Free Republic
Browse · Search
GOP Club
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Donald Trump’s fairy tale economics is bad for his party and terrible for America
London's City A.M. ^ | July 28, 2015 | Ryan Bourne, head of public policy at the Institute of Economic Affairs.

Posted on 07/30/2015 3:46:16 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

The Republican Party must be tearing its hair out. For years, visitors from the US have extolled the strength of the party’s potential Presidential candidates for 2016. The pack is certainly more impressive than in 2012 and, with the exception of one or two candidates, they are ostensibly advocates of relatively free market policies. In a campaign against an unlikeable Hillary Clinton, many conservatives were quietly confident of victory in 2016.

But all these voices are being drowned out by the brash businessman and property magnate Donald Trump. Despite widespread criticism for his remarks about “rapist” illegal Mexican immigrants, Trump yesterday topped a poll of GOP candidates, garnering the support of 18 per cent of Republicans. At best, he looks set to draw significant amounts of precious airtime in the coming months. At worst, given that he’s unlikely to win the Republican nomination, he may decide to run as an independent, handing Clinton the keys to the White House.

At least in part, Trump’s success so far is likely to reflect his stance on border control. As in the UK, many Americans are worried about (illegal) immigration – and feel that mainstream candidates do not reflect their concerns. But the overwhelming reason for Trump’s success looks to simply be many voters thinking a strong businessman is preferable to someone from a political class that is perceived to be weak.

Yet businessmen often make lousy politicians. The US should not need reminding of this – after all, Herbert Hoover was a businessman with no history of elected office before becoming President, and is now regarded as a failure by all sides. The importance of managerial skills and deal-making in delivering clear goals within large, centrally planned firms is not easily translatable to the political arena – which requires persuasiveness and nuance, rather than bombastic fist-slamming.

But the most worrying aspect of Trump’s candidacy is his contribution to the economic debate. Trump is a nativist and a protectionist. He laments that America imports cars and exports corn – taking the mercantilist position that imports are bad and exports good, alongside a Ross Perot-like fetish for manufactured “stuff”. This shows complete ignorance of comparative advantage – and trade being about the exchange of things people want and need.

Trump therefore promises “fair” tariffs on imported goods, and a crackdown on China’s currency manipulation through taxes which reflect currency “undervaluation”. This would likely start a trade war at a time when a growing Chinese middle class offers untold opportunities for rich Western countries to export services. But Trump doesn’t stop there. He also wants to tax firms that “export jobs” and factories overseas. In particular, he laments the fact that many call centres are based in India.

This shows a remarkable misunderstanding of the way the world works. Call centres are based elsewhere because, at the moment, it is cost-effective to do so. But these specific jobs being overseas need not lower US output or welfare. In fact, it helps lower prices for US consumers, and workers are freed up to work in higher-value occupations.

Even on fiscal issues, Trump has bizarre views. He’s promised the seemingly inconceivable agenda of hugely lower tax revenues and reduced spending, but balancing the books while leaving the big entitlement programmes – which are the real, long-term drivers of US debt – largely untouched. In the past, he’s advocated a potentially catastrophic one-time high wealth tax to “pay off the national debt” – a $5.7 trillion liquidation of assets that would have seen substantial capital flight and severely affected the US economy. While he’s not advocating a repeat today, he still promises populist “no pain” solutions to America’s long-term fiscal challenges that seemingly ignore reality.

Quite simply, Trump’s nativist economics agenda and fiscal fairy tales are not what the Republicans or the US need. They’d better hope he fades sooner rather than later.


TOPICS: Campaign News; Issues; Parties
KEYWORDS: freetrade; tariffs; trade; trump
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-4041-55 next last
President Herbert Hoover ran overseas mining and charity operations. Not exactly equivalent to Mr. Trump's background. And almost no one could've foreseen or managed such a terrible economic depression. FDR certainly didn't. World War II spending pulled us out of the slump.
1 posted on 07/30/2015 3:46:16 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet

Which past presidential candidates are these folks referencing?


2 posted on 07/30/2015 3:58:17 AM PDT by Raycpa
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet
The jab at Hoover is only one of the problems with this article.

The writer either has a very poor grasp of economics himself or is purposefully misinterpreting Trump's words and deeds. Probably both.

3 posted on 07/30/2015 3:58:19 AM PDT by Former Proud Canadian (Save Western Civilization. Embrace the new Crusades.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Former Proud Canadian
...or is purposefully misinterpreting Trump's words and deeds...

In what way?

4 posted on 07/30/2015 4:01:12 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet

Another establishment hack. Incapable of understanding the destruction that his slavish acceptance of mass delusion is about to bring to the world and incapable of comprehending the mass hubris and denial with which he is suffused.


5 posted on 07/30/2015 4:02:05 AM PDT by Savage Beast ("You can, in fact must, shout 'Fire!' in a crowded theater. It just has to be the truth." J.Goldberg)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet
Trump is a nativist and a protectionist.

That is exactly what this country needs.

6 posted on 07/30/2015 4:04:39 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet

His utter misunderstanding of what he’s talking about in this article shows that Ryan Bourne has a remarkable misunderstanding of the way the world works.


