Posted on 09/11/2016 2:58:09 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
Physical weakness caught on camera turns health conspiracy into a legitimate campaign concern.
Hillary Clintons health long the obsession of conspiracy theorists emerged Sunday as a legitimate campaign issue after Clinton nearly swooned and stumbled at a Sept. 11 commemoration, underscoring the sense that that summers sure-thing candidate is teetering at the worst possible moment.
The incident, captured on cellphone video showing the wobbly Democratic candidate being lifted into the vehicle by her aides after leaving a memorial service at the site of the World Trade Center attack, comes after two weeks of tightening polls that have seen Trump close to within striking distance nationally and in some battleground states.
And it capped off arguably the worst 48 hours of her general-election campaign that began when she called Trump supporters deplorables, a rare gaffe by a fastidiously stage-managed candidate.
Even as reporters waited for more details about the health scare, supporters for the first time were quietly pressuring a candidate who has been reluctant to share details about her health and personal life to become more transparent to avoid a drip-drip of doubt that could help an even less forthcoming Trump.
"The Clintons have this notion that they only go as far as they need to" in terms of disclosure, said an ally close to the former president and current Democratic nominee. "They can't afford to approach this that way."
Longtime Clinton adviser James Carville said that the doctors have all said shes healthy, but added: Its going to be something that people arent going to be able to stop talking about, so well see what happens next.
Its not the end of the world -- I think shes okay -- but it aint good, one person close to the Clintons said after the former secretary of state emerged from daughter Chelseas Manhattan apartment after becoming overheated at Ground Zero. It adds a new, unwelcome element.
In a wild-card campaign shaped by branding, spin and bombast, Clintons health scare is a rare event rooted in flesh-and-blood truth shes either healthy or shes not -- and on Sunday that question took on an unanticipated urgency.
Clintons campaign strategy is driven by an intent to demonstrate Trumps unfitness to serve based on temperament and intellect. The GOP nominee now has a powerful, visceral counter-argument that she is physically unfit to serve, reinforced by real video that raises new, and thus far unanswered, concerns about her health.
Presidential politics is, by design, a brutal vetting process, and the physical capacity of anyone seeking the office is the ultimate gateway question. But in Trumps hands it has become positively gladiatorial, thanks to his chest-beating emphasis on his own physical prowess, size, and stamina.
Partisans have long raised health issues in campaigns Ronald Reagans opponents repeatedly questioned his mental acuity, and Bill Clintons supporters were delighted by a January 1992 video of George H. W. Bush vomiting during a dinner with the prime minister of Japan.
But Trump has personally ridiculed Clintons health with a bluntness not seen in recent times, suggesting shes been hobbled by a serious 2012 head injury and mocking her repeated allergy-induced coughing fits. Mainstream media never covered Hillarys massive hacking or coughing attack, yet it is #1 trending. Whats up? he tweeted after a coughing fit interrupted a Clinton speech on Sept. 6th.
Donald Trump is hardly a physical specimen. Hes a 70-year-old fat guy who doesnt exercise -- let him run a hard mile on a treadmill, said Stuart Stevens, Mitt Romneys top strategist in 2012 and a frequent critic of Trump. What does Hillary Clintons health have to do with making Donald Trump more attractive or vice versa? This all seems to be kind of like mascot stealing. People get all excited about it and they think its going to help their team win, but it doesnt seem to effect what happens on the field.
People close to Clinton dismissed the incident as an outlier. Veteran Clinton fundraiser Alan Patricof, was stunned when a POLITICO reporter asked about her overheating episode on Sunday and said the Democratic nominee had never looked better than when he saw her last month in the Hamptons. "I saw her the other week at the Paul McCartney event I never saw her look better or happier, he said. She was having a hell of a good time. She was at her peak, dancing. The last time I saw her dancing was a long time ago."
I'm not worried at all, Former Pennsylvania Gov. Ed Rendell said. As long as she performs well and looks strong in the debates, that's all that matters.
