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Saturday, February 22, 2003

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1 posted on 02/22/2003 6:47:36 AM PST by JohnHuang2
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Sex education is bound to advance the idea that heterosexuality and homosexuality are equally normative, regardless of curriculum. This is because sex educators will teach their own liberal values regardless of what the curriculum says. So the problem with sex education, as always, is schools teaching what should be taught in the home, rather than the curriculum. Even abstinence education is very wrong when taught by health teachers who last year taught sex education.

The challenge for parents who don't home school, including my wife and I, is to teach both why we believe in tolerance and why a homosexual life should be avoided.

2 posted on 02/22/2003 7:01:41 AM PST by Steve Eisenberg
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To discuss, debate implies there is something to discuss or debate. If the abnormals impose themselves on your children a touch of the lash, the whip and the knout has curative effect.
3 posted on 02/22/2003 7:12:47 AM PST by AEMILIUS PAULUS (Further, the statement assumed)
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Center for the Original Intent of the Constitution

Sodomy was considered a heinous crime under common law. 5 Blackstone's writings are widely recognized as the best embodiment of English common law. His Commentaries were the standard legal textbook in the early days of our nation, and that work was frequently cited by early American courts. In this work, Blackstone discussed the "infamous crime against nature" and referenced the royal edicts prescribing its punishment 6. Blackstone described the offense itself as one of "deeper malignity" than rape, a heinous act "the very mention of which is a disgrace to human nature," and "a crime not fit to be named." 4 W. Blackstone, Commentaries *215. The common law of England, including its prohibition of sodomy, provided the basis for the original state sodomy laws.

In early America, the Bible served as the source for many criminal laws. Early colonial statutes often quoted the Biblical passages of Leviticus 18: 22 (" Thou shalt not lie with mankind as he lieth with womankind; it is an abomination.") and 20: 13 when establishing prohibitions against sodomy. 7 States not using the Leviticus language referred to prohibited conduct as the "crime against nature." The phrase "crime against nature," which appears in Blackstone's Commentaries and numerous state statutes, harkens back to the Apostle Paul's condemnation in Romans 1: 26-27 of those who "change the natural use into that which is against nature," 8 as other amici have noted. Historians Brief at 5. However, their brief incorrectly concludes that Paul did not consider the phrase to apply to same-sex behavior. Id.

Contrary to the assertion in the Historians Brief at 5, Paul's lack of reference to Sodom does not negate his condemnation of what we now term sodomy. 9 The Leviticus prohibition against sodomy made no reference to the destruction of the city of Sodom, but the command was clear nevertheless. Those who drafted early state and colonial laws drew on this Biblical background as the best means to express what was otherwise deemed unspeakable. 10 The Historians Brief at 4, argues that states are "strikingly inconsistent in their definition of the acts encompassed by the term [sodomy]." The Historians Brief at 5. It then proceeds to discuss the variety of definitions for "unnatural acts" presented in "Latin theology, canon law, and confessional practice." Although the scope of prohibited "unnatural acts" may have varied from generation to generation, until very recent times, same-sex sodomy has been included in virtually every state's list of prohibited sexual acts. Thomas Jefferson, the primary author of the Declaration of Independence, is one of the Founders who saw no inconsistency between the principles of individual liberty and the state prohibition of sodomy. In a letter to Edmund Pendleton dated August 26, 1776, Jefferson discussed his opinions on proper penalties for criminal activity. At the time of the Revolution, most states punished sodomy by death. 11 According to Jefferson, however,

Punishments I know are necessary, & I would provide them, strict & inflexible, but proportioned to the crime. Death might be inflicted for murder & perhaps for treason if you would take out of the description of treason all crimes which are not such in their nature. Rape, buggery &c— punish by castration. 12

Although Jefferson recommended a different punishment, he still believed that sodomy was a criminal offense.

