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President Herbert Hoover ran overseas mining and charity operations. Not exactly equivalent to Mr. Trump's background. And almost no one could've foreseen or managed such a terrible economic depression. FDR certainly didn't. World War II spending pulled us out of the slump.
1 posted on 07/30/2015 3:46:16 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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Which past presidential candidates are these folks referencing?


2 posted on 07/30/2015 3:58:17 AM PDT by Raycpa
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The jab at Hoover is only one of the problems with this article.

The writer either has a very poor grasp of economics himself or is purposefully misinterpreting Trump's words and deeds. Probably both.

3 posted on 07/30/2015 3:58:19 AM PDT by Former Proud Canadian (Save Western Civilization. Embrace the new Crusades.)
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Another establishment hack. Incapable of understanding the destruction that his slavish acceptance of mass delusion is about to bring to the world and incapable of comprehending the mass hubris and denial with which he is suffused.


5 posted on 07/30/2015 4:02:05 AM PDT by Savage Beast ("You can, in fact must, shout 'Fire!' in a crowded theater. It just has to be the truth." J.Goldberg)
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Trump is a nativist and a protectionist.

That is exactly what this country needs.

6 posted on 07/30/2015 4:04:39 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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His utter misunderstanding of what he’s talking about in this article shows that Ryan Bourne has a remarkable misunderstanding of the way the world works.


7 posted on 07/30/2015 4:08:26 AM PDT by Savage Beast ("You can, in fact must, shout 'Fire!' in a crowded theater. It just has to be the truth." J.Goldberg)
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(dammit, another one to parse...I won’t do quite as much here, though)

“The pack (of candidates) is certainly more impressive than in 2012...In a campaign against an unlikeable Hillary Clinton, many conservatives were quietly confident of victory in 2016.”

Until we got to know them a bit better - and once it became OBVIOUS that, other than Cruz, they were all “playing it safe” expecting to win by default, as McCain and Romney did against Obama.

“Despite widespread criticism for his remarks about “rapist” illegal Mexican immigrants, Trump yesterday...garnering the support of 18 per cent of Republicans.”

Now 25% for you, son.

“At best, he looks set to draw significant amounts of precious airtime in the coming months. At worst, given that he’s unlikely to win the Republican nomination, he may decide to run as an independent, handing Clinton the keys to the White House.”

Did it simply NOT occur to you that the CLEAR LEADER of the Republican field at this point might just run as a Republican in November 2016?

“...after all, Herbert Hoover was a businessman with no history of elected office before becoming President, and is now regarded as a failure by all sides.”

Carter, Obama, and the Bushes were politicians all with a history of being elected to office - not much good from them - SO WHAT IS THE POINT? Going back 100 years to discredit Trump, PLEASE.

“The importance of managerial skills and deal-making in delivering clear goals within large, centrally planned firms is not easily translatable to the political arena – which requires persuasiveness and nuance, rather than bombastic fist-slamming.”

Mr. GORBACHEV, TEAR DOWN THAT WALL!

“He laments that America imports cars and exports corn – taking the mercantilist position that imports are bad and exports good, alongside a Ross Perot-like fetish for manufactured “stuff”. This shows complete ignorance of comparative advantage – and trade being about the exchange of things people want and need.”

What I lament is that we are now COMPLETELY DEPENDENT on China for toilet paper, not to mention everything else. I doubt our toilet paper factories could run more than a few months without Chinese spare parts. In other words, free trade is good, TO A POINT.

“In particular, he laments the fact that many call centres are based in India.”

Didn’t know about this. This may get MORE VOTES than even his position on Border Security.


9 posted on 07/30/2015 4:15:55 AM PDT by BobL (REPUBLICANS - Fight for the WHITE VOTE...and you will win (see my 'profile' page))
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Trump is a real estate tycoon who built his fortune in New York City -- a Marxist sh!t-hole that has almost nothing in common with the rest of America. There are few industries that benefit more from mass immigration and loose banking regulations than that one.

He's also run casinos and resorts. I'll bet most of the employees at his properties here in the U.S. are immigrants, and most of them speak something other than English as their first language.

In some ways, putting this guy in the White House is like giving ISIS the keys to the Pentagon.

10 posted on 07/30/2015 4:22:18 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("It doesn't work for me. I gotta have more cowbell!")
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“Donald Trump’s fairy tale economics”

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

“Fairy tale” as opposed to...what? What do we have now?


