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TERRI SCHIAVO MISSING - REMOVED FROM HOSPITAL W/O FAMILY'S CONSENT [Update: She's back at Hospice]
Bay News 9 TV - Florida | 10/22/03 | dandelion

Posted on 10/22/2003 5:16:42 PM PDT by dandelion

Terri's brother, Bobby, just reported that Terri is MISSING!! He has been waiting all day to see her, he got the green light, and she's gone...

News 9 reporter said she's gone back to hospice, but the family does not know where she is and has NO CONFIRMATION.

BREAKING...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: hospicelackofcare; kidnapped; michaelisajerk; missing; schiavo; scumbag; terri; terrischiavo; terrischindler
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To: tray-sea
It should take more then 24 hours to stabablize someone that hasn't eaten in a week.

Since when did Michael ever allow Terri to stabilize with any of her last set of infections? Michael has never cared for Terri's well-being over his own selfish desires. I hope the world at large can "see" Michael now for the controlling, abusive scumbag that he is. Michael, need I remind you that the world is now watching your every move? Everything you've done and said is evidence that will be used against you in a court of law. Perhaps I should add, a CRIMINAL court vs. a civil court.

281 posted on 10/22/2003 6:06:32 PM PDT by Ohioan from Florida
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To: GYPSY286
How does the heart know how to "beat" if she has no brain?

The brain's primitive functionality located in the cerebellum remains active even though conscious thought found the cerebral cortex is non-existant. If EKG readings cannot find synapse activity, a person could have a beating heart for many years with a feeding tube, but it is impossible for a person to recover their cognitive activity once synapse activity ceases.

282 posted on 10/22/2003 6:06:40 PM PDT by irish_lad
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To: FreedomMan_CA
Look at some of the own language you have described them with.
283 posted on 10/22/2003 6:06:40 PM PDT by The Red Zone
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To: Gelato
"The husband reportedly has granted visitation rights:"

How *multiple expletives deleted* big of him! < /sarcasm >

284 posted on 10/22/2003 6:07:43 PM PDT by sweetliberty ("Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it.")
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To: The Red Zone
Gone as in DEAD? or gone as in not at the hospital?
285 posted on 10/22/2003 6:07:43 PM PDT by madison10
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To: The Red Zone
You mean she's passed?
286 posted on 10/22/2003 6:07:49 PM PDT by GYPSY286
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To: irish_lad
In reference to the mention of EEG and brain dead.....to my knowledge they haven't done a EEG to determine if Terri is brain dead. If they did one, it would show that she still has brain function and would, therefore, refute their own position. Believe me, if they had that in their arsenal, we would have heard about it.

My apologies if this point has already been made.
287 posted on 10/22/2003 6:08:40 PM PDT by Therefore
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To: diamond6
This family just too trusting. They have got to expect the worst and take action before it happens.
288 posted on 10/22/2003 6:08:40 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: madison10
I don't know...
289 posted on 10/22/2003 6:08:41 PM PDT by The Red Zone
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To: CindyDawg
What I meant was that if he isn't following the governors orders JB might send someone in to make him.

Do you think he would do that at this point?? I WOULD HOPE SO.....IF so....is there anyone here on FR who has connections to contact the Governor TONIGHT>>>>> SURELY he knows by now what is happening doesn't he??

290 posted on 10/22/2003 6:08:41 PM PDT by pollywog ((Please keep following Terri. Press Releases at terrisfight.org))
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To: sweetliberty
Supposably Terri is stable (awfully quick recovery) and has been returned to the hospice. Frankly, this bothers me. Could she have rehydrated so quickly and moved away from critical care? You'd think some of her organs need to be watched and tested, and be ready for emergency support.
291 posted on 10/22/2003 6:08:49 PM PDT by Ladysmith (Low-carbing works!! (223.0 (-37.6)))
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To: The Red Zone
"We tried"

NO, BIGAWD! NEVER GIVE IN THAT QUICKLY...I'M NOT!

