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The Ben Carson Super PAC has some money issues (Won't support Ted Cruz if Carson doesn't run)
Hot Air ^ | December 22, 2014 | Jazz Shaw

Posted on 12/22/2014 3:53:30 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

The campaign to draft Dr. Ben Carson into a presidential run is clearly bigger than some flash in the pan and worthy of serious consideration, particularly given his showings in multiple polls. (Of course, I’ve been of the opinion for some time that he really doesn’t need that much coaxing and may well be enjoying the idea of needing to be teased into the fight.) One group which is most directly involved in the effort is Run Ben Run, which has already raised more than $12M toward the effort. But where is that money now? For the most part, it’s already gone.

Mr. Giles, who is preparing to be campaign chairman, projected raising $100 million to fuel a Carson campaign through the first four primaries by tapping small donors. Already, the Run Ben Run effort, a “super PAC,” has raised $12.2 million.

But behind that impressive cash haul is the problem facing most small-donor fund-raising: The group spent most of its income on direct mail and similar activities to raise its funds, according to the Federal Election Commission.

Armstrong Williams, Mr. Carson’s business manager and closest adviser, whose nickname for his friend is “Seabiscuit,” complained that Run Ben Run exists “to benefit the people that run it, not the Ben who’s running.”

The super PAC’s greatest asset is its record of thousands of small donors excited by Mr. Carson. But a Carson campaign would have to pay to use that list.

Both of the arguments in play over the PAC money should be familiar to political observers. On the one hand, running any sort of broad effort to raise awareness is expensive. Television ads in large markets are obviously pricey, but direct mail isn’t cheap either, particularly if you are talking about a national campaign rather than a single district. Sometimes the best you can do is hope to raise enough cash to pay for the next round of mailings, and in the process somehow raise the name recognition of the candidate.

But at the same time, many PACs have been plagued with accusations of blowing donor funds on fat salaries for the founders while doing very little in terms of actual grassroots activism. This has included Tea Party groups as well as liberal activist groups. Donors always need to do their own homework and find out how well the funds are being managed.

But what if they raise all this money and do all the work and Carson decides not to run? Will the energy be diverted to another candidate, let’s say… Ted Cruz? Probably not.

I don’t think we would support [Texas Sen. Ted] Cruz because I don’t think he can win.

I don’t think we would support Jeb Bush or Mitt Romney, because they’re just too close to the center and it’s more of the same…

I like what Ted Cruz says about the issues, but I think he’s a bull in a china shop. He’s too polarizing. The media will absolutely fry him every time he opens his mouth—not that they won’t go after Carson—but Carson is not loud. He’s not forceful. Ted Cruz will go on for hours about a given subject jumping up and down—again, I like his positions—I just don’t think his methods can get him elected.

Personally, I think Carson is serious, but at the same time realistically cautious. If it looks like there’s any daylight available for him to seize the nomination, I have no doubt that he’ll get in there and give it his best shot. But if the prospects look hopeless, he strikes me as somebody who is grounded enough to just move on and not sink that much of his life into a lost cause. He’s got a lot of work to do in terms of getting his message discipline down and avoiding self-inflicted wounds, but his obvious credentials as a genuine outsider will buy him a lot of forgiveness for that from the base.


TOPICS: Campaign News; Parties
KEYWORDS: bencarson; bush; establishment; fakeconservative; fakeconservatives; rino; rinos; romney; tedcruz
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To: entropy12
There was no government before George Washington. Military experience is not political experience.

You never did respond to post 17, which reveals that you don't know anything about the father of our country.

41 posted on 12/23/2014 7:45:05 PM PST by ansel12
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I think there are two kinds of candidates to be wary of: 1).the one who dreams of being president and 2). the one you have to “draft”. I’d prefer a candidate who reluctantly realizes that they are the only one who can execute his/her ideas, so they take on the chore, and work like a dog at it.


42 posted on 12/23/2014 7:50:43 PM PST by Regal
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To: ansel12

You are still on my ignore list.
There is only one person on my ignore list so far.


43 posted on 12/23/2014 10:29:16 PM PST by entropy12 (Dumb and Dumber to borrow money from China to protect oil flow to China from middle-east.)
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To: entropy12

Judging by your ignorance of George Washington, and American history, you should be doing less ignoring, and more paying attention.

Pretending to play such a childish game as having an “ignore” list of freepers who you don’t agree with, should be embarrassing to you, especially when looking at this thread.


44 posted on 12/23/2014 11:29:49 PM PST by ansel12
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To: ansel12

You are the only one Freeper I ever placed on my ignore list.
I respond to every one else. Do not bother addressing me any questions. I will never post a response to you.


45 posted on 12/23/2014 11:38:11 PM PST by entropy12 (Dumb and Dumber to borrow money from China to protect oil flow to China from middle-east.)
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To: entropy12
George Washington!

George Washington was actually what we would call career politician, he entered elective politics in 1755 and didn't leave his final office until 42 years later after serving more than a quarter century in various elective offices.

Read post 17.

46 posted on 12/24/2014 7:01:31 AM PST by ansel12
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To: upsdriver; 2ndDivisionVet
Oh, c’mon, most military personnel are busy emptying waste baskets and filling out paperwork. I appreciate the work all of them do, especially those who go into battle, but I also appreciate not having stinking garage sitting on the curb.

You can't be a veteran, because that is an incredibly ignorant statement.

47 posted on 06/18/2015 7:54:00 AM PDT by ansel12
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