The Homosexual Link To Pedophilia

Accuracy in Media ^ | 12/18/02 | Don Irvine

[zingzang]

The Catholic Bishops made two big mistakes in their handling of the sex scandal hitting the church. One, they didn’t get rid of priests who sexually abused children. A new policy of no tolerance may fix that. But the other, more basic, problem, is that too many homosexuals became priests in the liberal climate of the 1960s and ‘70s. The Vatican may fix that problem, and this is what has some in the media worried. On the CBS Evening News, reporter Byron Pitts said, "While the church tries to close the door on one sex scandal, another is brewing. The Vatican is now drafting a document that could ban homosexuals from the priest hood."

That’s another sex scandal? Since the homosexual lifestyle is frowned upon by church teaching, why would that be controversial? It’s only controversial if you’re a homosexual or if you try to maintain the fiction that there is no link between homosexuality and the sexual abuse of children. This is what Byron Pitts tried to say in his one-sided treatment of this very serious matter.

He presented a retired priest and psychotherapist named Richard Sipe, who estimated that 30 percent of Catholic priests are gay. That’s a high number. But Sipe didn’t want them kicked out. In fact, he told Pitts that a ban on homosexuals in the priesthood would be "like a gay bar refusing to serve homosexual patrons. It doesn’t make any sense." This has got to be one of the strangest analogies ever offered in defense of homosexuals as priests. His rationale is that since gay bars serve gays, the church should keep its homosexual priests. But the church is not supposed to be an arm of the homosexual movement.

Pitts presented the Reverend Jim Morris of a homosexual Catholic group called "Dignity," who assured the audience that homosexual priests are not prone to abuse kids. As Pitts reported, "Homosexuality and pedophilia, he says, are not related." A homosexual activist was supposed to be an objective source of information.

The expert who was missing from the CBS News report was Dr. Timothy Daily of the Family Research Council, who has written about a definite link between homosexuality and child abuse. He says, "Despite efforts by homosexual activists to distance the gay lifestyle from pedophilia, there remains a disturbing connection between the two. This is because, by definition, male homosexuals are sexually attracted to other males. While many homosexuals may not seek young sexual partners, the evidence indicates that disproportionate numbers of gay men seek adolescent males or boys as sexual partners."

Daily notes that the homosexual movement accepts pedophilia. The North American Man-Boy Love Association, NAMBLA, has been a proud member of the so-called "gay rights" movement, and pedophile themes abound in gay literature. Dailey notes that the late "beat" poet Allen Ginsberg was a pedophile, whose poetry contained explicit references to man-boy sex. Ginsberg was a member of NAMBLA. When Ginsberg died in 1997, journalists praised him as a cultural icon. Some mentioned he was a homosexual, but they concealed his perverted sexual preference for boys.

Reed Irvine can be reached at ri@aim.org

[yendu bwam]

These extremist groups don't represent the views of the majority of whites, muslims, and Catholics, any more than NAMBLA represents the majority of gays.

True. But it is greatly troubling to many that NAMBLA representatives march in gay rights parades, along with our politicians. Does no one (normal or homosexual) have the moral fiber to say no?

[yendu bwam]

Someone with too much time on their hands should do a statistical analysis of the differing way homosexual pedophilia is reported as opposed to hetero-pedophilia.

You bet. The New York Times is a prominent example of journalists who refuse to print the whole truth. A daily article on the Catholic scandal with almost never a mention of the fact that almost all of the predators are homosexual. The New York Times is a master of obfuscation in this area - using convenient terms like 'pedophile priests', 'abusers', 'molestors' - every word in the dictionary except homosexual. Bill O'Reilly, just last night, finally had the cojones to admit on the air that most of the Catholic priest molestors are homosexual (and that most of the victims are teenage boys) - it only took him a year to do so.

[Clint N. Suhks]

I see you have your usual NARTH-inspired misrepresentations of Freund handy

You just don’t get it do you. It’s not about NARTH, it’s about every person with common sense who reads Freunds DATA can objectively see the connection. Even an 8-year-old can see it.

[Clint N. Suhks]

Thanks for the link.

