Posted on 06/20/2015 11:51:16 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
JOHNSTON, Iowa – Sen. Ted Cruz says whether or not South Carolina removes the Confederate flag from a state house memorial is an issue for the state to decide and that he sees “both sides” of the debate.
In an interview with The Washington Post on Saturday, Cruz (R-Tex.) said that he understands why people equate the flag with both racial oppression and historical traditions.
“I understand the passions that this debate evokes on both sides,” the GOP presidential hopeful said. “Both those who see a history of racial oppression and a history of slavery, which is the original sin of our nation, and we fought a bloody civil war to expunge that sin.”
He added: “But I also understand those who want to remember the sacrifices of their ancestors and the traditions of their states, not the racial oppression, but the historical traditions, and I think often this issue is used as a wedge to try to divide people.”
Former Massachusetts governor Mitt Romney. the 2012 Republican presidential nominee, said Saturday that the flag should be taken down....
(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...
Exactly what I said! The Civil War erupted over States Rights. Anyone and anything that says otherwise does not know American History. I should say, UNREVISED American History.
Do some research and DON’T rely on Wikipedia.
One of the stooges on late night was ranting about the confederate flag and how blacks are forced to drive on road with Confederate General’s names, blah, blah. blah.
It wasnt even an issue until he spewed.
A STATE'S RIGHT to do what?
SLAVERY WAS NOT the reason for the WAR of NORTHERN AGGRESSION...
"But not to be tedious in enumerating the numerous changes for the better, allow me to allude to one other -- though last, not least. The new constitution has put at rest, forever, all the agitating questions relating to our peculiar institution -- African slavery as it exists amongst us -- the proper status of the negro in our form of civilization. This was the immediate cause of the late rupture and present revolution." - Alexander Stephens, vice-president of the Confederate States.
Don't you think Stephens would have known what he seceded for?
BS. They used slavery as an excuse
Question to you,what happened IMMEDIATELY after the North look the lands?
Of course it did. Apparently Southern Freepers can’t face the truth.
Your statement is true if his father is really Obama Sr. Now, if his father is really Frank Marshall Davis or some other creep of that era, maybe not!
Advertising Guy is right and you are wrong, DoodleDog
What did the north gain by their aggression?
Southern freed slaves more often than not stayed on the very plantations that held them
What does that prove? That they liked being slaves?
I WAS BORN IN MONTANA
assume much ?
Most families that go back enough generations will find a few black ancestors. Very few if any black families have no Caucasian DNA.
He has a long way to go yet. I DID support him, but don’t like the way he has been acting lately. I think somebody got to him!
Can you not read?
The issue of slavery led to disunion, and disunion was defended under the banner of “states rights”. That is, the disagreement over slavery led to secession, secession led to the war, and the South then defended its actions, while fighting the war, as “states rights”:
“As a panel of historians emphasized in 2011, “while slavery and its various and multifaceted discontents were the primary cause of disunion, it was disunion itself that sparked the war.”[3] States’ rights was entirely a matter in regards to the protection of slavery. The issue of tariffs was so unimportant that the groups looking for some sort of compromise did not even consider it.[4] Other important factors were partisan politics, abolitionism, Southern nationalism, Northern nationalism, expansionism, economics and modernization in the Antebellum period.”
As an excuse for what? It certainly was the triggering issue.
How about relying on the people who were there?
"African slavery is the cornerstone of the industrial, social, and political fabric of the South; and whatever wars against it, wars against her very existence. Strike down the institution of African slavery and you reduce the South to depoulation and barbarism." - South Carolina Congressman Lawrence Keitt, 1860
"What did we go to war for, if not to protect our [slave] property?" - CSA Virginia senator, Robert Hunter, 1865
"I am not ashamed of having fought on the side of slavery—a soldier fights for his country—right or wrong—he is not responsible for the political merits of the course he fights in ... The South was my country." - John Singleton Mosby
"We have dissolved the Union chiefly because of the negro quarrel...I congratulate the country that the strife has been put to rest forever, and that American slavery is to stand before the world as it is, and on its own merits. We have now placed our domestic institution, and secured its rights unmistakably, in the Constitution; we have sought by no euphony to hide its name - we have called our negroes "slaves," and we have recognized and protected them as persons and our rights to them as property." - Alabama Congressman Robert H. Smith
Cruz is right. It is up to SC to decide that.
Several southern states folded quickly.
However, Mississippi did it the right way.
Held a state wide vote and keeping the flag won by a large margin,
That is how you do it.
good biscuits
anotherwords mostly they were treated with respect , buried with honor, and remembered in family Bibles
Then so were the Confederate leaders of the time. Wow, who knew?
"What was the reason that induced Georgia to take the step of secession? This reason may be summed up in one single proposition. It was a conviction, a deep conviction on the part of Georgia, that a separation from the North was the only thing that could prevent the abolition of her slavery." -- Speech of Henry Benning to the Virginia Secession Convention
I knew you were joking about that "justify northern aggression pure and simple" line. No one could be that dumb.
anotherwords mostly they were treated with respect, buried with honor, and remembered in family Bibles
Yeah, I read Gone With the Wind too, but did they like being slaves?
As usual, head and shoulders above the rest.
Walker, Bush, and Kasich are avoiding the issue.
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