As commander of the Continental Army in 1778, George Washington dishonorably discharged Lieutenant Enslin for attempting to commit sodomy with another soldier, John Monhort. In his military order, Washington stated his deep disdain for the crime of sodomy:

His Excellency the Commander in Chief approves the sentence and with abhorrence and detestation of such infamous crimes orders Lieut. Enslin to be drummed out of camp tomorrow morning by all the drummers and fifers in the Army never to return. 13

James Wilson, both a signer of the Declaration and the Constitution and one of the original Justices of this Court, wrote a commentary on American law. James Wilson, 2 The Works of James Wilson (1967) (from lectures given in 1790 and 1791). When the subject turned to sodomy, Wilson refused even to discuss the details of the act: "The crime not to be named [sodomy], I pass in a total silence." Id. at 656.

These examples from some of early America's key statesmen demonstrate the cultural atmosphere at the time of our nation's founding. It is clear that none of them ever envisioned a day when the federal Constitution would be used as a tool to overturn the decisions of elected state representatives concerning the punishment of sodomy.

5 posted on 02/22/2003 7:21:06 AM PST by Remedy
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6 posted on 02/22/2003 7:29:42 AM PST by Remedy
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Learn more here-http://www.leavethekidsalone.com/

....and here is what Gay Davis says in his 2002 Gay Pride speech

Gay Pride Celebration Speeches "For speaking today, the Gay lobby has given me a stack of cash this wide..." I am pleasedd to welcome all who have gathered throughout Californa for this year's Gay Pride Celebrations. I commend the organizers of this year's events for their hard work and ongoing support of California's diverse communities.

The tragedy of September 11 has reminded us of the price of intolerance and the true blessings of freedom. The victims and heroes of America's tragedy were brothers and sisters of every race, creed, religion and sexual orientation. They embodied the American ideals: liberty, humanity, unity and diversity.

Gay Pride events are a celebration of those American ideals. They are an inspiring symbol of California's commitment to defend the cause of freedom and justice. As we vigorously renew our dedication to a country that is a beacon of tolerance, it is our obligation to ensure that every citizen enjoys full and equal protection under the law, regardless of who they are, where they live or who they love.

Our pledge to respect the basic human dignity of every Californian would be impossible without the dynamic and determined effort of our gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender community. Through principled political leadership, and effective grassroots activism, California has established an enviable human rights record:

We banned discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation in housing and employment.

We enacted legislation to protect our schoochildren from discrimination and harassment.

We ended the statewide ban on adoption by unmarried couples.

We appointed more lesbians and gay men than any administration in California's history.

We enacted the nation's first statewide domestic partners registry in 1999.

And, in 2001 we were victorious in our battle to expand the rights, responsibilities and benefits of domestic partners. When I signed AB25, we created the strongest domestic partnership law in the nation, second only to Vermont.

This landmark legislation strengthens families, promotes responsibilitiy, and marks a meaningful advance for the gay and lesbian community in California. I extend my thanks to all the organizations that have worked so tirelessly to register thousands of domestic partners since the law was enacted. We can all take pride in our collective accomplishments in the fight to defend freedom and create opportunity for all Californians.

On behalf of the people of the Great State of California, I extend my best wishes to this year's Pride celebrations, honoring the great diversity of our nation, and our freedom to pursue happiness and fulfillment.

7 posted on 02/22/2003 7:32:15 AM PST by GrandMoM (Spare the rod, spoil the child!)
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ping
8 posted on 02/22/2003 7:32:58 AM PST by Remedy
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People need to get their kids out of government schools.
13 posted on 02/22/2003 8:23:40 AM PST by B Knotts
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To: JohnHuang2; Squat
Mega Bump!!
14 posted on 02/22/2003 8:25:36 AM PST by harpo11 (United Nations is NOT united with America--I'm in the Mood to Give 'em Hell 'W'!)
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transgender historical figures, events, concepts, and issues."

Has there ever been a nation or society in the history of the world which educated their children on the critical importance of transgender historical figures, events, concepts, and issues?

Counting angels on the heads of pins would be a far more productive activity. ;-)
15 posted on 02/22/2003 8:51:55 AM PST by cgbg (Defund the Left. Abolish public schools!)
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"A new survey shows parents don't want their children taught "it's O.K. to be 'gay'" at school."