It makes me sick every time I find it. It does move every now and then, I guess the homosexuals there are afraid of getting caught.

There’s the Butterfly Kisses lesbian pedophile site too, I’ll see if it’s still around.

[yendu bwam]

C'mon, magd. The average person in the street understands that a great many homosexual men have sexual desires for teenage boys. That's why homosexual organizations keep pushing for lower ages of consent for man-boy sex, that's why teenage prostitution in NYC is highly homosexual, that's why a minority of (homosexual) priests in the the Catholic Church brought about 90% of the molestations making up this scandal, that's why homosexual websites and magazines are full of references to sex with teenage boys, etc. etc. Homosexuals, you included, can do what you want with your lives. But you would be very, very smart, as a group, to not try to insinuate yourselves into positions of authority over or physical closeness to teenage boys. Parents won't stand for it. That's why homosexuals' enormous efforts to undermine and destory the Boy Scouts are failing. That's why the Catholic Church is finally coming to understand that it can't have a queerite priesthood and expect parents to trust priests with their sons. Leave our children alone - and we'll be happy to leave you alone.

[eastsider]

Congrats (and tx) for the successful demonstration of NAMBLA's present viability.

[Notwithstanding]

the "man-boy" shopping site that was run by NAMBLA was called "Ariel's Pages"

Apparently they are "going out o business" as we speak.

http://www.arielspages.com/contents.htm

[Clint N. Suhks]

(Almost invariably, when I point out that NAMBLA appears to be dead, someone comes along and posts a link to a website… a snapshot of the site that NAMBLA lost several years ago. A review of that website will show that it has not been updated for more than two years.)

How do you know, did you channel that through the HRC? And if that were true why would a lack of updating be conclusive evidence that they’re not in existence, hopeful wish? Someone is paying for it to be on the web or they have their own server.

[The Grammarian]

Your screenname is being added to the list of FR's anti-catholics.

You make it sound like that's a bad thing. </ smirk>

[Notwithstanding]

Sorry, but your logic is a shaky.

The maintream gay mantra is "affirm us and leave us alone".

The mainstream gay mantra is also "let kids explore their sexuality without any limits or fear".

Thus the mainstream gay mantra is "let gay kids act out sexually."

The mainstream heterosexual view is actually still largely against kids being hyper-sexualized and acting out sexually until they are 18 - and those who think otherwise (liberals, sex-industrialists such as planned parenthood [they make sooooooo much money off of youth sex, sex disease and pregnancy]) are perverts themselves.

The mainstream support youth sexual exploration without limits (including fisting, etc.)

When adults are teaching kids how to do perverted sex acts, the jig is up. The sex indusrialists think kids should have sex. It is a foregone conclusion that some of the kids will desire sex with adults. Since no one should have any sexual inhibitions (according to the pervert promoters), the kids should be able to have sex with adults.

Which means the sex industrialists (who are supported by mainstream gays and liberal hetero perverts) are actually adult-child sex advocates.




extremist groups don't represent the views of the majority of whites, muslims, and Catholics, any more than NAMBLA represents the majority of gays.

[Notwithstanding]

Planned Parenthood's youth advice page is mothing more than adults advocating and explaining to youth exactly how to have gay sex. I find it perverted that any reliable adult would explain precisely to a child exactly how to perfrom various sex acts. If it this sort of sex is so friggin natural then there is no need for any explanations. And the fact that adults get so excited about explaining this to kids makes we hold all of the adults in contempt.

http://www.teenwire.com/index.asp?taStrona=http://www.teenwire.com/warehous/articles/wh_20010823p116.asp

[Notwithstanding]

as though
or
as if

are better grammatical choices for your use of "like"

[Noachian]

The media has it's lights focused on the controversy surrounding the pedophile activities of homosexual priests within the church. So why isn't anyone talking about the the women who obviously knew about those priest's behavior and did nothing? Is it possible for homosexual females to belong to the church as well as males? If the church is infested with homosexuals do they all have to be men?

Doesn't it seem reasonable to assume that if there are male homosexual priests sexually active within the church that there are probably female homosexual nuns, and lay women, that are active too?

