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Ending Life Humanely (Ed Koch on Terri Schiavo)
Newsmax ^ | Saturday, Nov. 1, 2003 | Edward I. Koch

Posted on 10/31/2003 9:29:52 PM PST by nickcarraway

The life of Terry Schiavo, a Florida woman who has been living in a vegetative state for 13 years, is being fought over by her parents and husband. Terry Schiavo’s husband has successfully petitioned Florida courts for the right to remove a feeding tube that keeps her alive. Her parents, who believe that she will one day recover, unsuccessfully opposed the husband’s efforts in court and later turned to Florida Gov. Jeb Bush and the Legislature for help.

According to The New York Times, the governor and legislature responded by passing a law “authorizing the governor to order the feeding of patients in a vegetative state who lacked living wills.” On the basis of this new law, Mrs. Schiavo’s feeding tube for both food and water has been reinserted.

If I were in a vegetative state, I would not want to continue to live or to be resuscitated. I have spelled this out in a living will. My older brother, Harold, who had a heart condition as well as kidney failure, was hospitalized when he went into a coma shortly before his death. His wife, as well as my sister and I, knew he would not want to continue life in a vegetative state.

When the doctors told us he would not recover his cognitive ability were he to come out of the coma, his wife – with our consent – authorized his plug to be pulled, which terminated dialysis and ended his life with the passage of a few days and the onset of uremia poisoning.

All of us believe we were carrying out his wishes. We loved him dearly, and we still mourn for him.

My initial response to Mrs. Schiavo’s case was to support her husband’s decision to end life support and condemn Gov. Bush and the Florida Legislature for interfering with that decision. I was not aware, although it was reported in the media, that the husband, who stated that his wife’s wishes were, like my brother’s, not to be kept alive through artificial means, has been living with another woman with whom he had a child and is expecting a second.

Furthermore, a $1 million malpractice judgment awarded to pay for his wife’s care will become his upon her death. He alleges the monies have been used for her care and the amount remaining is $50,000, which he will not take.

Faced with these facts, The New York Times editorial board favors putting Mrs. Schiavo to death as a means of upholding the right to die. I believe the situation is far more complex than The Times reports. The dilemma for me relates to what may be done to end Mrs. Schiavo’s life. It is not simply the pulling of the plug of a machine of massive intervention, e.g., a dialysis machine, but the ending of a basic need, in this case feeding.

Is that the same? Not long ago I would have said “Yes.” But I no longer feel that way. After talking with friends, including a doctor, I concluded we cannot say with certainty that depriving a person of food and water will lead to a painless death.

After removal of the feeding tube and before it was reinserted, Mrs. Schiavo lived for six days. If the feeding tube had not been reinserted, she still might have lingered for several weeks. How can we be sure she would have felt no pain during that time? Do we know that she would have consented to such pain? We do not.

I believe we should have the right to die in a dignified way and not to suffer pain or other indignities flowing from the inability to lead a life significantly free from infirmity and dependence. In my opinion, physician-assisted suicide as permitted in Holland and the state of Oregon ought to be available everywhere.

I also believe suicide is a decision to be made by the individual or someone clearly authorized by him or her to make it in the event of incapacity.

In this case, the desires of Mrs. Schiavo are sufficiently murky to cause me to conclude she should not be put to death. I think we can understand the husband’s concern for his wife and also his current relationship with another woman, the mother of his child. However, in view of these competing interests, he cannot be considered objective in this case on what his wife’s wishes were.

What he should do is divorce her. If Florida law does not allow for divorce under these circumstances, the Legislature should amend the law forthwith. Mrs. Schiavo’s parents should be given full custody and control over their daughter and her medical care.

On the issue of removing a feeding tube as a means of ending a person’s life, if we were putting a dog down, you would not be allowed to starve it to death. If you did, you would be charged criminally. Why should it be otherwise for a human being? Doctor-assisted suicide is far more humane.