(Gay) School Days

"What would schools look like if they were run by homosexual activists? In California, parents are learning the answer.

PARENTAL ADVISORY: Portions of this article may be inappropriate for young readers.

"...All the second- through fifth-graders at Pleasant Valley School had been called to an assembly, where they learned slogans like "I'm gay and it's OK," reinforced by various skits -like one in which Rapunzel cut her hair and ran away with her girlfriend. The show made an impact. "Daddy, am I a lesbian?" one third-grade girl asked. "I like girls better than boys." The group behind the assembly bore an innocent-sounding name, Cootie Shots. But it turned out to be an offshoot of Fringe Benefits, a theater group that gets public funds for "tolerance of diversity" performances in high schools and middle schools throughout the Los Angeles Unified School District. Now the group is targeting much younger kids, because-in the words of a longtime Fringe Benefits booster, Steven Hicks of the Gay, Lesbian and Straight Education Network (GLSEN) of Los Angeles-"It is imperative to begin addressing these issues in the elementary schools as early as possible."..."


A better slogan:


Gay -- is NOT OK!



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17 posted on 02/22/2003 9:01:10 AM PST by EdReform
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Well, here's some good news...
25 posted on 02/22/2003 9:12:10 AM PST by HumanaeVitae
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To: All; *Education News
"Seventy-one percent of parents responding to a poll conducted nationally said they opposed sex education programs that teach students that homosexual love relationships are comparable to heterosexual relationships."

Parents who have children in the public schools can protect them by using the Hatch Amendment Letter - Parental Consent Form for use in the Public Schools to demand that their children be kept out of these homosexual indoctrination sessions. Remove the homosexual advocates' "audience" - let the pro-homos spout their propaganda and perversion to a bunch of empty chairs.

Please pass this information on to parents, grandparents, etc.

28 posted on 02/22/2003 9:30:52 AM PST by EdReform
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read later
30 posted on 02/22/2003 9:43:51 AM PST by LiteKeeper
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To: All
"Said Executive Director Kevin Jennings"

It's also been reported he said this:

Governor’s Commission Lies Continually About ‘Safety’ and ‘Suicide’

"Safety
A speech by a homosexual activist in 1995 revealed that he had used "safety" to delude Gov. Weld and the state legislature into adopting the homosexual agenda for the schools of Massachusetts. The speech was titled Winning the Culture War and was given by Kevin Jennings, Executive Director of the "Gay and Lesbian and Straight Teachers’ Network," at the "Human Rights Campaign Fund Leadership Conference" on March 5, 1995.

"If the Radical Right can succeed in portraying us as preying on children, we will lose. Their language ­ ‘promoting homosexuality’ is one example ­ is laced with subtle and not-so-subtle innuendo that we are ‘after their kids.’ We must learn from the abortion struggle, where the clever claiming of the term ‘pro-life’ allowed those who opposed abortion on demand to frame the issue to their advantage, to make sure that we do not allow ourselves to be painted into a corner before the debate even begins.

In Massachusetts the effective reframing of this issue was the key to the success of the Governor’s Commission on Gay and Lesbian Youth. We immediately seized upon the opponent’s calling card ­ safety ­ and explained how homophobia represents a threat to students’ safety by creating a climate where violence, name-calling, health problems, and suicide are common. Titling our report "Making Schools Safe for Gay and Lesbian Youth," we automatically threw our opponents onto the defensive and stole their best line of attack. This framing short-circuited their arguments and left them back-pedaling from day one.

Finding the effective frame for your community is the key to victory. It must be linked to universal values that everyone in the community has in common.

In Massachusetts, no one could speak up against our frame and say, ‘Why, yes, I do think students should kill themselves’: this allowed us to set the terms for the debate.

In Massachusetts, we made creating an environment where youth could speak out our number one priority. We know that, confronted with real-live stories of youth who had suffered from homophobia, our opponents would have to attack people who had been victimized once, which put them in a bully position from which it would be hard to emerge looking good. More importantly, we made sure these youth met with elected officials so that, the next time these officials had to vote on something, there would be a specific face and story attached to the issue. We wanted them to have an actual kid in mind when they had to cast their votes. We won the vote in the Senate 33-7 as a result..."