To my knowledge, this question has never been brought up. Why not?

I understand that the statistics of female pedophiles are much lower than male pedophiles, but if there are sexually active homosexual nuns and/or laywomen could they not be engaged in activities that have yet to be brought to light?

With all the information now coming to light about the priests sexual activities one has to ask how nuns, and other women working in the church, knew nothing of what was going on? The priests have been abusing children for years, and the women those priests work with on a daily basis are never asked what they knew or how they may have played a role in those activities.

I think it's a question worth asking of those investigating the church scandals.

[EdReform]

"... Thus the mainstream gay mantra is "let gay kids act out sexually." ..."

Documented here:

"An Introduction to GLSEN"

and here:

Recommended Reading for Teenagers? A Closer Look at P-FLAG

And see:

"A Captive Audience"

[Notwithstanding]

Why do you deny that mainstream gay thought is as follows:

kids should have a lot of gay sex if they feel like it with whomever they want, whatever sex acts they want, with no moral input from parents

if they should have the exact kind of sex they want, then they should not be prevented from having sex with adults

[L.N. Smithee]

First, I’m not sure what you mean by “gay activists” since that term has been applied by some to anyone that is not stridently antigay.

Are you telling me you don't have the preceptive powers to tell? Then I guess you are admitting you are an imbecile.

Your practice of clear accusatory language when referring to your opponents and obfuscating when describing your compadres is a good strategic debating tool. But it doesn't fool me.

But even among those that can genuinely be called “gay activists,” I don’t see any orchestrated attempt to imply that Phelps is representative of anyone aside from himself. So if you’re suggesting that Phelps is used in an organized attempt at “Christian-bashing,” then I must say “no.” I don’t think that mainstream “gay activists” do that.

This is from a synopsis of an extensive series of Topeka Capital-Journal articles about "Rev." Phelps.

Read on and learn.

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For conservative Christians, Phelps is a pitiful caricature of the believer who fosters negative stereotypes of Christians who oppose the homosexual lifestyle.

To gay activists, he is the far end of a spectrum of conservative Christians who fuel hate crimes with their anti-gay rhetoric.

"If you scratch away at the compassionate ex-gay campaign, you're going to find out all these flowers came from the same seeds," says Cathy Renna, director of community relations for the Washington-based Gay and Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation. "Homophobia is homophobia is homophobia."

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[Robert] Knight [author of the overwhelmingly approved Definition of Marriage Amendment in California] complains, the media use Phelps as "a shorthand description of conservative Christians, which is unfair."

Renna agrees with Christian conservatives that Phelps is unique, but only because he expresses the hatred other groups couch in less incendiary language.

Even milder attacks on homosexuality, gay rights groups charge, can foment violence against the gay community, a suggestion that incenses Knight.

"It's an outrageous falsehood," he says, "that's been the same plan from day one of the Matthew Shepard tragedy: to say that any opposition to homosexual activity or any restatement of Biblical beliefs is a form of hate-filled bigotry that can lead directly to crimes of this type."

Such equations, he says, "are an attempt to restrict the free speech of conservative Christians. The gays are in effect saying we're going to shut you up by falsely blaming this murder on you."

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The aforementioned Cathy Renna is the GLAAD attack dog who urged her fellow Gay-stapo members to pressure journalists not to seek comments in the name of "balance" from people opposed to their agenda.

You want more? Here's LGNY's Troy Masters (seriously), who slyly suggested that if Dr. Laura's TV show were allowed on the air, we might see more brutal homophobic killings.

[EdReform]

BTTT

[The Grammarian]

"as though" or "as if" are better grammatical choices for your use of "like"

Look up the word "vernacular," and call me in the morning.

[kako]

as though
or
as if
are better grammatical choices for your use of "like"

Doesn't good grammar mandate that sentences start with an upper case letter and end with a period? Plus, where are the quotation marks around the phrases you suggest the subject of your criticism use en lieu of "like"?

[Notwithstanding]

i do not advertise myself as "the grammarian" as the addressee of my post does

i merely point out the irony