Rush Limbaugh Live Thread: Returns To the Airwaves - 12:00 EST!

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[rs79bm]

12:00 EST Monday, November 17th - Rush returns - Welcome Back!

[anniegetyourgun]

And that is my prayer for Rush - redemption....something that is far beyond recovery.

[EggsAckley]

BlueElephant
Since Nov 11, 2003

[AlwaysLurking]

Bless your heart Rob...good for you!

[gipper81]

BlueElephant
Since Nov 11, 2003

[Mudboy Slim]

"I don't see that his addiction will have ANY negative impact on his success..."

Yep...I'd be curious to find out what his listenership numbers are fer today...it's gotta be a record...MUD

[Rebelbase]

"Um, so are you a he or she? Just curious. :-)"

You'll want to scratch your eyes out, bathe in Phisohex and gargle with 100 proof Listerene when you find out! 8^)

[Lazamataz]

You know, I am so glad Rush 'came out'. It gave me the courage to come out about my addiction on FR. I didn't know how people would take it. I actually thought I would be hounded off the forum. A few people were like that, but the vast majority of people -- surprisingly -- were supportive and upbeat to me.

I am grateful to them, and to all of you.

Recovery is a very special miracle.

[BureaucratusMaximus]

Wow...I'm extremely happy for you. God Bless.

[sweetliberty]

I'm sure it will be.

[EggsAckley]

Beatcha to it!
~</;o)

[mupcat]

"He just said "FORMERLY NICOTINE STAINED FINGERS" which I haven't heard him say for awhile. However, in this week's Enquirer an article about him states that he walked aroundt he ground of the rehab CHAIN SMOKING!"


He has said he gave up the cigarettes, but he's always smoked cigars. That may be what they're referring to.

[Stop Legal Plunder]

Although 12-Step programs work regardless of religious beliefs, many of the principles of AA came from the Oxford Groups, a Christian organization. 12-Stepping is not incompatible with Christianity.

Twelve-step programs include recognition of a generic "higher power" that can give us strength that we don't have. This is deism, which is certainly incompatible with Christianity. And the incompatibility exists no matter how many real Christians have gone through such programs.

Of course, in America today, few care if something is true, as long as it seems to work. This is the religion/philosophy of pragmatism. In the end, however, pragmatism doesn't work, which is why graduates of recovery programs are still "in recovery" decades later and why addiction is forever.

[CounterCounterCulture]

Marta is/was some kind of fashion designer. She did the line of Limbaugh's ties and women's scarves.

[onyx]

Bravo!

Hey, you're no elephant, blue or otherwise --- me thinks you're just a democrat jackass. Your ugly comments do not belong here. Back to DU.

[theDentist]

And that's why I decided to ask before posting a different reply.

[Tree of Liberty]

She designed his ties.

[mrobison]

As I said in another post, the "healing arts" are subordinate to Jesus Christ, not the other way around. 12 Step Programs haven't grasped that, yet.

[Lazamataz]

This is restitution, not repentance. Repentance is turning away from the sin, whereas restitution is recompense for the harm done. Apologies don't constitute restitution.

What does he owe his listening public as 'amends'? Nothing more than future excellence, I'd say.

So far, so good.

[RobFromGa]

Thanks!

[A CA Guy]

Well a doctor friend put it to me like this:

No drugs, no quality of life. He has two choices with his pain:

#1 Medicate it to live his life (to have a life and probably die much sooner) or
#2 Not medicate it and have no life in pain.

Yes, these drugs have hurt his health and will likely kill him sooner.

But, no drugs, no form of life perhaps.
My friend knows of people in pain and the main issue is to have a life. So some would rather have a shorter livable life with less pain over no life.
(Now if Rush was BS'ing about his need due to pain, then we are taking a whole other issue and we should treat him with a harsher view.)
I do know people with no disks in their back and live life in pain. They have no life without medication and if that was Rush's situation, I understand how he could have gone to more and more drugs to relieve pain.

Like people with a cancer, I don't fault a person with a severe illness for seeking release. This is not similar to recreational self medication as some Libertarians or pro-recreational addiction folks on this site like to back (In the name of the Constitution, our Founding Fathers and of course, for the children) Now that kind of thinking is dangerous and rather evil. A whole other issue in that case.

The catch 22 for Rush is that if he is really in the kind of pain he claims he can't live without medications, yet again he has a weakness with medications to want more as his tolerance grows against pain.
Bottom line for people in pain is to realize that even with reasonable medication, they will still have pain, just more manageable.
We can't have people for pain in general self-medication to all kinds of levels either.
#1 They can kill behind the wheel of a car or operating machinery or caring for children.
#2 They are a liability for employers in many cases who opens the employer up for lawsuits.
#3 The non-wealthy ones end up going into crime often and are unemployable.
Rush is handling this while having the luxury of money, but it is a horror with no real answer for LIFE for him.
I don't envy his addiction at all.

Also as we wish him well and give prayers because we know of him, we also during our well wishes and prayers need to include the millions of others in his position who have no money to throw at the problem. For them it is probably 3x tougher.

I do like Rush though and wish him well.