292 posted on 10/22/2003 6:09:03 PM PDT by Budge ( <>< .)
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To: dandelion
10-22-03 WorldNetDaily article


WND Exclusive
MATTERS OF LIFE AND DEATH
Lawyer: Terri
still in danger

Family barred from visiting brain-damaged woman, judge drags feet on appointment of new guardian

Posted: October 22, 2003
5:15 p.m. Eastern

By Sarah Foster
© 2003 WorldNetDaily.com

Even though Florida Gov. Jeb Bush and state legislature yesterday halted the court-ordered starvation death of brain-damaged Terri Schindler-Schiavo, her family and legal counsel are afraid her life will be increasingly at risk as long as the courts allow her husband to remain her guardian and do not appoint a guardian ad litem as demanded by the special legislation that was passed.

"My greatest fear is that Michael [Schiavo] will order Terri out of the hospital before she is medically stabilized and rehydrated – as he did three times last August when she had pneumonia," said Patricia Anderson, attorney for Terri's parents, Robert and Mary Schindler.

"That is why we need a guardian ad litem," she added. "That is what Terri's Bill is about. We've got to have a guardian ad litem to put a stop to that kind of hijinks, because his primary objective is to kill her."

Schiavo very nearly succeeded in his five-year quest to end his wife's life by court-approved starvation. With only a few hours remaining before she slipped beyond the point where she could be saved, Florida lawmakers yesterday delivered to the governor legislation empowering him to order Schiavo's feeding tube reinserted, and Bush signed the life-saving law as well as an implementing executive order.

"Terri's Bill" specifically directs the chief judge (David Demers) of the 6th Judicial Circuit Court to appoint a guardian ad litem to represent Terri "upon issuance of a stay," but he has not yet done so – which Anderson views as a matter of urgency.

"Terri will be out of danger only when Michael is no longer her guardian and no longer has access to her," she said bluntly.

Crowds of demonstrators cheered wildly, as Terri was transferred by ambulance from Woodside Hospice in Pinellas Park, Fla., to Morton Plant Hospital in Clearwater, about 25 miles away, where upon her feeding tube was reinserted and rehydration begun after her six days ordeal of judge-ordered starvation.

Family locked out

No sooner was his wife admitted to Morton Plant Hospital in Clearwater, Fla., than Schiavo sent an order barring Terri's parents and siblings from visiting her.

The Schindlers were not informed of Schiavo's action, and only learned of it late that evening from Terri's brother, who had driven to the hospital to visit his sister and was escorted from the premises by an armed security guard. Bobby Schindler, 38, told WorldNetDaily he was told by the administrator on duty that Schiavo had left instructions that "no family members, no anybody is to visit Terri," and that they were to be given no information about her medical condition.

Schindler was too exhausted by worry over the fate of his sister and the events of the past seven days to express anger. But he said he's not surprised by this recent action by Schiavo.

"Michael's been doing this kind of thing for almost as long as he's been guardian of my sister," he exclaimed. "It's been going on for over a decade and it continues. Even after the governor stepped in and did what he did today, [Schiavo] continues to use his power as a weapon against our family and Terri."

It's one of many times her husband has ordered Terri isolated from family and those close to her. In mid-August, he barred a Roman Catholic priest from visiting her at Morton Plant Hospital where she was taken due to a sudden medical crisis.

Schiavo said his action that time was prompted by a late-evening visit by Monsignor Thaddeus Malanowski, a former Army chaplain, who had been asked by Terri's father to drop by the hospital to see how she was faring.

Even though the monsignor was on a court-approved list of visitors and regularly visited her at the hospice where she has been a patient for three years, Schiavo had a long-standing policy that no one could visit Terri unaccompanied either by himself or family member and that Malanowski had knowingly violated his order.

Schiavo's attorney Deborah Bushnell told WorldNetDaily that her client was concerned about Malanowski's "integrity" and felt the 81-year-old priest was not "the kind of person that he wanted visiting Terri or that he felt comfortable visiting Terri." Eventually he relented slightly and the monsignor was allowed to resume his visits subject to week-to-week approval by Schiavo.