31 posted on 02/22/2003 9:58:02 AM PST by EdReform
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Where does Dr. Laura stand on this?
34 posted on 02/22/2003 10:40:51 AM PST by HitmanLV
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Just who do these parents think they are? Trying to impose their belief system on their children? Don't they know that the teachers knnow best in every situation?
35 posted on 02/22/2003 10:45:30 AM PST by fella
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To: JohnHuang2; Remedy; GrandMoM; backhoe; pram; Yehuda; Clint N. Suhks; saradippity; stage left; ...
I really like this thread! Thought I'd share something with you guys... As many of you know we adopted two boys through our local county last year. Now we're hoping to adopt a girl, but to do that we have to renew our fos/adopt license. Guess what they're asking us to take a class in:
Gay/Lesbian Rights in Foster Care
We will not take this class. They make it really convenient to renew your license in a day, but you have to take the above class to do it. Otherwise you have to spread your classes out over a month of weekends to get around it. Well, that's what we'll have to do as we will not take this class. Perhaps I should fax the article to the county. :-/
49 posted on 02/22/2003 10:54:57 PM PST by scripter
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Children always believe the teachers know more than the parents...it is important to monitor everything taught as the regular classes will have gay stories or people in them which will impress the child and possibly lead to class discussion
54 posted on 02/23/2003 5:22:24 AM PST by RnMomof7
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To: All; GrandMoM; scripter; Grampa Dave; pram; ladylib; Remedy
"The promotion of homosexuality has become increasingly common in public schools across the country as some educators view the issue as a second civil-rights movement.

California lawmakers even passed legislation revising state curriculum to require educators to "acknowledge lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender historical figures, events, concepts, and issues."..."


Queering Elementary Education: Advancing the Dialogue about Sexualities and Schooling


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55 posted on 02/23/2003 7:03:01 AM PST by EdReform (Support Free Republic - www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/581234/posts?page=914#914)
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"Parents nationally and in Michigan don't want their children indoctrinated or their health put at risk by 'politically correct' sex ed or diversity programs which tell kids there's nothing wrong with homosexual sex," said AFA-Michigan President Gary Glenn.


It's 1984 in Massachusetts – And Big Brother Is Gay

"A prominent psychiatrist says the sex-ed curricula at these schools can lower children "to the level of animals" and inflict lasting harm. "Massachusetts schools' systematic promotion of homosexuality and promiscuity fosters sexual confusion and experimentation," says Nathaniel S. Lehrman, former clinical director of the Kingsboro Psychiatric Center in New York. "They dilute and trivialize [the capacity for] faithful sexual passion which should [later] be the cement of these children's marriages. Unstable youngsters may become particularly vulnerable to homosexuals who actively recruit them."

There are teachers all over North America quietly mainstreaming homosexual behavior to children as young as 5 years old..."


Doctor Gives Affidavit In Fistgate Case

Outlines the "significant medical and health risks" associated with what was taught to students at Fistgate.

"...As a practicing physician and member of the Physician Resource Council of the Massachusetts Family Institute, I object to information being presented to children and adolescents by educators intended to portray homosexuality as a healthy alternative lifestyle, while deliberately omitting or disregarding the significant medical and health risks inherent to homosexual sex and the gay lifestyle.

Under the rubric of diversity training, HIV prevention and "safer schools," the Massachusetts Department of Education has permitted the exposure of young students in public schools to sexually explicit, morally offensive, and medically risky material intended to encourage them to question, explore and expand their sexuality. These misguided efforts place young people at risk for the well known and sometimes life threatening consequences of homosexual sex and promiscuity, not the least of which are human immunodeficiency virus (HIV) infection and Acquired Immune Deficiency Syndrome (AIDS)..."


58 posted on 02/23/2003 8:17:06 AM PST by EdReform (Support Free Republic - www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/581234/posts?page=914#914)
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