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Mitt Romney, John Thune make pitch to Jewish Republicans at RJC bash
The Jewish Telegraphic Agency ^ | April 5, 2011 | Ron Kampeas

Posted on 04/05/2011 12:22:52 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: Cinnamon Girl; rae4palin

Republicans pols in general seem to think that practical politics is beneath them, and boy does it show.


21 posted on 04/05/2011 7:08:49 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows (You can't have Ingsoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: rae4palin

Frum is in the RJC. The RJC is not Frum’s group.


22 posted on 04/05/2011 10:30:04 PM PDT by dervish (there are no US interests in Libya)
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To: truthguy; SunkenCiv; Clintonfatigued; Impy; InterceptPoint; ml/nj; Shellybenoit; ExTexasRedhead; ...
Obama got 78% of the Jewish Vote in 2008 and I'd predict this time about 70%.

As I have stated before, that 78% figure is in all likelihood an overestimate. It's difficult to measure "the Jewish vote" because of numerous inherent problems in accurately sampling Jewish voters. Then, too, people who do these studies are almost invariably Democrats and build in their own personal biases. The intuitive guess here is that the number for Obama was no higher than 70% in 2008 and he will be very fortunate to get to 60% of "the Jewish vote" if he runs again next year.

Membership in the RJC (Republican Jewish Coalition) is on a steady upward trend, which I think is a rough indicator of the direction in which things are heading - changing slowly.

23 posted on 04/06/2011 7:11:14 AM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: rae4palin
The RJC is Frum's group.

Not at all, really. The RJC was initially organized during the Reagan years, when Frum was still a Canadian kid. Although Frum sits on a committee connected to the organization, his influence within it is minimal.

24 posted on 04/06/2011 7:15:19 AM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: justiceseeker93; Nachum; andy58-in-nh; sheik yerbouty; ncfool; Yehuda; ...

I don’t think the Wannabe Dictator will get 70% of the Jewish vote. I’m hoping that Bibi will put the heat on the Muslim Messiah.

The GOP needs to find the spine and guts to expose the Wannabe Dictator’s anti-semitic views and his obvious desire to destroy Israel. The Muslim Messiah has handed Egypt over to Iran and he’s bungled everything in the Middle East.


25 posted on 04/06/2011 7:17:04 AM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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To: misterrob
All five known Jewish Repubs were there?

Not that funny, really, nor accurate. The RJC is quite extensive, with a rapidly growing membership, national headquarters in DC, four regional headquarters, and at least 40 local chapters.

26 posted on 04/06/2011 7:19:33 AM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: 4rcane

“jews vote dem because they’re socialist,”

I’m a socialist? Wow, I never knew.

I typically get accused of being a cheap money-grubber.

How do you square the money-grubbing-profit-seeking Jooo sterotype with the dirty-rotten-communist-socialist Joooo stereotype?

The two sterotypes seem to be mutually exclusive.

Or is being an anti-semite like being a muslim, and permit you to hold mutually-conflicting ideas in your head at the same time?


27 posted on 04/06/2011 8:04:50 AM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: misterrob

“All five known Jewish Repubs were there?”

I went to the RJC thing for Sarah Palin a couple months ago.

It was probably 3,000 + weekend event.

I feel like a black conservative. I think there are more conservative Jewish people than the world knows -— self-appointed losers like the ADL don’t speak for us, but the MSM pretends they do.


28 posted on 04/06/2011 8:09:17 AM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: SunkenCiv

“his strengths — health care”

ROFLMAO.


29 posted on 04/06/2011 8:10:21 AM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: rae4palin

“The RJC is Frum’s group.”

Frum may think so, but it’s not. He’s a nothing.


30 posted on 04/06/2011 8:11:42 AM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: justiceseeker93

Yes, it is funny given the amount of Jews that vote Democrat.


31 posted on 04/06/2011 9:05:36 AM PDT by misterrob (Thug Life....now showing at a White House near you....)
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To: misterrob

Your refusal to accept conservative Jewish people at face value is telling.


32 posted on 04/06/2011 11:45:00 AM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: ExTexasRedhead

A serious conundrum.

With total impunity, Dems can aver that the type of shoes any particular Republican is wearing on any particular day is racist and discriminates against poor people. Republicans would have a very tough time claiming 0bama is anti-Semitic or anti-Israel. That is a high-threshold gambit, IMO. It’s just one of a great many stylistic differences between Democrats and Republicans.

