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Nellie Connally Disputes Warren Commission
NewsMax.com ^ | 11/25/03 | Carl Limbacher and NewsMax.com Staff

Posted on 11/24/2003 11:56:47 PM PST by kattracks

For all the coverage generated by the 40th anniversary of the Kennedy assassination this past weekend, the media managed to miss the only genuine news to emerge from the commemoration.

Nellie Connally, wife of former Texas Gov. John Connally and the only person still alive who rode in the presidential death limousine, publicly disputed for the first time the Warren Commission's "magic bullet" theory, a scenario absolutely essential to its finding that Lee Harvey Oswald was Kennedy's lone assassin.

A year after the assassination the Commission concluded that Kennedy and Gov. Connally were both wounded by the first shot fired by Oswald from the Texas School Book Depository. A second shot missed completely. A third shot slammed into Kennedy's head and splattered his brains throughout the car.

But Mrs. Connally told CNN's Larry King that Kennedy and her husband couldn't have been struck by the same bullet, because she watched her husband react over a period of two seconds after the first shot struck the president.

"John [Connally] sitting right in front of him knew it was a shot," the former Texas first lady said. "He's a hunter and a shooter, you know. . . ."

Mrs. Connally continued:

"So he turned quick to his right and he couldn't see [Kennedy] because he was directly in front of him. And he said, 'No, no, no' and turned to his left. . . . Now this is a second or two. Then, as he whirled back, the second shot hit John . . ."

When pressed about the single bullet theory adopted by the Warren Commission, Mrs. Connally told King, "Do you think a bullet that went through the president's neck can hang there in air between the two seats while John turned to the right, turned to the left and came back?

"That's what I asked the Warren Commission," she explained. "I said, 'I don't believe a bullet could do that. That bullet -- the same bullet did not hit both of them.'"



TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: conspiracy; jfk; nellieconnally; warrencommission
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To: _Jim
As Shooter 2.5 and others have pointed out - 'silencers' don't really 'silence', a 'report' (from the muzzle) would have still been heard by somebody (there were a LOT of people down there that day - and I suspect quite a number of plain-clothes officers and as well as SS agents in the crowd as well)...

Witnesses reported two types of gunshots, sharp cracks and muzzled shots.

201 posted on 11/26/2003 1:45:10 AM PST by #3Fan
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To: wolficatZ
Theres no way Connally was hit until about 322.
202 posted on 11/26/2003 2:05:10 AM PST by djf
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To: PhilDragoo
Good post.
203 posted on 11/26/2003 3:20:58 AM PST by #3Fan
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To: kattracks
I was watching Fox News when she said that -- but no one appears to have pickup up on it except Newsmax.

Carolyn

204 posted on 11/26/2003 3:27:11 AM PST by CDHart
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To: chuckwalla
But you know it doesn't matter so much who did it now. The fact that our own government is covering up is proof enough.

Bttt

205 posted on 11/26/2003 5:23:34 AM PST by texasbluebell
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To: #3Fan
I simply -quite simply- don't believe you ...

I shall assert now that the moon is made of green cheese, and, since it's been established in some circles that we could not have *possibly* been there you are without a means to prove me either right or wrong ... contentions such as yours aspired to 'greatness' at the time the first 'conspiracy book' was proven false in 1964, at which time the conspiracy industry then turned to the 'Grassy Knoll' as their savior and source of 'shots' ...

206 posted on 11/26/2003 6:32:20 AM PST by _Jim ( <--- Ann Coulter speaks on gutless Liberals (RealAudio files))
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To: PhilDragoo
While I agree with 99% of your statements, I disagree with the notion that the throat wound was an entry wound. There has never been, to the best of my knowledge, any dispute over the belief that the throat wound was anything other than an exit wound.

Can you cite your sources or reasons for this statement? I would like to understand why you believe it to be an entry wound.
207 posted on 11/26/2003 7:14:54 AM PST by DustyMoment
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To: Deuce
...not necessarily as clearcut as I remember.

It's always best to rely on photos and physical evidence. Eyewitness testimony is good too, but not as reliable, as your memories of the Zapruder film demonstrate. And photos and physical evidence don't have agendas or biases, unlike all of us humans. Keep this in mind when considering various aspects of the assassination.

208 posted on 11/26/2003 7:29:15 AM PST by Tares
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To: drjoe
What killed him?
209 posted on 11/26/2003 8:08:41 AM PST by Old Professer
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To: DustyMoment
I would like to understand why you believe it to be an entry wound.

The problem with the throat wound is that his ER doc, Dr. Perry, who was dealing with that wound, believed it to be an entry wound.

Reading over the ARRB report, that's what he initially believed.

Now it sounds like he at some point in time began to doubt his initial findings, but I haven't figured out why. Since he was one of only maybe a handful of people who saw it before the tracheostomy was done, maybe he began to doubt what he had seen over the years, given the emphasis on "shots only from the rear", I just don't know.

On this link, start at about page 52, and a few pages following.