7 posted on 07/30/2015 4:08:26 AM PDT by Savage Beast ("You can, in fact must, shout 'Fire!' in a crowded theater. It just has to be the truth." J.Goldberg)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: central_va

Given the alternative, I’ll take a little nativism and protectionism.


8 posted on 07/30/2015 4:11:44 AM PDT by exist
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet

(dammit, another one to parse...I won’t do quite as much here, though)

“The pack (of candidates) is certainly more impressive than in 2012...In a campaign against an unlikeable Hillary Clinton, many conservatives were quietly confident of victory in 2016.”

Until we got to know them a bit better - and once it became OBVIOUS that, other than Cruz, they were all “playing it safe” expecting to win by default, as McCain and Romney did against Obama.

“Despite widespread criticism for his remarks about “rapist” illegal Mexican immigrants, Trump yesterday...garnering the support of 18 per cent of Republicans.”

Now 25% for you, son.

“At best, he looks set to draw significant amounts of precious airtime in the coming months. At worst, given that he’s unlikely to win the Republican nomination, he may decide to run as an independent, handing Clinton the keys to the White House.”

Did it simply NOT occur to you that the CLEAR LEADER of the Republican field at this point might just run as a Republican in November 2016?

“...after all, Herbert Hoover was a businessman with no history of elected office before becoming President, and is now regarded as a failure by all sides.”

Carter, Obama, and the Bushes were politicians all with a history of being elected to office - not much good from them - SO WHAT IS THE POINT? Going back 100 years to discredit Trump, PLEASE.

“The importance of managerial skills and deal-making in delivering clear goals within large, centrally planned firms is not easily translatable to the political arena – which requires persuasiveness and nuance, rather than bombastic fist-slamming.”

Mr. GORBACHEV, TEAR DOWN THAT WALL!

“He laments that America imports cars and exports corn – taking the mercantilist position that imports are bad and exports good, alongside a Ross Perot-like fetish for manufactured “stuff”. This shows complete ignorance of comparative advantage – and trade being about the exchange of things people want and need.”

What I lament is that we are now COMPLETELY DEPENDENT on China for toilet paper, not to mention everything else. I doubt our toilet paper factories could run more than a few months without Chinese spare parts. In other words, free trade is good, TO A POINT.

“In particular, he laments the fact that many call centres are based in India.”

Didn’t know about this. This may get MORE VOTES than even his position on Border Security.


9 posted on 07/30/2015 4:15:55 AM PDT by BobL (REPUBLICANS - Fight for the WHITE VOTE...and you will win (see my 'profile' page))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet
Trump is a real estate tycoon who built his fortune in New York City -- a Marxist sh!t-hole that has almost nothing in common with the rest of America. There are few industries that benefit more from mass immigration and loose banking regulations than that one.

He's also run casinos and resorts. I'll bet most of the employees at his properties here in the U.S. are immigrants, and most of them speak something other than English as their first language.

In some ways, putting this guy in the White House is like giving ISIS the keys to the Pentagon.

10 posted on 07/30/2015 4:22:18 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("It doesn't work for me. I gotta have more cowbell!")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Former Proud Canadian

He wants us to export “services”. ???? Like, Finance, investment, real estate?


11 posted on 07/30/2015 4:25:31 AM PDT by steve8714 (I love Geico Rick.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: Alberta's Child

President Trump. Better get used to the idea.


12 posted on 07/30/2015 4:26:43 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: Alberta's Child

Whether you like Trump or not, this guy offers no data to back his assertions.


13 posted on 07/30/2015 4:26:54 AM PDT by steve8714 (I love Geico Rick.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: Alberta's Child
"In some ways, putting this guy in the White House is like giving ISIS the keys to the Pentagon."

You can actually say that with a straight face while Barack Hussein Mohammad Obama sits in the Oval Office?

14 posted on 07/30/2015 4:27:23 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You can help: https://donate.tedcruz.org/c/FBTX0095/)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet

Yes. I don’t want to replace one huckster with another one.


15 posted on 07/30/2015 4:29:01 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("It doesn't work for me. I gotta have more cowbell!")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 14 | View Replies]

To: central_va

I’m still trying to figure out what to do with all these President Perot bumper stickers from 1992.


16 posted on 07/30/2015 4:29:47 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("It doesn't work for me. I gotta have more cowbell!")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Donald Trump’s fairy tale economics”

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

“Fairy tale” as opposed to...what? What do we have now?


17 posted on 07/30/2015 4:32:06 AM PDT by Eccl 10:2 (Prov 3:5 --- "Trust in the Lord with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet

The British economist Ryan Bourne ( born 1987 , I have underwear older than him ) fails to look out side his window and see the hollowed out shell of a once powerful manufacturing nation that GB was?


18 posted on 07/30/2015 4:35:06 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Alberta's Child

I know where you can put them.


19 posted on 07/30/2015 4:35:26 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 16 | View Replies]

To: Alberta's Child

Like John Ellis Bush, Hillary Clinton, Mike Huckabee, Bernie Sanders, Marco Rubio, Martin O’Malley, Rand Paul, Joe Biden, Rick Perry....


20 posted on 07/30/2015 4:35:30 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You can help: https://donate.tedcruz.org/c/FBTX0095/)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 15 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-4041-55 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
GOP Club
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson