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President Trump: What would he be like?
Enter Stage Right ^ | April 25, 2011 | Daniel M. Ryan

Posted on 04/24/2011 8:49:08 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Although he has not announced his candidacy, Donald Trump is being treated as if he had. In fact, he's already a serious contender for the Republican Party nomination and the Presidency itself if nominated. I'm under no illusions as to the difficulties Candidate Trump will face in the months ahead should he go through with it. Mr. Trump has already been exposed as a former liberal, and comparisons of him to Ronald Reagan (himself a former liberal) seem stretched. President Reagan first made his national mark as a conservative with "A Time For Choosing." That speech was made back in 1964. At the time he made it, he had been building up his conservative stand for about ten years.

Mr. Trump's Damascus conversion is recent. Consequently, it's easy to knock him as an opportunist: to say that he just smells votes and is adjusting his tune to get them. The kernel of truth in that claim ties in with his undoubted talent as an entrepreneur. Yes, Donald Trump shifted to a conservative stance and "Mr. Birther" as a businessman.

In a nutshell, for what it's worth, Mr. Trump has a success secret that's enabled him to make a huge amount of money in the luxury condo business. I don't know if he got it from his father, or whether he discovered it himself, but it goes something like this: "There's what people say they want, and there's what they really want. People are sometimes ashamed of what they really want, even though they shouldn't be. Find a way to break through the shame, and deliver what they really want, and you'll be rich." This success maxim is precisely what Mr. Trump effected with luxury condominiums. When he was starting out in high-end real estate, luxury condos and co-ops were old-fashioned-tasteful and understated. Rather than advertising or displaying the owners' wealth, they tended to hide it. Donald Trump built condos that showed wealth. He managed to break through the stigma of such condos being "slick" or "ostentatious." In so doing, he built and sold what his customers really wanted but ashamed to ask for explicitly.

He doing so took a difficult kind of daring: the art of being shameless without being tasteless. There are few entrepreneurs who can walk that tight-wire. One of them, ironically enough, is Hugh Hefner. Had Mr. Hefner been no more than Larry Flynt, he would have been drummed out of business by the law amidst the mocking sound of popular applause. Had Donald Trump gone gaudy, he would have been a late-'70s epiphenomenon like Studio 54; nothing more. By being tasteful, he avoided that fate and stayed on the wire.

With regard to his championing the birther issue, Mr. Trump is indeed up to his old tricks. He managed to discern a lot of underground support for the issue that didn't die. He also saw the stigma attached to people like Orly Taitz who shouldered the burden of pursuing what the mainstream media dismissed as a patent falsehood. He saw the consequent opportunity in the birther controversy, and he took it. As a result, he's now a serious contender for the Presidency.

Not just because of his pro-birther stance; far from it. His championing of protective tariffs on goods imported from mainland China shows the same flair. Give 'em what they really want, but don't dirty your hands while doing so; make sure your hands and your brand stay clean. With respect to Chinese trade policy, he's using the currency-manipulation claim to stay clean.

President Businessman

Mr. Trump, of course, has other business talents more easily noticed. He and his many supporters hold them up as strengths. One obvious trait is his toughness. I'm sure he sized up the mainland Chinese rulership as people who'll bend if they're confronted firmly and toughly.

Another is his outspokenness; for it, he's held up as brave. In fact, his populist frankness is precisely the root of his populist popularity. Again, he smells his kind of opportunity: people widely dislike mainstream politicians, but vote for them anyway. They do so because of the stigma attached to voting for people who don't live up to the Washington standard of professionalism. Witness the fate of Sarah Palin.

On the darker side of his success traits, there's his opportunism with regard to legalities. His companies have been no strangers to Chapter 11 and the bankruptcy courts. He has tried to use eminent domain to push out a recalcitrant landowner when he wanted to put a new parking lot beside one of his casinos.

That side to him is ancillary as a businessman, as it's subordinate to giving his customers what they really want. He can point to a product, like a casino, a golf course or a stunning building full of luxurious condominiums, that makes it all worthwhile. The trouble is, that side is not ancillary to a President. The main job of the President of the United States is to head up the executive branch of the United States government. Observing legalities is at the heart of the job.

I'm sure Mr. Trump sees it as being the nation's CEO. It actually isn't, because Congress makes the laws, but someone of his calibre will be tempted to see Congress as his subordinates. Given his thin-skinedness, President Trump would likely engage in at least one feud with Congress: the most probable co-feuder would be the Democrat who most jealously guards the legislative branch's rights. Should Mr. Trump become President, watch for filibusters of the legislation he sends over. More to the point, watch for him using grey areas of the Constitution to his advantage. He will not be a strict constructionist. In the business world, a strict constructionist is a cost-plus Quaker type who had little taste for negotiating.

In foreign policy, his thin skin is likely to be his undoing. Negotiations revolve around stances, which are modified if need be as the negotiation continues. In the world of government, this practice translates into "his word's no good" or "he's blustering." Cagey diplomats and shrewd foreign ministers will treat his demands and pronouncements as little more than negotiating ploys or venting. It's almost a certainly that the high officials of the People's Republic of China will treat his tariff policy as a chip on the bargaining table, at most. Needless to say, it has to get though Congress first.

His nationalistic talk about Middle East oil will be treated in two ways. When the chips are down, the only way to enforce his "oil for the Americans" stance is all-out war. Publicly, he and Americans will be excoriated as imperialists and warmongers. Privately, he'll be sized up as a blusterer. He'll find out quickly that a sovereign Middle East government is not the same thing as a municipality. When heads of foreign governments refer to "mere businessmen," they mean it.

He'll likely be baited on the world stage. Foreigners doing so would be good for his popularity with the voters, and it would generate patriotic feuds, but it won't lead to much done unless he plays by the rules. He'll be sized up as George Bush without the humility.

Unless he does an about-face and becomes another Washington insider, it's unlikely he'll accomplish anything of significance in the foreign-policy arena - unless he decides to press more Yankee tax dollars into foreign hands. He'll have to bend on his more nationalistic goals unless he goes unilateralist. The President of the United States has no standing in foreign governance. It's not that hard for a foreign minister or head of government to say: "then 'we' won't be doing anything at all" and sticking to it. Instead of the tough negotiators Mr. Trump expects to face, he'll face the foreign answer to tough judges. A lot of the tricks used by the striped-pants boys take that lack of standing into account and work around it.

He may succeed in getting some of his domestic plan though Congress even though his techniques don't work on the suspicious, cagey and independent-minded. His tariff plan will not be one of those successes. He putting it to Congress will reveal how many Yankee dollars are coined with cheap Chinese goods, and how many Yankee jobs currently depend on "China Inc." doing its thing. It's too easy for free traders to run an ad that says: "Donald Trump To Wal-Mart Employees: 'You're Fired.'"

Any attempt on his part to slash government spending, or to abolish the Department of Education, will reveal how many Yankee vested interests in government spending there are. Again, there'll be lots of opportunity for him to show his populism with headline-grabbing speeches and feuds. The wheels of publicity will turn 'round and 'round for him; that's for sure. But, given his character and how his weak points will be used, it's not likely that his publicity genius will translate into much of substance. Unless, of course, he bends with the Washington wind and becomes another insider.

Sad to say, the political world – more so the geopolitical world - has a completely different standard of toughness; it's one that Mr. Trump has never faced. At its core, whether rightly or wrongly, is disdain for money. Only that disdain gave President Roosevelt, whether rightly or wrongly, the toughness to lambaste "the malefactors of great wealth."


TOPICS: Issues; Parties; State and Local; U.S. Congress
KEYWORDS: certifigate; china; obama; trump
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Any attempt on his part to slash government spending, or to abolish the Department of Education
Has he said anything about slashing spending or abolishing the Department of Education?
41 posted on 04/24/2011 9:43:11 PM PDT by samtheman
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

WH interns wanted- only Eastern European fashion model types need apply...


