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Life's lucky 'kick start'
BBC News ^ | October 13, 2003 | Dr David Whitehouse

Posted on 10/16/2003 7:33:43 AM PDT by AntiGuv

The Cambrian Explosion - when life suddenly and rapidly flourished some 550 million years ago - may have an explanation in the reaction of primitive life to some big event.

The explosion is one of the most significant yet least understood periods in the history of life on Earth.

New research suggests it may have occurred because of a complex interaction between components of the biosphere after they had been disturbed by, for example, the break-up of a super-continent or an asteroid impact.

Scientists say the life explosion might just have easily occurred two billion years earlier - or not at all.

Dramatic events

All modern forms of life have their origin in the sudden diversification of organisms that occurred at the end of the so-called Cryptozoic Eon.

Scientists have struggled to explain what might have happened in the previous few hundred million years to trigger such a burst of life.

Certainly, it was a period of history that witnessed the assembly and break-up of two super continents and at least two major glaciation events. Atmospheric oxygen levels were also on the rise.

But what actually caused the Cambrian Explosion is unknown.

Writing in the journal Geophysical Research Letters, Dr Werner von Bloh and colleagues, from the Potsdam Institute for Climate Impact Research, present a new analysis of happened.

They suggest that "feedback" in the biosphere caused it to jump from one stable state without complex life to one that allowed complicated life to proliferate.

"We believe that there was a change in the environment - a slow cooling of the system - that caused positive feedback that allowed the conditions for complex life," Dr von Bloh told BBC News Online.

Self regulation

Using a computer model of the ancient Earth, the researchers considered three components of the biosphere, the zone of life.

These were single-celled life with and without a nucleus, and multicellular life. Each of these three groups have different environmental tolerances outside which they cannot thrive.

The computer model showed there were two zones of stability for the Earth - with or without higher lifeforms - and that 542 million years ago the planet flipped from one to the other.

What caused the flip is not clear. It might have been a continental break-up, or even an asteroid impact.

There is some indication that the Moon suffered a sudden increase in impacts about the same time as the Cambrian Explosion. If so, then the Earth would have been affected as well.

This latest analysis also provides some support for the Gaia hypothesis - the idea that the biosphere somehow acts as a self-sustaining and regulating whole that opposes any changes that would destroy life on Earth.

Intelligent beings

Dr von Blow says that after the Cambrian Explosion there has been a stabilisation of temperature up to the present, and that the biosphere is not playing a passive role.

He also adds that there is an intriguing implication from his research which suggests that had the conditions been only slightly different, the Cambrian Explosion could have occurred two billion years earlier.

An early explosion would have meant that by now the Earth could have developed far more advanced intelligent creatures than humans.

Alternatively it could still be inhabited by nothing more complex than bacteria.

Dr von Bloh says that it will be of great interest when we find other Earth-like worlds circling other stars to see if they have had their own Cambrian explosions yet.

The timing of such events has implications for the search for intelligent life in space, he says.


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KEYWORDS: biology; crevolist; evolution; origins
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To: pgyanke
The Bible has NEVER BEEN PROVED INACCURATE.

That depends on your standard of proof. For example, the lifespans of the patriarchs in Genesis far exceed our experience of the normal span of human life. We have not a single documented example of a human living even 150 years; is that not pretty strong evidence Methuselah did not live 900? If you met a man tomorrow who claimed he was 900 years old, would you not be skeptical, for precisely this reason?

The point of the creation story isn't an exact reasoning of just how long it took but to give credit where credit is due.

A large number of people believe evolution was the means by which God accomplished his creation. They are surely giving credit where credit is due, no?

61 posted on 10/16/2003 9:24:23 AM PDT by Right Wing Professor
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To: Right Wing Professor
...'faith' as the acceptance of an assertion, on the mere say so of someone else, is not virtuous.

God disagrees with you. "Blessed are they who have not seen and believe." - Jesus to His Apostles after His resurrection.

What more can I say? God values faith and belief. He didn't give us impirical formulas, he gave us faith, hope and love. If you truly seek Him you will find Him. He, Himself, has promised as much.

62 posted on 10/16/2003 9:25:21 AM PDT by pgyanke (I know this isn't proof if you don't believe... but it is relevant to the conversation...)
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To: pgyanke
I've been referring to scientists who reach way back in history to events they did not witness to provide other explanations THEY can believe.

