Terri's Fight - (Daily Thread/Updates) November 11-13

Various | November 10, 2003 | sweetliberty

[sweetliberty]

TERRI'S FIGHT (Thread 7 - November 11-13)

Link back to thread 6 - (Nov.8-10) Link back to thread 5 - (Nov. 5-7) Link back to thread 4 - (Nov. 3-4) Link back to thread 3 (Nov. 1-2) Link back to thread 2 - (Oct. 30-31) Link back to thread 1 - (Oct. 29)

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Contained in Thread 6:

*Correction on thread 6. In the heading where it says, "contained in thread 4," it should read, "contained in thread 5."

Contact information for Judge Greer, probate documents listed for Terry and Michael Schiavo, article from April, 2001 when Terri's feeding tube was ordered by Judge Quesada to be put back in pending deposition of Cindy Shook Brashers, link to clip of Steve Schiavo calling in to Glenn Beck's program, link to information on Schiavo/Centonze property value, link to transcript of On the Record interview with Ken Connor, link to American Patriot Friends Network, link to hospicepatients.org website, article about the testimony of Trudy Capone, link to post about co-sponsor of Terri's Bill in the House, Frank Attkisson giving legal reasons for the need for intervention on Terri's behalf, link to Hospice Patients Alliance website, statement that 9 neurologists have said that Terri is NOT in a PVS, Washington, D.C.contact information via email/fax, summary of legal expenses that Schiavo paid out of the money awarded to him for Terri’s care and rehabilitation, also see chart here for summary of legal expenses, This Round to Terri, But Fight Not Over article in Catholic Standard & Times (10/23/2003), another article, Schindlers Wonder What Happened the Night Terri Collapsed form Catholic Standard and Times:, and a serious question that is raised and needs to be researched.

Also in thread 6 (breaking it down into 2 paragraphs due to the length): information on holdings of Jodi Centonze, was Terri beaten(?), liability claims against Terri’s doctors, chronology of cases against Michael Schiavo, Schiavo v. Bush, who’s paying hospice(?), some quotes from George Felos’ book here and here, Jodi Centonze insurance connections, link to Village Voice article: Lying about Terri Schiavo, federal prohibition of use of funds for assisted suicide and euthanasia, the model husband according to George Felos (also see addition here), findings of Florida medical board on Dr. Hammersfahr and some facts about Judge Greer regarding this case.

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Click on pic for Terri's website.

This thread serves as a place for posting all new general information and references, along with links following Terri's case, plus information on cable news and talk radio shows dealing with the issue, court cases and press releases. This is also the place to post contact information, prayers and general discussion.

If you have something that qualifies as BREAKING NEWS or FRONT PAGE NEWS, please post it on a separate thread in that category in order to give it maximum exposure and then post a link to the article/thread here so that it will be included in the next update of links. Also, if you post links to articles from original sources and there is also a thread on FR, please link to the FR thread. Many original links become corrupt over time and we want to be able to access the information at will.

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Schiavo tapes: snippets, then not much

House speaker Byrd defends law keeping brain-damaged woman alive

Terri Schiavo's parents discuss their pain, heartache & resolve

[sweetliberty]

"Where can I go from Your Spirit? Or where can I flee from Your presence? If I ascend to heaven, You are there; If I make my bed in Sheol, behold, You are there. If I take the wings of the dawn, If I dwell in the remotest part of the sea, Even there Your hand will lead me, And Your right hand will lay hold of me. If I say, "Surely the darkness will overwhelm me, And the light around me will be night," Even the darkness is not dark to You, And the night is as bright as the day. Darkness and light are alike {to You.} For You formed my inward parts; You wove me in my mother's womb. I will give thanks to You, for I am fearfully and wonderfully made; Wonderful are Your works, And my soul knows it very well. My frame was not hidden from You, When I was made in secret, {And} skillfully wrought in the depths of the earth; Your eyes have seen my unformed substance; And in Your book were all written The days that were ordained {for me,} When as yet there was not one of them. (Ps. 139: 7-16)

[sweetliberty]

Terri's Army ping!

If you want on or off of this ping list, please let me know.

[pollywog]

Thanks for the new thread sweetliberty.

[EternalVigilance]

LIFE and LIBERTY BUMP!

Let me remind everyone that the events that are unfolding in the U.S. Senate this week are critical. The Democrat's unprecedented filibuster of any judicial nominee that is pro-life or a Christian must be challenged with all of our might!

I will be there all night Wednesday and Thursday nights helping coordinate the dozens of press conferences that will be held every half hour.

If anyone is near DC, they should come and be part of these historic events by helping fill the galleries with supporters of a return to a constitutional process for advice and consent of the President's nominees.