42 posted on 04/24/2011 9:48:13 PM PDT by citizencon
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
You seem to find it odd that a staunch conservative political forum like FR would try to dismantle a liberal like Trump.

For me, there is no value to be found in Trump's opportunism, upstart antics or his recent convenient conversions. Those aren't traits which conservatives embrace. Conservatives also do not find the cult of personality rewarding. We do find it toxic. Frankly, does somebody need to run for potus in order to trash Obama? I think not.

43 posted on 04/24/2011 9:48:59 PM PDT by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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To: Rudder

Personally I’m looking for someone with military experience West or hopefully someone who will see the need and step forward..


44 posted on 04/24/2011 9:50:34 PM PDT by montanajoe
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

With these attitudes, we’ll all end up voting for Huckamneylenty/Huckamneylenty 2012, watch my words!


45 posted on 04/24/2011 9:52:40 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: FreeReign
"So far he is silent and doesn't attack Obama and the Democrats on their problems with free markets, capitalism, limited government, individual rights, conservatism and the Constitution (outside of the NBC requirement)."

Trump: Obama Is to Blame For High Oil Prices
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-gop/2702964/posts

Trump: Obama ‘Not doing a very good job’; ‘Seems he is totally over his head’
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2642383/posts

GOP SELLS OUT IN OBAMA BUDGET DEAL
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2702874/posts

A Report on Trump, West at the Boca Tea Party rally today (vanity - Freeper "Untwist")
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2705963/posts

TRUMP TO OBAMA: YOU'RE FIRED
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2701600/posts

Trump: Obama spending millions to hide his past
http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2695980/posts

Trump addresses tea party crowd in Boca Raton (hundreds gathered)
http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2705935/posts?q=1&;page=151

And what most of the arguing over Trump is really about,...

Donald Trump Just on Fox News: Bring on the Trade War with China
http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2624420/posts

Donald Trump Says He Would Threaten to Tax China 25%
http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2698460/posts

Donald Trump: Chinese ‘Looking to Strip Us of Everything’
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2666755/posts

Trump will save USA from Red China
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-gop/2707389/posts It's going to happen anyway.

China Proposes To Cut Two Thirds Of Its $3 Trillion In USD Holdings
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2709808/posts

China should cap forex reserves at 1.3 trillion U.S. dollars: China banker
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2709919/posts

On natural resources,...

Africa set for five year China-led boom
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2708846/posts

China’s Central Bank Recommends Gold For “Value Preservation”
(Forbes)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2695628/posts

Marcellus Shale gas may head overseas
(to China)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2703013/posts

Trump: Foreign Interests ‘Decimating’ US
(oil and other commodities)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2698105/posts

46 posted on 04/24/2011 9:55:50 PM PDT by familyop (cbt. engr. (cbt), NG, '89-' 96, Duncan Hunter or no-vote.)
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To: familyop
GOP SELLS OUT IN OBAMA BUDGET DEAL

The article makes no mention of Trump.

BTW, Trump doesn't want the Republicans to lead on the budget. That's exactly what sell out Boehner is doing.

47 posted on 04/24/2011 10:02:21 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: FreeReign
Palin, Bachmann and West were speaking up against Obama long before Trump did

During this "long" time did Palin or Bachmann, in a national forum with more than their followers listening, call Obama out as the worst president in history? No. People are listening to what Trump has to say and he is taking it to Obama and the MSM. We need more than a conservative, there's lots of them around. We need more than a Republican, there's lots of them around also. We need a leader who understands we are in a war and is unafraid to go after the enemy, rough and tumble, no holds barred. If someone wants to challenge Trump for this position, they better get themselves on the field of battle. Trying to convince people what a good conservative they are won't cut it.

48 posted on 04/24/2011 10:04:53 PM PDT by Prokopton
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I think he would be a better president than I would be.