Despite her bouts with seasonal allergies, Clinton has appeared energetic at her public events although one person in her orbit said that her decision to spend August fund-raising, off the trail, also served the purpose of resting up for the final fall push.
And several other party leaders and Clinton backers, who didnt speak on the record to avoid antagonizing Clinton and her Brooklyn-based campaign, told POLITICO she needed to offer a fuller accounting of her health especially after a transcript of Clintons FBI interview regarding her email server showed that she could not recall every briefing she received as a result of a concussion and blood clot around New Years 2012.
There will have to be some kind of accounting for this, said one former Clinton adviser on a day when Clintons staff kept her travelling press pool in the dark about her condition for most of the day. Whether she decides to do that, or just take the hits, thats her call.
By Sunday afternoon, the 68-year-old Clinton was already facing calls to release her full medical records something that her 70-year-old, corpulent, junk-food-gobbling opponent, who has proudly posed with a KFC chicken bucket, has thus far refused to do. Trumps own physician has admitted that the hyperbolic clean-bill-of-health he dashed off for the candidate was written to please his famous patient.
She ought to be come forward and talk about it, and probably, youre going to need to have a physician, said Pat Buchanan, who did not bring up then-President Bushs health scare when he unsuccessfully challenged him for the GOP nomination in 1992.
She would almost certainly have to have talked to a doctor about Sundays incident, he added, calling for the release of the full medical records on both candidates.
Having worked in a White House for a full first term, I can tell you that is a very physically and emotionally demanding job, said Matt Schlapp, who served as George W. Bushs political director and helped handle the fallout of an embarrassing incident where the commander-in-chief nearly choked on a pretzel while watching TV with his dog.
One of the good things about the way we run for president is that it also is very physically and emotionally exhausting, and in that way it serves as a good dry run, he added. We have two candidates who are senior citizens and I think it is good and right that the American public demands a full accounting of their health.
Sunday began solemnly and without incident. Clinton, along with Trump, attended the 15th anniversary commemoration of the attacks in New York, Washington and Pennsylvania, appearing to be cheerful and lucid, as she walked into the site wearing dark glasses. A campaign official said she intended to stay for the entire event, until about 10:30, but a Clinton spokesman said the candidate decided to leave at about 9:30 when she began feeling overheated.
Several other Democrats, including Rep. Joe Crowley (D-Queens) said the site was unshaded and hot and many of those in attendance had sweated through their clothes even though the temperature was a moderate 82 degrees with mild humidity.
Clinton walked, with the assistance of an aide, screened by her protective detail, to an area adjacent to the ceremony where she stood unsteadily until a van pulled up to take away; Cellphone video shows her knees buckling as she entered the vehicle and eyewitnesses standing nearby told reporters she lost one of her shoes under the van.
The small pool of reporters covering the event were restricted to a press pen for 90 minutes after the incident, and given no information until Clinton staffer Nick Merrill issued a statement saying the former secretary of state had been driven to her daughters apartment, was cooling off, and felt much better.
About an hour later, Clinton, wearing shades and toting a heavy handbag, walked slowly and conspicuous un-staffed out onto the sidewalk, waved to the crowd and gathered media, stopping to pose for a snapshot with a young girl, before climbing into an SUV for the drive back to her house in the northern New York suburbs. I'm feeling great, it's a beautiful day in New York," she said in a voice loud enough to be heard by the TV and radio microphones.
By mid-afternoon, Clintons press pool had been gathered at a hotel near her house Chappaqua but many questions remained unanswered first and foremost whether she had been examined by her doctor.
The political ambiguities are as great as the physical ones.
Trump, whose recent gains in the polls have coincided with a more restrained, stage-managed style, brushed off reporters requests to comment on Clintons problems. Privately, his supporters cast the developments as a positive for the campaign, but worried that Trump and his supporters would overshoot the mark reinforcing her claims that hes temperamentally unfit -- as he has done so many times in the past.
