Posted on 05/28/2015 7:00:11 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
He said this on a conference call hosted by the Alabama GOP, which counts as one of its most honored members the leader of the anti-amnesty caucus in the U.S. Senate. Say this for Jeb: When he promised not to pander to conservatives in the name of winning the primaries, he meant it. Imagine how well received hell be on Morning Joe after he flames out of the race and does the inevitable Huntsman-esque media tour to explain how right-wing radicals stole the party from pragmatists like him.
Bush 2016: Resolute for amnesty. Theres a banner worth carrying into the general election.
And he said that he believes President Obamas executive actions to change immigration laws will be eventually ruled unconstitutional by federal courts. He reiterated that he backs a path to earned legal status, not citizenship, but earned legal status. Where people get a provisional work permit, where they pay taxes, they pay a fine, they learn English, they work, they dont receive federal government assistance and they over extended period of time they earn legal status.
Bush said he welcomed the opportunity to explain his views on both subjects because I find it interesting that people who share that view rather than stick with the view and try to persuade people about it in many cases have actually abandoned their views. I think the next president is going to have tougher times dealing with these issues than dealing with [Russian President Vladimir] Putin. If were going to bend with the wind, then itll be hard to imagine how we solve our problems.
I wonder if that shot was aimed more at Rubio, whom many pros even in Florida now think will end up bypassing Jeb nationally, or at Scott Walker, whose immigration flip-flops (replete with name-checking Sessions) have been even more shameless than Rubios. If its the former, the bit about giving up on persuading people is unfair. That was the whole point of including Rubio in the Gang of Eight: Schumer et al. thought, not irrationally, that if there was anyone who could sell a comprehensive immigration bill to the GOP base, it was the young, smooth-talking, Latino superstar from the swing state whom tea partiers had sent to the Senate two years before. If Marco Rubio cant make this happen, they figured, no one can. So Rubio tried, and not just in traditional pro-amnesty media outlets but in ones like conservative talk radio where he knew hed take flak. And he did it knowing that if he failed to persuade righties, it might cost him his chance at the nomination in 2016. Its a testament to his retail skill (and his confidence in that skill) that he was willing to accept a mission like that and able to extricate himself from it once he realized it was going nowhere such that hes now still in the top tier of GOP contenders. In fact, even after having declared his candidacy, Rubio still takes care not to distance himself too much from the Gang of Eight bill. Its not so much that hes come to think it was a mistake, its that the votes simply arent there for it in the House. Theres no use continuing to try to persuade people, he argues, if a bipartisan campaign to pass the Gang of Eight bill two years ago went nowhere. Meanwhile, behind closed doors, hes busy reminding GOP millionaires that he went to bat for them on amnesty, a wink-wink that he can be trusted to try again as president. Point being: Its not so much that Rubios less willing than Jeb is to convince people to support amnesty, its that hes smarter about when and where that persuasion should happen.
Also, since when is Jeb a model of unbending consistency on immigration reform? He supported a path to citizenship in 2012, then came out with a book in 2013 calling for a path to legal status but not citizenship (even though he knows that granting legal status to illegals will lead inexorably to citizenship), then said in an interview during the book tour that hed support a path to citizenship if one could be devised that didnt create an incentive for more illegal immigration. Wouldnt a path to legal status create an incentive too? Rest assured, if he ends up as nominee and has to compete with Hillary for Latino voters, hell come up with a way to finesse his support for legal status so that a path to citizenship in some form also ends up on the table, especially once Democrats go after his plan as de facto second-class status for illegals. The smarter position one now taken, not surprisingly, by Marco Rubio is to avoid taking citizenship off the table while emphasizing that securing the border is an absolute prerequisite to legalization of any kind. If you fight this battle on the hill of what rights should we grant to illegals?, youre fighting on Democratic turf. Fight it instead on why cant we secure our border as our first priority? Why Jeb thinks hes gaining some sort of advantage over Rubio, either in the primary or the general, by insisting on comprehensive reform instead of making a rhetorical move towards security first is baffling.
I wonder why the Great One picked Bush as his vp? Was it to assuage the hacks, who originally wanted Bush?
Great movie :)
Indeed. Or even quicker. They fear no work.
There’re a lot of people here who denigrate them any chance they get. I don’t grock it.
The Poo-bahs wanted Jerry Ford as “co-president” to “reign him in” and Poppy Bush was the lesser of two evils.
Ever notice those people ALSO line up with the lesser evil side of things?
Exactly.
There’s a reason Mexicans want to move here and the thought of moving there is out of the question for most of us.
Mexicans go to Cuba on vacation. Move to Mexico John.
Make it a socialist paradise. GTHOOMC
I’m here 5 to 12 hours a day. I notice plenty.
Oh he bends over alright...
I figured you might. The problem is that few here do notice these things. Or ever discuss them and ask why that is.
Thanks. I wonder if there has ever been a more yawning gap between the President and Vice President in terms of sheer leadership. Heck, in terms of everything.
His type always wants it both ways and have for about 5,000 years now, at least.
That way ends in Elba for many.
This degenerate thinks he’s royalty.
The USA needs a 10 year minimum moratorium on ALL IMMIGRATION, legal or illegal.
The Jebster is busy getting his troops in FL in line, I heard my local House member tell us to vote for him this very evening.
The ONLY CANDIDATE THAT I WILL NOT SUPPORT UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES is this dope.
FUJB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Doesn’t make it any less true.
It is the only thing I agree with Jesse Jackson on....”Get out da Bushes. No more Bushes”
41 had been with the OSS/CIA since before Yale. His family has been with the behind-the-scenes power people since at least the 1200’s. I guarded him and his aircraft, vehicles at night on a regular basis when he was travelling to Iowa to campaign for the nomination while I worked for Al Haig in the daytime.
Wouldn’t it be nice IF the Republican candidates would just cast slurs on the Democrats running for office, rather than their fellow Repubs. I heard on the news there are 19 Repubs running for President...so far. Can’t they cull a few out, starting with Jeb.
Jeb: Bend? I'm a Country without borders guy. When there are no borders, what's the big deal?
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