Last Wednesday, the day Terri's feeding tube was removed, Schiavo's attorneys ordered family members barred from being alone with Terri at the hospice following Robert Schindler's release to the media of a videotape distributed in evidence that the woman is not in a "persistent vegetative state," as Schiavo's advocates claim.

Schindler admitted the tape was made surreptitiously in violation of a court order by probate Judge George Greer of the Pinellas-County Circuit Court. The video, which shows Terri alert and laughing and trying to speak, further indicates attempts at rehabilitative therapy, also banned by the courts.

Following the video's release, her family was told they were barred from visiting the dying woman "unless [Schiavo] or his representative is present."

In at least one instance, the "representative" that accompanied Robert and Mary Schindler to the bedside of their daughter was none other than the mother of Schiavo's mistress, Jodi Centonze, with whom he has been living for a number of years. He and Centonze have a 1-year-old daughter and are expecting a second child.

As WorldNetDaily reported, the Schindlers had been fighting their son-in-law for 10 years over the lack of care and therapy Schiavo as her guardian provided for their daughter, who suffered massive brain damage when she collapsed at her home 13 years ago under mysterious circumstances at the age of 26.

The ongoing dispute escalated five years ago when Schiavo petitioned the court for permission to end his wife's life by removing her feeding tube, insisting she is in a "persistent vegetative state" and had told him years before she would not want to be maintained "by tubes" and "artificial means." Although Terri breathes on her on and maintains her own blood pressure, she requires a simple tube into her abdomen to her stomach for nourishment and hydration.

The Schindlers fought tenaciously to keep their daughter and the case alive in the courts, but they have been basically blocked at every turn, in particular by Greer, who has had charge of the case almost from the beginning. When the seven-member Florida Supreme Court in August turned down a petition to review the case, the way was clear for Schiavo to starve his wife to death.

On Sept. 17, Greer scheduled Oct. 15 as the day Terri's feeding tube would be removed. At the same time, in separate rulings, he denied any rehabilitation for the disabled woman or a chance to be spoon-fed.

Information on Terri's fight for life is posted on the family's website.

293 posted on 10/22/2003 6:09:35 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: CindyDawg
"Yeah but her organs are weak right now. If she goes into renal failure, she dies. Her kidney function needs to be watched very closely for awhile."


I'd say that is what that vile monster, Michael, is banking on.
294 posted on 10/22/2003 6:09:35 PM PDT by PeyersPatches
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To: GYPSY286
That threw me too. Evidently she's back at hospice.
295 posted on 10/22/2003 6:09:57 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: Budge
When Bro said she's gone did that mean physically elsewhere? Or dead?
296 posted on 10/22/2003 6:10:00 PM PDT by The Red Zone
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To: CindyDawg
>>>that if he isn't following the governors orders JB might send someone in to make him

Since there is that patient privacy act, they can just say, "yeah, she has her IV and Food Tube". Doesn't legally matter if she is at that hospice.
297 posted on 10/22/2003 6:10:03 PM PDT by Calpernia (Innocence seldom utters outraged shrieks. Guilt does.)
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To: irish_lad
I think you mean EEG, not EKG.
298 posted on 10/22/2003 6:10:09 PM PDT by Domestic Church (AMDG...)
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To: irish_lad
They have no brain EKG function whatsoever

Thank the Lord for small miracles. No sinus rythym in the medulla.

299 posted on 10/22/2003 6:10:12 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: irish_lad
You are jumping from the point.

The choice of the time to die is up to the person in question and G_d.

And, FTR, some of us have had relatives with ALS. My uncle passed away 4 months ago from it. Seeing his condition deteorate so quickly was horrible, and after fighting it for 3 months, he gave up fighting and died.

And, since he was understanding of what he was facing, and also understood financially, he had a DPoA and a DNR.

As I said, it is their choice, not mine, or yours.

And, you still haven't answered the question: Is it morally acceptable to starve and dehydrate a living human, even if they are in a mentally reduced condition?

300 posted on 10/22/2003 6:10:19 PM PDT by Maigrey (These (liberals) are the same people who think therapy will help the terrorists. -GWB, 9/23/03)
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