Twitter overflowed with Trump supporters celebrating her misfortune, with some backers claiming she was old and sick, while others spread the false rumor that Clinton had stroked out. One top Iowa GOP official tweeted, and then deleted, Cant handle the heat, get out of the race. #HillaryforHospice.
He quickly apologized, reflecting Republicans calculation that the incident could help Trump so long as they are not seen as gloating. I made a mistake in hastily tweeting from my personal account a poorly-constructed joke that was in no way funny nor amusing.
One Republican lobbyist who raises money for Trump offered the campaign similar advice: Trump should not say or tweet a thing about Hillarys health, unless its to say, I hope she feels better. He needs to be very careful and sensitive, and not reinforce the worse things people think about him, which is that hes an asshole. And at a time like this, he should let his top three or four surrogates argue that voters deserve to see her full health records.
A person close to Trump hoped and doubted he could toe that line. You're asking for a lot of nuance from a guy who doesn't really do nuance well, the person told POLITICO.
Some are betting she gets elected, dies, then Pence takes over.
When the press is left to push a false narrative with incontrovertible video evidence they get squirrelly.
They drop the evidence and instead rely on viewers to believe their “recollection” of events.
CELLPHONE FOOTAGE??? OMG...
Whoever owns that cellphone better go into hiding... IMMEDIATELY!
That is what she is saying happened. I have friends in the city and they each said it was nice today.
Yes, Kenneth Vogel is a total hack for the DNC and not even a shell of a journalist. He is the epitome of “churnalist” just spewing whatever Hillary and the DNC want him to say.
Pence?
How’s that gonna work?
NOW FNC is pushing the Mormon vote splitter because the establishment is terrified this will help Trump. Scum at FNC.
Why for did you post that comment? I just ate a fantastic meal and am now fighting the urge to upc you upvhuck. What a vile mental image you just painted. Yuck!
Biden is a blithering idiot.
They’d put in Kaine because he’s Her VP choice, has no baggage (at least as far as a 6 week campaign would reveal), and gets the “first female president” by proxy.
“Overheated my ass. It was not even 82 then...”
Even if, for argument’s sake, she had been “overheated”, that would not account for her needing to be propped up and her legs buckling a while later, when she was out of direct sunlight. Something really is up with her health.
Kaine may check the “First Gay President” box.
Oh wait, unless that was already Obola.
Kind of like the Paul Wellstone funeral spectacle?
They over-played their hand with that one; singing, hand clapping, smiles all around. . .telling everyone they must vote for the dem. . .you know. . .to honor the memory of Wellstone.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Wellstone
“’... but it doesnt seem to effect what happens on the field.’
Politico writer needs to look up the difference between “effect” (noun) and “affect” (verb).
Hey. I eat pizza with a knife and fork. I rarely eat pork, but when I do its a chop and ALL the meat I eat, including eggs are well done. At a fair it’s BBQ turkey legs. I guess that makes me deplorable.
Oh and my coffee is dark roasted, strong, and black.
Beans and brown rice feels good, I eat that a lot.
It didn’t scare me at all. In fact, I rather enjoyed watching it.
There's no way in hell Hillary would have been at the memorial service today, if she truly has pneumonia. If true, she should be in a hospital.
Her doctor claims she made the pneumonia diagnosis on Friday, yet that evening Hillary was at a fundraiser calling Trump supporters, "deplorables".
AND - an hour after her health episode today, she was on the street outside Chelsea's apartment telling the press, "I feel fine!"
Total load of bull. She's sick, but not with pneumonia. They're still trying to cover up her real health issues.
Biden didn’t run. Wouldn’t Sanders be the 2nd if Clinton is retired?
I think it’s incredible that “pneumonia” is the cover story....like that is a better alternative than the underlying reality? WOW.
So, "what's up" with the press in-curiosity with the coughing fits? Care to answer that, Politico? Health issues are "conspiracy nut falsehoods," said you.
And that doesn;t even get to what many pof us saw with our own eyes. Crooked didn;t "stmble" or "wobble" into the van. She was draggined into the van because it was impossible for her to get there on her own control and power. That's not pneumonia.
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