If you can't be there, maximum pressure needs to be applied to every single Senator, no matter their political stripe, to simply allow an up or down vote on these judges.

At the same time, we need to do everything in our power to make the American people aware of what is really going on here.

[Mo1]

At the same time, we need to do everything in our power to make the American people aware of what is really going on here.

I'm trying .. I think I'm about to over load my email system

[pollywog]

Thank you so much EternalVigilance, for standing in the gap for all of us here on the westcoast who cannot be in DC. I pray that God will move mightly on our land with a revival of cleansing and restoration!!!!I will be emailing the senators tomorrow...

[EternalVigilance]

LOL...that's great, Mo1.

If every Republican will overload their email service, as well as the Senate switchboards, things will change here.

[pollywog]

I'm trying .. I think I'm about to over load my email system

You have that right!! I need to " hire" someone to come in once a week and " clean my computer email box" LOLOL! forget the HOUSE!!

[Alamo-Girl]

Bump!

[cyn]

What a nice scripture to start this thread! Thanks for all your work putting and keeping this info together.

[EternalVigilance]

Excellent!

I don't want to overtake the Terri thread with this--but it is another very important front in the same war.

May God richly bless every one of you that have stood so stalwartly for Terri. By standing for the individual, made in God's image, we ultimately stand for the unalienable right to life and liberty for all.

[Ohioan from Florida]

Psalm 139 has always been my personal favorite. Thank you for posting it, even if not in its entirety.

[Coral Snake]

I really do like these history lessons, I do like to hear form those that have different points fo voiw than mine. However they really are not appropriate for the Terri daily threads. (Particularly when I'm on probation with at least one of the Admin Moderators over this subject.) If you wish to continue to relate Civil War and Indian War history vis a vis Gen. W.T. Sherman comparing it to the modern battle against the Death Culture with me please take it to this old song update thread of mine which is appropriate to both subjects.

Coral Snake Song: Marching Through Georgia (The Hospice, murder and evidence burning)

[Future Useless Eater]

Michael Schiavo's Girlfriend -Radio Interview

This interview can be heard online via this post.
Look for the section: SOUND FILES IN MP3 FORMAT

Girlfriend: I'm sort of personal with this case, because I'm the first person that Michael Schiavo dated after his wife had this heart attack... It was about three years after she had her heart attack...

Radiohost: Right...

Girlfriend: And he used to go visit her at the nursing home, while we were dating. He was really into taking care of her. It was before he ever filed his lawsuit.

Girlfriend: And he used to stay there a lot longer than he told me, because he said that he would... he's a real loud guy... and he would go thru the nursing home, and he said immediately umm, as soon as he got near the door, her head was already looking at the door, but that she would recognize his voice...

Radiohost: Right...

Girlfriend: ...and she would start crying when he got ready to leave. Umm, and he was like, "She is [unintelligible] to my life, and she is taking ALL of this time! And upsets my WHOLE LIFE with this, and this is ALL her fault. And, um, just a COMPLETE change!"

Radiohost: Really...

Girlfriend: Yea, and I was just like... "I don't even know WHO you ARE, but GET away from ME!"

Radiohost: How long did you date him?

Girlfriend: I dated him for a year.

Radio host: I talked to somebody else who knows the family personally, last time I did this show, and ahh, on this topic, and they said there was a little bit of an emotional abusive relationship going on with them? Do you know anything about that?

Girlfriend: I don't know from her, from him, but she was kindof heavy as a child, and-

Radiohost: And he would call her fat? and thats why she was so anorexic and bulemic right?

Girlfriend: She was bulemic and there is no way somebody can be taking all those laxa-
[the girlfriend seems to have no firsthand knowledge of Terri before her 'accident' and got this bulemia story from Michael]
Mikes very into, he's VERY possesive, he's VERY jealous, he stalked me at my... at where I worked, after I stopped dating him.

Girlfriend: When he would get mad at me, he would tell me, "I would rather be with HER, laying in that bed in the nursing home, than you". I mean, he can be the most INCREDIBLY MEAN person!

Radiohost: What a NICE GUY!

Girlfriend: Yea,

Radiohost: What a NICE guy!

Girlfriend: I just want to take a SHOWER after every time that I even, see or hear what's going on there.

Radiohost: GEEZ!

Girlfriend: I'm just sick.

