald Ford was on the Warren Commission and is still alive. I read once that Ruby pleaded with him to tell him what he knew but Ford wasn't interested.

[Destro]

Afterwards, the committee's acoustics findings were cast in doubt by a special panel of the National Academy of Sciences, which asserted that the sounds contained on the police dictabelt were simply static. In 2001, the NAS panel was in turn challenged by a study conducted by government scientist D.B. Thomas and published in the British forensics journal Science and Justice, which found that there was indeed a fourth shot from the grassy knoll.

[Destro]

Mrs. Connally was on Larry King last week and claimed that she did not think the magic bullet got her husband.