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Pat Caddell: ‘Nobody Knows What We’re Polling. … The Race Stands Unresolved’
Breitbart ^ | September 29, 2016 | Dan Riehl

Posted on 09/29/2016 7:44:36 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Pat Caddell talked to Breitbart News Daily SiriusXM host Alex Marlow on Thursday about the apparent disconnect in election polling, stating, “The secret is nobody knows what we’re polling.” Caddell continued:

There are different ways of doing it. They come out with different results … because the polling tends now to be very snap – who’s ahead, who’s behind. We’re not looking deep enough into the attitudinal structure of this race. And that’s where I have repaired myself, which is to really try to dig into that because that is what, in the end, what will be determinative.

“Some of these polls are good. Some are not good,” stated Caddell, adding:

We don’t know, for example – we have voter models based upon past performance – we don’t know whether that’s going to hold up. The Trump model indicates voters who have not been participating, but are registered, who are planning to come out and vote.

“On the Breitbart polling … we’re trying to look a little deeper at this to understand what’s at play. … The truth of the matter is the race still hangs unresolved yet,” asserted Caddell...

(Excerpt) Read more at breitbart.com ...


TOPICS: Campaign News; Polls
KEYWORDS: hillary; trump
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1 posted on 09/29/2016 7:44:36 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

In other words Trump is leading and they can’t figure out why.


2 posted on 09/29/2016 7:46:18 PM PDT by 38special (For real, y'all.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; LS; Ravi

ping


3 posted on 09/29/2016 7:47:29 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Pat Caddell is the only honest Democrat that I can think of. I like him.


4 posted on 09/29/2016 7:50:37 PM PDT by laplata ( Liberals/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Based Pat Caddell! I love this man :)


5 posted on 09/29/2016 7:51:30 PM PDT by Voluntaryist
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This sounds a lot like there is a groundswell for Trump and the polls showing him behind are the malarkey we’ve said they are


6 posted on 09/29/2016 7:52:34 PM PDT by Mjreagan
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

There may be (and probably are) some polls being conducted that really are based on good statistical principles and have the goal of truly understanding voter preference.

But there absolutely are other polls that are “pay for play” operations that poll until they get the outcome their customer is paying for and wants to hear. Or they rig the samples and weightings to the same end.

And I am certain we are presented with “poll data” that is totally made-up, fabricated, phony-facted BS, no different than the old “hockey stick” climate data was.

So Caddell is right. The problem is, “we” don’t know which is which, and how the game is rigged. For example, a pollster could easily rig the outcome to favor Trump, only to start tilting it the other way over time as a means of discouraging and demoralizing Trump supporters. When we have no way to tell which of the above 3 categories a poll fits into, it’s impossible to trust ones that favour our side and not the others. The only thing to do is to distrust them all.

And here’s another clue: look at the outfits that put their name on these polls. How many of them are favorable to conservatives?


7 posted on 09/29/2016 7:54:34 PM PDT by bigbob (The Hillary indictment will have to come from us.)
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To: Voluntaryist

I agree, but I’m a little astonished. I’m old enough to remember when Pat was a big McGovern guy.


8 posted on 09/29/2016 7:56:28 PM PDT by daler
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

In a few weeks the real “likely voter” will emerge and we’ll get some informative polls.
Early returns will help a lot.

I think we’ll see that the 2012 turnout model pollsters are using overstates Hillary support by 3%.
So it’s close.


9 posted on 09/29/2016 7:57:05 PM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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To: daler

I’m old enough to remember when I was a big McGovern guy LOL! Yeah, went door to door for him around my military base. What an exp[erience...

Life would be dull if we didn’t have to learn from it.


10 posted on 09/29/2016 8:00:41 PM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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To: mrsmith

Ripe for stealin’.


11 posted on 09/29/2016 8:03:28 PM PDT by DIRTYSECRET (urope. Why do they put up with this.)
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To: daler

George McGovern, whacky liberal, however, was also a B-24 Liberator pilot flew 35 missions over German-occupied Europe. Among the medals bestowed upon him was a Distinguished Flying Cross for making a hazardous emergency landing of his damaged plane and saving his crew.

35 missons over germany is nothing to sneeze at. Not your everyday snowflake safe space shrinking violet.


12 posted on 09/29/2016 8:09:55 PM PDT by HerrBlucher (For the sake of His sorrowful passion have mercy on us and on the whole world.)
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To: DIRTYSECRET; mrsmith

You beat me! I already have a tagline, but I’m going to remember that!


13 posted on 09/29/2016 8:10:49 PM PDT by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, If you can keep it.")
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To: 38special

I love it when a plan comes together...


14 posted on 09/29/2016 8:11:31 PM PDT by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, If you can keep it.")
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To: laplata

[Pat Caddell is the only honest Democrat that I can think of. I like him.]

Yes, and he also is the Cookie Monster.


15 posted on 09/29/2016 8:12:11 PM PDT by headstamp 2 (Fear is the mind killer.)
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To: headstamp 2

I like him for his honesty. He’s a good Cookie Monster.


16 posted on 09/29/2016 8:14:03 PM PDT by laplata ( Liberals/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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To: bigbob

Well, four years ago, most all of the polls, except for 2 or 3 polls favored Romney by a point or two going into election day. Romney lost by 4 points, so the polls were skewed 5 or 6 points in the Republicans favor. They were wrong. We certainly can’t claim they were biased against Republicans. Maybe it is just too difficult now to poll accurately.


17 posted on 09/29/2016 8:16:12 PM PDT by Dave W
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To: laplata

Agreed

I have nothing against the Cookie Monster. LOL


18 posted on 09/29/2016 8:16:28 PM PDT by headstamp 2 (Fear is the mind killer.)
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To: headstamp 2

I’d bet that Caddell will vote for Trump or write in someone. He detests the Clintons.


19 posted on 09/29/2016 8:20:32 PM PDT by laplata ( Liberals/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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To: laplata

It’s been a long time since I heard him say much good about Democrats in general.


20 posted on 09/29/2016 8:22:45 PM PDT by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, If you can keep it.")
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