I am pretty sure I would be assassinated in my first term, by everyone.

If it where CLUE it would be: All of them using all the weapons in all the rooms.

49 posted on 04/24/2011 10:06:12 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: familyop
All the other article are about so-called foreign interests decimating the US economy.

Nowhere does Trump mention the real problem. The United States has spent itself into oblivion, debased its currency, and run the national debt into double digit trillions.

Trump is silent about all that.

50 posted on 04/24/2011 10:07:55 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Washington standard of professionalism

Now there's an oxymoron if I ever heard one!

51 posted on 04/24/2011 10:12:04 PM PDT by cowboyway (Molon labe : Deo Vindice : "Rebellion is always an option!!"--Jim Robinson)
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To: cowboyway

“Washington is a city of Southern efficiency and Northern charm.” ~President John F. Kennedy


52 posted on 04/24/2011 10:13:40 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (A thorough knowledge of the Bible is worth more than a college education. TR)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

He would be a self-absorbed RINO who knows how to claim the constitution is important when it serves his purpose.


53 posted on 04/24/2011 10:49:56 PM PDT by Kevmo (Turning the Party over to the so-called moderates wouldn't make any sense at all. ~Ronald Reagan)
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To: fight_truth_decay

Trump is just another liberal in RINO clothing, imo.

His strong support for Kelo tells any conservative all they need to know, if they needed to know any more...

Fortunately, he’s going nowhere.

He’s a good target for the MSM, though.


54 posted on 04/24/2011 10:51:18 PM PDT by ltc8k6
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To: Prokopton
>> During this "long" time did Palin or Bachmann, in a national forum with more than their followers listening, call Obama out as the worst president in history? No <<

No, during that long time, Trump was calling Bush the worse President in history and stating that "no President could be any worse". Trump is now claiming Obama is the worse and that the only person who previously held that title was Carter. He seems to be suffering from amnesia about the years he spent saying Bush was pure evil, the worst President in history, should be impeached over Iraq, etc. Trump's flair for the dramatic means nothing because he claims whoever is polling bad at that moment in time is "the worse in history"

55 posted on 04/24/2011 11:20:52 PM PDT by BillyBoy (Impeach Obama? Yes We Can!)
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To: fight_truth_decay
The University is NOT an Ivy League school and Obama did NOT teach Constitutional Law there; he wasn't even an assistant prof, but a lecturer and he taught "race law".

Trump did NOT "grow up in the school of hard knocks" at all; he grew up in the lap of luxury and was lucky that his father and grandfather ran real estate businesses before him. And even as a mature adult, it was his father and his father's own money, that bailed him out, many times over, even though The Donald had to declare bankruptcies, even with the monetary help.

You Trumpettes are as bad as the Obaots........placing your hopes on things you make up about your chosen one, instead of learning all there is to know about him.

56 posted on 04/24/2011 11:38:06 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: nopardons

With such a passionate throw down, I’m sure you have no problem telling where my millions should go eh...............


57 posted on 04/24/2011 11:42:24 PM PDT by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west)?)
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To: eyedigress
I stated facts. If you care to try to disprove them...........go right ahead.

I'm not telling anyone who to support; I just want those living in fantasy land to wake up.

I've seen so many wrong things posted about Trump, that I jump in every now and again to correct the egregiously erroneous garbage.

58 posted on 04/24/2011 11:48:12 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: nopardons

That is good. Trump to me is providing a service. He is the only guy in the world that will do it. The administration is silent. Let him play and don’t get so worked up.


59 posted on 04/24/2011 11:52:48 PM PDT by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west)?)
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To: eyedigress
Trump is providing a SIDE SHOW and the suckers are falling all over themselves, groveling at his feet and want to declare him POTUS, by acclimation.

A major problem with Trump and the BC, is that he isn't knowledgeable about it........he's just "waving the bloody flag"; so to speak.

60 posted on 04/25/2011 12:00:35 AM PDT by nopardons
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