Until the moment that shooting actually starts in an imagined multi-Arab nation war (not just a skirmish, a real heavy-arms exchange) against Israel, the majority of American Jews simply may not acknowledge the very serious and lethal danger now building up against the state of Israel. This is why I have opined or projected that Israel is going to be forced into a 1967/1973 type situation where she may have to pre-emptively attack one or more of her neighbors; Who have built up massive attack potential against her. And of course, the Arab nations would just love that type of pre-emption.

As part of that imagined scenario, I have also opined that Israel may become America’s savior, by helping to swing the bulk of the Jewish vote against 0bama’s second term. That’s the good news. The bad news is that the state of Israel may have be in a condition of utterly lethal peril to produce that result.

What I am saying is that American Jews may well have to come to that “0bama is anti-Israel” conclusion on their own. This is very similar to the notion that Americans in the larger sense have to come to the conclusion that “it is better to live in freedom (including the freedom to fail) than to have the government assume control of every aspect of their lives in the interest of never suffering pain or discomfort”.


33 posted on 04/06/2011 12:14:13 PM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (Which has more wrinkles? Helen Thomas' face or Lawrence O'Donnells' panties?)
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To: justiceseeker93

“As I have stated before, that 78% figure is in all likelihood an overestimate.”

I share that belief. IMHO, Obama’s share of the Jewish-American vote was 70% at best, probably a little less than that. I think that Republicans have an opportunity to win a bigger share next year.


34 posted on 04/06/2011 2:26:19 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (Muslims are a people of love, peace, and goodwill, and if you say that they aren't, they'll kill you)
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To: Jewbacca

And what is even more telling is the amount of people in that group that voted for Pali loving Obama. Talk about self loathing....


35 posted on 04/06/2011 2:37:00 PM PDT by misterrob (Thug Life....now showing at a White House near you....)
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To: justiceseeker93
Just look at the voting totals in west Los Angeles, parts of New York and Miami. That gives you a rough indication. Plus this is the number that Dennis Prager uses. I cannot speak for all polls and I'm not an expert on the subject except to say that modern polling is pretty sophisticated. Many on this site were still convinced McCain had a chance until Nov 3, 2008. Anecdotally, every Jewish person I know voted for Obama. That's of course every Jewish person I know well enough to know how they voted. That's about 20 to 0. Anecdotal evidence is risky but when it's 20 to 0, that tells you something.
36 posted on 04/06/2011 2:46:56 PM PDT by truthguy (Good intentions are not enough.)
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To: truthguy; dervish; Nachum; Yehuda; Jewbacca; ncfool; dalight; Shellybenoit; MarkL; jazminerose; ...
Just look at the voting totals in West Los Angeles, parts of New York and Miami. That gives you a rough indication.

That would probably be too rough of an indication. Jews who live in 'Rat infested areas will vote more toward the 'Rats than Jews in more evenly contested or Republican areas. In other words, the political climate of Jewish voters' immediate surroundings and the political feelings of non-Jewish neighbors has some statistical influence on the way Jews vote and their party registration.

That's why surveying only Jews in certain overwhelmingly left locations is not a very statistically accurate polling technique, although it may satisfy the pollster's desire to keep costs to a minimum.

Anecdotally, every Jewish person I know voted for Obama. That's of course every Jewish person I know well enough to know how they voted.

You shouldn't be afraid to ask your Jewish FReeper friends how they voted. And there are at least a hundred of us that I'm aware of. I'm sure the results would be just the opposite.(LOL!)

37 posted on 04/06/2011 3:22:54 PM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: justiceseeker93; Nachum; sheik yerbouty; oswegodeee; andy58-in-nh; Attention Surplus Disorder; ...

I’m a Jewish Freeper who has NEVER voted for a RAT in my entire voting life which has been many decades! My family votes Republican as well and every Jewish person I know.
Sorry to ruin the “all Jews” vote RAT mantra that I see on FR frequently.


38 posted on 04/06/2011 5:01:52 PM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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To: ExTexasRedhead

Good for you, a real patriot!!!!


39 posted on 04/06/2011 6:40:02 PM PDT by jesseam (Been there, done that)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I was part of the Jewish Republicans group in college. Then my friend Moishe graduated. And so the group’s name had to change. You know, to eliminate the plural. . .


40 posted on 04/06/2011 6:59:10 PM PDT by ChicagoHebrew (.)
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