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Internet gay cannibalism net widens
expatica ^ | 7/17/03

Posted on 07/17/2003 10:46:08 PM PDT by knak

KASSEL - Prosecutors Thursday said they have filed a murder indictment against one of two gay men who met in an Internet chat room, where it allegedly was agreed that one of them would kill and devour the other.

And in a stunning new development, prosecutors in Kassel said they are broadening the investigation to include some 430 other persons believed to have been involved in the Internet gay cannibalism chat room that led to the death of a 42-year-old man in March 2001.

Prosecutors are convinced that the victim, a computer analyst from Berlin, agreed to be killed and eaten. His dismembered and partially devoured remains were found at the residence of a 41-year-old suspect.

That suspect, identified only as Armin M., has been charged with murder. Cannibalism per se is not a crime under German law.

Despite the fact that the victim willingly agreed to be killed, prosecutors said the case could not be considered "assisted suicide". So they opted for a murder indictment.

Prosecutors Thursday said the suspect has admitted videotaping himself killing the Berlin man, a computer chip developer at Siemens corporation, identified only as Bernd Juergen B.

On the morning of his disappearance from Berlin on March 9, 2001, Bernd Juergen B. completed his will. He left the bulk of his estate including a lavish penthouse apartment and EUR 50,000 worth of computer equipment to his live-in partner, a man named Rene.

According to police, the victim had several thousand dollars in cash and his passport when he travelled 300 kilometres from Berlin to the alleged murderer's house near Kassel.

Searching the rambling, 30-room, half-timbered house in the village of Rotenburg, investigators unearthed skeletal remains, some of them packaged in a freezer, along with videotapes and CD-ROMs on which the suspect allegedly recorded his actions.

Authorities were tipped off to the crime by internet surfers who stumbled upon chat room requests allegedly posted by the suspect in which he was looking for people willing to be slaughtered and eaten by him.


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To: drhogan
Here some meat dishes that even some vegetarians heartily approve of:

Placenta Recipes

More recipes here

Note: the same concerns should be taken with regards to viral infections.

41 posted on 07/18/2003 12:19:07 PM PDT by weegee
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To: weegee
Cannibalism per se is not a crime under German law
Figure this bears repeating.

I'm figuring that there is no law because German lawmakers didn't think of it, it's just too vile. You only bother to have laws against bad things you think someone might really do, right? You don't sit around thinking of hideous things. Maybe that's a mistake.

It happened in the USA once that I know of (Jeffery Dahmer), but he was convicted of crimes other than cannibalism. Is there a law against cannibalism as such in any state of the USA? Not arguing, only asking.

Apparently, this is a subculture in Germany, though most members of it are only fantasizers. Sick!

42 posted on 07/18/2003 1:01:50 PM PDT by Salman
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To: knak
I think the producers in Hollywood should make this the premise of some of the gay shows on TV. Instead of all the cutesy crap they pretend gays are. I know they aren't all like this but.....OMG

Gay Tummy for a Straight Yummy?

43 posted on 07/18/2003 1:02:49 PM PDT by AppyPappy (If You're Not A Part Of The Solution, There's Good Money To Be Made In Prolonging The Problem.)
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To: Salman
Historically, there are a number of incidents of cannibalism (and murder) in Eastern Europe (I say that because some borders have changed several times).

I'm not saying that incidence of cannibalism is higher in Germany than elsewhere, just discussing the law or lack thereof.

That Court TV article said that many areas don't have specific laws that target cannibalism.

Obviously if some people are eating the placenta, they manage to convince the doctor to give it to them (or they birth at home).

In Texas it is "illegal" to procure organs/severed limbs for compensation; it is possible that a hospital worker could steal such castoffs for himself (although the theft would be a crime that the hospital could persue).

Some mutilation of a living person (even consensual) is prohibited in America (there have been other incidents of men meeting over the internet to eat one of their sex organs).

I would say that there is a big enough subculture globally that there are several "chat rooms" on the internet that go beyond mere fantasy.

44 posted on 07/18/2003 1:17:09 PM PDT by weegee
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To: Salman
From this website: www.arminm.com

"There are about 800 cannibals in Germany" - Armin Menschenfresser said in statement to police.

45 posted on 07/18/2003 1:31:32 PM PDT by weegee
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To: ALASKA
From the hit song, "A Boy Named Stu Stew."

Hey! I'm not a boy!

46 posted on 07/18/2003 1:40:00 PM PDT by kstewskis
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To: weegee
Obviously if some people are eating the placenta, they manage to convince the doctor to give it to them (or they birth at home).

That would be followers of Wilhelm Reich or folks influenced by same. No primitve people does this, but chimpanzees do, and Reich pronounced it natural. This is the same guy who invented the orgone box. The idea of this is that jerking off in a specially designed closet will make you more sane. Tapping into the orgone energy of the universe you see, but more expensive than common ordinary jerking off.

In Texas it is "illegal" to procure organs/severed limbs for compensation; it is possible that a hospital worker could steal such castoffs for himself (although the theft would be a crime that the hospital could persue).

Some mutilation of a living person (even consensual) is prohibited in America (there have been other incidents of men meeting over the internet to eat one of their sex organs).

What a world! What a species! Or should I blame the devil for having a really nasty sense of humor?

47 posted on 07/18/2003 4:16:13 PM PDT by Salman
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To: Salman
What a species!

Certainly some seem to be Darwin award winners (this computer chip guy participated in self-cannibalism AND eliminated his own reproductive organ before he was killed).