Edward I. Koch is the former mayor of New York City. His commentary for Bloomberg radio is republished here.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Philosophy; Politics/Elections; US: Florida; US: New York
KEYWORDS: edkoch; florida; righttodie; righttolife; schiavo; terri; terrischiavo
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To: nickcarraway
The life of Terry Schiavo, a Florida woman who has been living in a vegetative state for 13 years, ... Ed Koch

Not according to this medical professional specializing in cognitive speech pathology:

Pathologist's statement in Terri Schiavo case

5. Based on my experience and my observations, Mrs. Schiavo is clearly aware of her environment and interacts with it, albeit inconsistently. She is able to comprehend spoken language, and can, at least inconsistently, follow simple one-step commands. This is documented both in the MediPlex records and in the following behaviors noted in the following video segments:

10. It is not my opinion that Mrs. Schiavo is in a coma or in a persistent vegetative state. In my opinion, she exhibits purposeful though inconsistent reactions to her environment, particularly her family. Her eye movements, easily observed on the videotape, are particularly suggestive that she recognized family members and responded. She also appeared to have sufficient sustained attention to track a balloon. It is not my opinion that these behaviors are merely reflexive. The entire range of behaviors listed above, and each and every one of them, are inconsistent with a diagnosis of persistent vegetative state.

This was taken from an affadavit given by Sara Green Mele, MS, CCC-SLP. The first three paragraphs give an overview of her experience and qualifications.

21 posted on 11/01/2003 7:10:10 AM PST by TigersEye ("Where there is life there is hope." - Terri Schiavo)
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To: nickcarraway
On the issue of removing a feeding tube as a means of ending a person’s life, if we were putting a dog down,...

At least Ed is clear on what Physician Assisted Suicide is.

22 posted on 11/01/2003 7:21:39 AM PST by TigersEye ("Where there is life there is hope." - Terri Schiavo)
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To: nickcarraway
Thank you, Mayor Koch!
23 posted on 11/01/2003 7:36:39 AM PST by manna
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To: cyn
...I don't know how any caring human being could look at the smile on Terri's face in the second picture in message # 18 and say this woman should die.
...Also can't believe that Ed Koch watched his brother die of uremia poisoning and say that is an acceptable way to die. I have seen it and it is horrible. Almost anything would be preferable to that.
...The friend I saw die of this was terribly bloated and yellow for about three days, her face was so bloated that her eyes were never closed. I tend to look at the reality of death instead of an abstract and idealized version of it.
...There are two positions on Terri and my mind is made up (read that closed if you want to) and I'm not going to change anybodies mind on the subject either
24 posted on 11/01/2003 7:37:29 AM PST by Graybeard58
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To: nickcarraway
She is not in a vegetative state. When you go to the grocery store to buy vegetables do they look at you? Do they try to talk? They might try with you but I've only seen it happen on Sesame street and I suspect it was a trick being played on me!!!!!!!!!
25 posted on 11/01/2003 4:53:05 PM PST by rneilwhitt
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To: Graybeard58
BOYCOTT FLORIDA! NOW! I was born there and I am ashamed of my home state. I live in N.M. now and I am initiating my own personal boycott. No juice, fruit nor any goods nor services of any sort. I have been e-mailing their Chambers of Commerce to inform them. HIT THEM IN THEIR POCKETBOOKS WHERE IT COUNTS. Their ultimate god is mammon.
26 posted on 11/01/2003 5:11:23 PM PST by rneilwhitt
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To: nickcarraway
It is interresting to see the evolution in his opinion. I'm glad that he lastly does not want her to be starved, and questions the husband's loyalty.
I really can't stand how the 'right to die' movement is moving towards systimatically killing the disabled, though. This frightens me terribly.
27 posted on 11/01/2003 6:42:10 PM PST by sfRummygirl (SAVE TERRI SHINDLER SCHIAVO...www.terrisfight.org)
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To: sarasmom; stands2reason; Diddle E. Squat; amdgmary
Sorry about the knee-jerk reaction type of comment I made where I didn't fully read the article. I really don't like Koch and am just sick and tired of hearing him after all these years.
28 posted on 11/01/2003 9:05:54 PM PST by Coleus (Only half the patients who go into an abortion clinic come out alive.)
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To: Coleus
Thanks for taking the time to explain, I can empathize.
29 posted on 11/01/2003 9:28:30 PM PST by Diddle E. Squat (www.firemackbrown.com)
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To: kenth
Please participate in getting the word out and have others participate in the same manner in the Terri Schindler Life Ribbon Campaign.

http://bellsouthpwp.net/p/c/pc93/terri_schindler_life_ribbon_campaign.htm
30 posted on 11/02/2003 2:49:41 PM PST by pc93 (A good site to visit is http://www.terrisfight.org . Oct. 15th 2pm death order must be stopped)
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