Okay ... then what's your explanation of the "meteor crator" near Winslow, Arizona? No one saw it. Is it forever a mystery?

63 posted on 10/16/2003 9:25:42 AM PDT by PatrickHenry (The "Agreement of the Willing" is posted at the end of my personal profile page.)
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To: pgyanke
What more can I say?

Not much. We'll have to agree to disagree. I'm not a proselytizing agnostic; there is a great deal of good in Christianity, and I'm not interested in converting anyone away from it. I'd just like to be extended the same tolerance.

64 posted on 10/16/2003 9:30:38 AM PDT by Right Wing Professor
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To: pgyanke
If we stay on topic, and I am, you will see I've been referring to scientists who reach way back in history to events they did not witness to provide other explanations THEY can believe.

I confess to having difficulty staying on topic.

The trouble with having to witness everything that happens for it to be true, is that there are no witnesses to anything that happened prior to about 1890 currently living. Does that mean your great-great-grandparents don't exist?

Science is about evidence. When there's little evidence, theories become more speculative. This doesn't make it an attack on anyone's religion, unless you don't believe the world around you has any reality.

65 posted on 10/16/2003 9:30:40 AM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: AntiGuv
You are of course free to ignore me as you deem fit.

I would ignore you now except for this:

You are not interested in honest debate and I am not interested in dishonest debate.

I challenge you to show where I have been dishonest on this thread! Your claims and assertions have been shown to be false (Iliad and Odyssey false comparison) and for this I am dishonest?

You are less than irrelevant, you are an insult to HONEST discourse.

66 posted on 10/16/2003 9:31:45 AM PDT by pgyanke (Big Bang Theory = First there was nothing...then it exploded.)
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To: PatrickHenry
Okay ... then what's your explanation of the "meteor crator" near Winslow, Arizona? No one saw it. Is it forever a mystery?

Give me a freakin' break! I'm not talking about actual geological record, I'm talking about scientists reaching out with their "beliefs" when they reach the limits of impirical study.

As to your question... could it have been an alien spacecraft??? Disprove it. Science looks at the world and presents answers based on prior occurances. Where they have no prior occurance to rely on... well, see my tagline.

67 posted on 10/16/2003 9:35:39 AM PDT by pgyanke (Big Bang Theory = First there was nothing...then it exploded.)
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To: PatrickHenry; no one in particular
Lemme see if I got this straight.

The Cambrian explosion was triggered by a luck strike of an asteroid.

The Cambrian explosion jump started all the evolutionary (adaptive, if you prefer) processes that lead to modern plants and animals.

Tobacco is one of these modern plants.

Therefore:

Lucky Strike Means Fine Tobacco.

LSMFT QED...
68 posted on 10/16/2003 9:35:48 AM PDT by null and void (sorry...)
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To: Right Wing Professor
Tolerance? Am I persecuting you? Sheesh, what's become of civil conversation? If I have a point to meet your assertion, I share it. You are free to ignore it, act on it, or pass it on. Sharing my beliefs on a thread that has gone this way by the participants isn't intolerance!
69 posted on 10/16/2003 9:37:36 AM PDT by pgyanke (Big Bang Theory = First there was nothing...then it exploded.)
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To: <1/1,000,000th%
...there are no witnesses to anything that happened prior to about 1890 currently living. Does that mean your great-great-grandparents don't exist?

Strawman. My point on this thread hasn't been that scientists have no ability to read impirical and historical evidence. My point has been that some reach into their own beliefs to fill the gaps in their evidence.

70 posted on 10/16/2003 9:39:58 AM PDT by pgyanke (Big Bang Theory = First there was nothing...then it exploded.)
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To: pgyanke
You take a book, and you read it, if you believe it, then you are religious, if you doubt it, then you are heathen, if you toss it away and work from the evidence, you are a scientist.

You have faith that the bible is true, therefore you feel comfortable in saying what you are saying, and that's great, but remember, you are basing your entire premise on faith, whereas science bases it on evidence.

There's a big difference.
71 posted on 10/16/2003 9:40:47 AM PDT by Ogmios (Who is John Galt?)
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To: js1138
Whatever became of the hypothesis that the direction of life flipped due to the production of oxygen?