17 posted on 07/30/2015 4:32:06 AM PDT by Eccl 10:2 (Prov 3:5 --- "Trust in the Lord with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding")
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The British economist Ryan Bourne ( born 1987 , I have underwear older than him ) fails to look out side his window and see the hollowed out shell of a once powerful manufacturing nation that GB was?


18 posted on 07/30/2015 4:35:06 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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Ryan Bourne is head of public policy at the Institute of Economic Affairs - UK

Stay the hell on your own side of the pond kid.

21 posted on 07/30/2015 4:42:38 AM PDT by McGruff (Eat a snickers...)
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Yeh that Trump the multi-billionaire. WTH does he know about sound economics? What morons of a lesser breed.


24 posted on 07/30/2015 4:57:05 AM PDT by tflabo (Psalm 1)
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Compared to Obama? (I cannot stop laughing at these fools). We have something REAL and RELATIVE to compare to. And here is a guy that made 10 billion dollars being compared to Obama who couldn’t qualify to run a MacDonald’s.


27 posted on 07/30/2015 5:13:17 AM PDT by ThePatriotsFlag ( Anything FREELY-GIVEN by the government was TAKEN from someone else)
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“Herbert Hoover was a businessman with no history of elected office before becoming President, and is now regarded as a failure by all sides.”

Okay...

Adolph Hitler was a politician with no history of elected office before becoming President, and is now regarded as a failure by all sides.


28 posted on 07/30/2015 5:23:11 AM PDT by sergeantdave
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“This shows a remarkable misunderstanding of the way the world works. Call centres are based elsewhere because, at the moment, it is cost-effective to do so. “

Yes, exploiting poverty centers of the earth and ensuring they remain at 50 cents an hour through deals with corrupt governments, and through threats to relocate to another poverty center does indeed make it cost effective.
Semi slavery IS cost effective. That was the whole concept of British occupation of India.

This British ass could be speaking of tea, salt, and textile industries in the 1800s.


29 posted on 07/30/2015 5:26:27 AM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office)
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Anyone who thinks Hoover was a poor president shows a stunning ignorance about him. He was a target of a Roosevelt socialist smear campaign, nothing more. Roosevelt came in on ignorant theories, implemented full socialism, and prolonged the depression by several years.
America was among the last nations to emerge from it.

Hoover was more successful BY FAR than Roosevelt.


31 posted on 07/30/2015 5:30:53 AM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office)
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World War II spending pulled us out of the slump.

That's a fallacy.

WWII did end the unemployment of the Depression, but when the government forces 9 million citizens into the military that will happen. For those Americans left at home, living standards were lower than during the Depression because consumer goods were so severely rationed.

The Depression was ended finally because, after the death of FDR, a Republican congress ended most of the Depression-era controls that had hobbled the economy. War does not create economic growth.

It just eats up capital manufacturing goods destined for destruction on the battlefield. This is not an anti-war screed, just an economic truth.

33 posted on 07/30/2015 5:35:32 AM PDT by BfloGuy ( Even the opponents of Socialism are dominated by socialist ideas.)
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OK, tell us what is good for America. Whatever is happening and has happened has been terrible for America. So please, you are so smart give us the solutions.


38 posted on 07/30/2015 5:55:56 AM PDT by mulligan (I)
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Fairy Tale Economics? When Obama has the printing presses running flat-out and cooks the hell out of the unemployment and growth numbers each month? That’s rich!


39 posted on 07/30/2015 6:10:28 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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Does this make any sense?

“This shows a remarkable misunderstanding of the way the world works. Call centres ...being overseas need not lower US output or welfare. In fact, it helps lower prices for US consumers, and workers are freed up to work in higher-value occupations. “

Are workers currently not free to work in higher-value occupations? If my engineering job were to be outsourced overseas, should be grateful because I would be free to work in investment banking?

This is the level of stupidity idiocy we see everyday from the over-educated idiots of the Left. They actually believe this stuff.


40 posted on 07/30/2015 6:12:35 AM PDT by pelican001
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Yawn. Another chattering sleep-inducing wonk blathering on about things he has no clue about. He’d fit in well on “Meet The Press”.


46 posted on 07/30/2015 6:54:52 AM PDT by Seruzawa (All those memories will be lost,in time, like tears in rain.)
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