48 posted on 07/18/2003 5:55:00 PM PDT by weegee
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To: drhogan
>>or it, if you are one of those perverts who are into animals<<

I eat animal meat all the time. I am not sure that makes me a pervert.
49 posted on 07/18/2003 5:57:56 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Peace through Strength)
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To: this_ol_patriot
Now we know that cannibals will eat homosexuals. I had heard that they won't eat clowns because they taste funny.
50 posted on 07/18/2003 5:59:06 PM PDT by gitmo (Some days you're the dog; some days you're the hydrant.)
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To: weegee
"Cannibalism per se is not a crime under German law. "

Obviously Germany recognized a right to privacy.

51 posted on 07/18/2003 6:02:41 PM PDT by DannyTN (Note left on my door by a pack of neighborhood dogs.)
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To: weegee
and please don't forget that we are to stay out of consenting adults' decisions.
52 posted on 07/18/2003 6:02:50 PM PDT by freeangel (freeangel)
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To: Cultural Jihad; tpaine
Prosecutors are convinced that the victim, a computer analyst from Berlin, agreed to be killed and eaten. His dismembered and partially devoured remains were found at the residence of a 41-year-old suspect . . . . Despite the fact that the victim willingly agreed to be killed, prosecutors said the case could not be considered "assisted suicide". So they opted for a murder indictment

Foul, liberty-robbing statists. This was fully consensual, in furtherance of gay devourer's unalienable right to eat, and the devouree's unalienable right to consent to be eaten. Where is the harm? Tell me, WHERE IS THE HARM?

Well, tpaine, I suggest you send a snippet of this article to your Lord High Superlegislator masters of the SCOTUS. It seems it's time for Sandy and Ruthie to take the lead and show the Euroweenies what true liberty and private dignity are all about. < /sarcasm>

53 posted on 07/18/2003 6:08:46 PM PDT by Kevin Curry
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To: freeangel
An adult's ability to consent is dependent on having basic mental capabilities (no mental retardation) and being free of mental disorders (psychosis).

If someone has mental disorders, they can be locked up against theit will (institutionalized). Someone else can be made their legal guardian.

The psychiatrists stopped considering homosexuality to be a mental disorder.

They would have to concede that self-mutilation and sexual cannibalism are still signs of mental disorders.

54 posted on 07/18/2003 7:17:38 PM PDT by weegee
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To: gitmo
Now we know that cannibals will eat homosexuals.

I had heard that they won't eat clowns because they taste funny.

"Hmmmm, tastes a bit... fruity."

55 posted on 07/18/2003 7:24:01 PM PDT by weegee
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To: knak
Cannibalism per se is not a crime under German law.
'Cause I guess one's kinda hoping the topic won't ever come up...

56 posted on 07/18/2003 7:33:55 PM PDT by AnnaZ (unspunwithannaz.blogspot.com... "It is UNSPUN and it is Unspun, but it is not unspun." -- unspun)
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To: AnnaZ
It wasn't a federal offense to assassinate the President of the United States until after JFK was killed and that act had been done (and attempted) numerous times.

Ask a legislator why they are passing seat belt laws when cannibalism is legal. Which act is more dangerous to self and others?

57 posted on 07/18/2003 7:49:58 PM PDT by weegee
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To: Calvin Locke
Don't forgot Nathaniel Bar-Jonah--another homosexual cannibal the media wished away.
58 posted on 07/18/2003 7:50:40 PM PDT by DPB101
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To: Kevin Curry
To: Cultural Jihad; tpaine

Prosecutors are convinced that the victim, a computer analyst from Berlin, agreed to be killed and eaten. His dismembered and partially devoured remains were found at the residence of a 41-year-old suspect . . . . Despite the fact that the victim willingly agreed to be killed, prosecutors said the case could not be considered "assisted suicide". So they opted for a murder indictment.

Foul, liberty-robbing statists. This was fully consensual, in furtherance of gay devourer's unalienable right to eat, and the devouree's unalienable right to consent to be eaten. Where is the harm? Tell me, WHERE IS THE HARM?

A demented man was murdered & eaten by an equally demented gay ghoul, and kevin curry can't see the HARM? - How demented can you get, curry?

Well, tpaine, I suggest you send a snippet of this article to your Lord High Superlegislator masters of the SCOTUS. It seems it's time for Sandy and Ruthie to take the lead and show the Euroweenies what true liberty and private dignity are all about. [sarcasm]

No kevin, your FR stalking & bizarre behavior has gone far beyond [sarcasm]. You must have 'special' protection to get away with your flaunting of the posting guidelines.

How do you manage? Are you related to some FR big shot? The crazy uncle? How does CJ tie in, as a crazy ideologue?

59 posted on 07/18/2003 8:24:48 PM PDT by tpaine (Really, I'm trying to be Mr Nice Guy, but principles keep getting in me way.)
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To: Kevin Curry

All they need are 104 crazed people per year who are willing to exercise their true liberty from life and their full freedom from happiness, a cast of set designers, costume and makeup artists, some stage hands, an accountant, a producer, and a weekly Consensual Private Pay Per View channel.

Meanwhile, the Game Show Network's "Russian Roulette" could be redesigned to reflect the newly-mandated tolerance of evil. After all, the court has decreed that the rights to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness shall be infringed and replaced by the rights to an early death, slavery to vice, and the pursuit of unneeded suffering.

60 posted on 07/18/2003 8:41:03 PM PDT by Cultural Jihad
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