The evidence is that came well before the 'Cambian explosion'. Sequence analysis of globins and respiratory proteins indicate that there was lots of oxygen around even before the evolution of the Eukaryotes. That's at least 1 billion years and more likely 2 billion years ago.

My own opinion is that the trigger for evolution of higher life forms was likely biological rather than environmental. I liked the hypothesis that it had to do with the evolution of eyes, which facilitated predation and led to an 'arms race'. I think this is an answerable question; I think that by delving through genomes we'll figure it out, even without fossil evidence; but at the moment the data are not there to answer the question.

72 posted on 10/16/2003 9:40:49 AM PDT by Right Wing Professor
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To: pgyanke
My point has been that some reach into their own beliefs to fill the gaps in their evidence.

This statement I agree with.

But most of these scientists are Christians.

73 posted on 10/16/2003 9:41:32 AM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: Ogmios
My response in #70 applies to your post...
74 posted on 10/16/2003 9:42:07 AM PDT by pgyanke (Big Bang Theory = First there was nothing...then it exploded.)
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To: pgyanke
Tolerance? Am I persecuting you? Sheesh, what's become of civil conversation?

No one accused you of persecuting anyone. You seem to want to take offense.

75 posted on 10/16/2003 9:42:24 AM PDT by Right Wing Professor
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To: <1/1,000,000th%
But most of these scientists are Christians.

And many pro-abort Democrats are Catholic... what's your point?

76 posted on 10/16/2003 9:43:32 AM PDT by pgyanke (Big Bang Theory = First there was nothing...then it exploded.)
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To: Right Wing Professor
I'd just like to be extended the same tolerance.

I was only responding to the words you wrote. No offense taken... just pointing out the choice of words.

77 posted on 10/16/2003 9:45:47 AM PDT by pgyanke (Big Bang Theory = First there was nothing...then it exploded.)
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To: pgyanke
Your post #50 is dishonest, whether intentioned or not. Here is why:

The Iliad and the Odyssey are FICTION written around an historical event; the sacking of Troy.

This is a dissembling obfuscation. One could just as easily state that the Testaments are FICTION written around historical events. You are the one that previously asserted that because no great inaccuracies have been proven in the historical elements, this then somehow establishes the veracity of the mythological embellishments.

The Iliad & the Odyssey are not by any stretch crucial to this analogy. Indeed, any historical fiction would suffice to establish the same point. That point being, no matter how many facts are accurate, they do not establish the accuracy of additional facts for which no evidence exists.

Here are two examples on either extreme:

1) A ten volume history of the world includes one sentence stating: "Krishna made it so." The accuracy of the other 999.9% of the work does not make that sentence accurate as well.

2) An epic mythological saga describing a cosmic battle of deities includes one sentence stating: "The mountains of Scandinavia trembled." The accuracy of that statement (there is indeed a Scandinavia, which features mountains, which do 'tremble'..) does not establish the accuracy of the remaining 999.9% of the work.

Both previous examples - the Homeric poems and the Hebrew testaments - merely fall somewhere between these two extremes.

78 posted on 10/16/2003 9:50:32 AM PDT by AntiGuv (When the countdown hits zero, something's gonna happen..)
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To: Right Wing Professor
I just noticed this reply...

A large number of people believe evolution was the means by which God accomplished his creation. They are surely giving credit where credit is due, no?

I won't debate His methods... He uses nature very often to accomplish His purpose (there are those that think the Israelites' crossing of the Red Sea was simply good geological timing). Evolution proving true doesn't disprove God's plan. However, I will say the "science" of evolution is VERY full of holes.

79 posted on 10/16/2003 9:51:31 AM PDT by pgyanke (Big Bang Theory = First there was nothing...then it exploded.)
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To: AntiGuv
I see no reason whatsoever why any deity would keep itself concealed for some enigmatic purpose. At such time when a deity makes its presence known, then I will of course have no need to look for gods since their existence will become quite self-evident.

Might I add that if our hypothetical deity is omnipotent then it has clearly chosen to arrange reality in such a manner that I will not believe in it, and so I am merely following in the god's plan.


I've been trying to say this for years, however, I've never been able to make it as succint and clear as this. I'll be stealing this one, I don't care what you say. ; )
80 posted on 10/16/2003 9:53:57 AM PDT by whattajoke
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