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"...but actually it looked like an entrance wound and the bullet appeared to have been coming at him..."

210 posted on 11/26/2003 8:20:59 AM PST by texasbluebell
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To: veronica
Robert Oswald's book was written fairly soon after the killing. Much of the evidence of Oswald's guilt was doubtful at best. NO ONE who knew Oswald considered him capable of violence.

Oswald meant he would find no evidence of his guilt in his eyes as Robert indicated. He never admitted anything to his brother and all his brother had to go on was the concocted crap handed him by the Committee.

How do you sneak a 34" gun into the TBD in a 22" "bag?" Magik bag, magik barrel?
211 posted on 11/26/2003 8:27:05 AM PST by justshutupandtakeit (America's Enemies foreign and domestic agree: Bush must be destroyed.)
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To: Tares
What about the sunglasses? At 308, Kennedy has no glasses, at 321 he has an amber-colored temple piece clearly showing.

How can this be?

212 posted on 11/26/2003 8:32:47 AM PST by Old Professer
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To: _Jim
Smoke from the area of the knoll was smelled by several people and seen by the railroad man, Holland (?). Men with military experience of being under fire were diving for the ground in the belief that shots came over their heads from the knoll. Many other witnesses thought the same thing.

Technicians at Ford Motor saw the bullet hole in the windshield as did people at Parkland. The car was immediately stripped of all evidence CONTRARY TO ALL LOGIC AND JUDICIAL PROCEDURE and rebuilt. The only reasonable conclusion for such a strange action is that it was done to destroy contrary evidence.

The photos you describe and theories drawn from them are too vague for me to put any stock in so don't expect an argument as to their validity from me. However, the autopsy photos are clearly fakes as I suspect much of the "evidence" against Oswald is.

Just about the only piece of incontrovertible evidence in this whole proceeding is the fact that a known, long-time Mafia associate murdered the "assassin" in the middle of scores of policeman FOR NO DISCERNABLE REASON. He then refused to tell the real reason he did it until he was moved to a different location. Warren REFUSED (for no good reason) to do it. Why?
213 posted on 11/26/2003 8:39:20 AM PST by justshutupandtakeit (America's Enemies foreign and domestic agree: Bush must be destroyed.)
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To: Old Professer
There is clearly something that looks like what you describe in the later photos that was not there in the earlier ones.

I'd like to hear an explanation for this now...
214 posted on 11/26/2003 8:42:37 AM PST by texasbluebell
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To: Peace will be here soon
That is not what those tests proved. All they proved is that the fragments are similiar to the metal used in other bullets from the same batch. The combined weight of the fragments and "pristine" bullet are GREATER THAN WHAT THE BULLET SHOULD WEIGH. Thus, they cannot be from the same bullet.
215 posted on 11/26/2003 9:19:50 AM PST by justshutupandtakeit (America's Enemies foreign and domestic agree: Bush must be destroyed.)
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To: justshutupandtakeit
Technicians at Ford Motor saw the bullet hole in the windshield as did people at Parkland. The car was immediately stripped of all evidence CONTRARY TO ALL LOGIC AND JUDICIAL PROCEDURE and rebuilt.

This has always been a major basis for my suspicions.

216 posted on 11/26/2003 9:31:44 AM PST by Deuce
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To: raisincane
She claims Oswald was there, by his own ommission to her the day before, to shot the killer.

Would it be possible to rephrase this sentence and perhaps expand it somewhat so it is clearer?

217 posted on 11/26/2003 9:37:11 AM PST by RightWhale (Close your tag lines)
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To: Old Professer; texasbluebell
What about the sunglasses? At 308, Kennedy has no glasses, at 321 he has an amber-colored temple piece clearly showing.

That is not sunglasses. It is a flap of scalp, skull, and brain tissue. Frame 313 (between the 308 and 321 that you referenced) is the frame when Kennedy was shot.

218 posted on 11/26/2003 9:53:06 AM PST by Tares
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To: Deuce
Evidence of that nature would have been saved and carefully studied for months or yrs. even in cases of bums getting shot. But the haste with which this was destroyed is EXTREMELY suspicious.
219 posted on 11/26/2003 9:53:35 AM PST by justshutupandtakeit (America's Enemies foreign and domestic agree: Bush must be destroyed.)
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To: _Jim
According to the theory proposed in the "Texas Connection" none the fatal shots inflicted on Kennedy and the wound inflicted on Conolly came from the Oswald's pathetic WWI Manlicher-Carcano bolt action rifle. The author of the "Texas Connection" contends that Oswald was instructed by his handlers to fire one shot from the School Book Depository in order to get "Kennedy to implement better security procedures".

As the Zapruder film shows Kennedy was killed by a well-orchestrated cross-fire emmanating from the grass knoll and another area. As many as 7 shots were fired only one of which came from Oswald's Manlicher-Carcano rifle.
220 posted on 11/26/2003 9:56:21 AM PST by ggekko
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