[Transcripted for education and discussion purposes only, not guaranteed to be 100% accurate. ]

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Recent interviews/excerpts:
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"Hannity and Colmes" - Tuesday 10-14-03 --> (Terri's father) Bob Schindler: "MONEY and FOUL PLAY"

"On the Record with Greta" - Friday 10-24-03 --> Forensic Pathologist, Dr. Michael Baden: "Potassium imbalance UNLIKELY - HEALTHY heart - NECK TRAUMA"

"At Large with Geraldo Rivera" Sunday 10-26-03 --> author Christopher Darden and Harvard Law Professor Alan Dershowitz: "You have eternity to be dead; You only have a limited amount of time to live"

"Hannity and Colmes" - Monday 10-27-03 --> (father) Bob Schindler and (neurologist) Dr. William Hammesfahr: "She absolutely CAN be rehabilitated -clearly NEVER had heart attack -Emergency room: damaged neck"

"On the Record with Greta" - Monday 10-27-03 --> (attorney) Pat Anderson: "BIG FIGHT -attempted STRANGULATION"

"On the Record with Greta" - Tuesday 10-28-03 --> (attorney) Pat Anderson and (brother) Bobby Schindler: "failing marriage -DIVORCE imminent -Potassium explained":

"Hardball with with Chris Matthews" - Wednesday 10-29-03 --> (pro-Terri attorney for ACLJ) Jay Sekulow and (anti-Terri attorney) Joe Tacopina: "Matthews: I think the human issue here is... her eyes flickering... I think she's ALIVE":

"Larry King Live" - Monday 10-27-03 --> (husband) Michael Schiavo[barf alert]: THEY get money from the right wing ACTIVISTS - "Removing somebody's feeding is very painless. It is a very easy way to die" - [later] King: Would you take one[lie detector test]? - No

"The Abrams Report" - Monday 11-03-03 --> (Commentary) almost entirely pro-husband

"O'Reilly Factor" - Wednesday 11-05-03 --> (former "Vegetative State" patient) Kate Adamson: Being starved to death is EXTREMELY painful "It was SHEER torture!" - took her THREE MONTHS of ACUTE REHAB to snap out
Her website says: We stand behind Terri Schindler!

"The Abrams Report" - Thursday 11-06-03 --> (pro-Terri attorney) Pat Anderson and (pro-death attorney) George Felos: "Felos: Michael is a MODEL husband" - Anderson:"Terri got NO REHAB after $award$":

"On the Record with Greta" - Thursday 11-06-03 --> (Gov.Bush's lead attorney) Ken Connor, and followed by a panel discussion:
"Connor: INDEPENDENTLY investigate the circumstances and allegations...
Alred: Perhaps the PARENTS SHOULD care for her

"Radio Interview" --> (Michael Schiavo's so-called 1st girlfriend after Terri's so-called 'collapse')
MS: "[Terri] upsets my WHOLE LIFE with this, and this is ALL her fault."
GIRLFRIEND: "he can be the most INCREDIBLY MEAN person!"

[windchime]

"At the same time, we need to do everything in our power to make the American people aware of what is really going on here."

Thanks for your work on this, EV. I'll donate an additional $50.00 to Bush/Cheney '04 if you'll stuff a dirty sock in Sen. Harry Reid's mouth? :)

[Future Useless Eater]

Transcripted
"Radio Interview" --> (Michael Schiavo's so-called 1st girlfriend after Terri's so-called 'collapse')
MS: "[Terri] upsets my WHOLE LIFE with this, and this is ALL her fault."
GIRLFRIEND: "he can be the most INCREDIBLY MEAN person!"

[sweetliberty]

Thanks for posting that. I had heard it, but it is good to have the transcript.

[windchime]

Thank you, sweetliberty!

[T'wit]

>> At the same time, we need to do everything in our power to make the American people aware of what is really going on here.

On that, we have done amazingly well. Any public interest group will tell you, it is a very difficult thing to get a message out to millions of people. Yet undoubtedly millions of people across the country have become aware of Terri's plight, and most are sympathetic. You can see it in the level of news coverage everywhere, and in the growing respect for Terri's case.

I know several persons who were completely unsympathetic simply because they'd heard the standard media line. To them it seemed like another routine case of disconnecting a brain-dead patient. Their view changed dramatically when they learned the facts. Even the media have stopped using their more outrageous lies and adjectives like "comatose." Tell any woman you know about MS refusing to treat Terri's urinary tract infection, or about him stealing her engagement and wedding ring and melting them down to make a ring for himself. They don't need to know any more to figure out who's abusing whom.

We're doing okay, and God bless everyone who's helped. Pour it on!

[Mo1]

If every Republican will overload their email service, as well as the Senate switchboards, things will change here.

Oh I'm not just talking the Senate .. I'm also taking it to the people

The media might not want to report was is really going on .. but one way or another I will do what I can to see that the people know

The discussions at my family's Thanksgiving this years should very entertaining .. *L*