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No apology, more charges from Simon [GOP hopeful defends allegations to the shock of Davis' camp]
Contra Costa Times ^ | October 10, 2002 | Daniel Borenstein and Andrew LaMar

Posted on 10/10/2002 4:27:46 AM PDT by RonDog

Edited on 04/13/2004 3:29:49 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

As Bill Simon's allegations of illegal fund raising crumbled, the Republican candidate acknowledged late Wednesday that his charges against Gov. Gray Davis were unfounded.

But Simon did not apologize to the governor. He said he had "a good-faith basis" for believing the false accusation he made public Monday.


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TOPICS: Activism/Chapters; Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: billsimon; calgov2002; graydavis
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To: IoCaster
"He entered active duty in the U.S. Army in 1967, rising to the rank of captain while serving in Vietnam in 1968-69. In Vietnam he earned the Bronze Star for meritorious service. He is a life member of the American Legion and the Veterans of Foreign Wars."

I will never understand why so many veterans are attracted to the socialist and corrupt Democrat party. I just don't get it.

81 posted on 10/10/2002 11:36:29 AM PDT by A Navy Vet
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To: IoCaster
There was an article in the LATimes this am that said that Davis served just 6 months in Vietnam and did not see combat.
82 posted on 10/10/2002 11:46:21 AM PDT by Aunt Polgara
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To: Heyworth; bonesmccoy; Impeach98
But, we need a high resolution scan of the view over Lt. Gov. Davis' right shoulder. You can see over his shoulder and into an area with vegetation. If that area is a golf course on the high resolution scan, it would be consistent with the story that Mr. Karatz has stated. If it isn't, then Karatz' story is an incorrect recollection and the photo was taken somewhere else. - bonesmccoy

One of the other threads for this story had a good blow-up of the window. You can't see a golf course, but you can see an ivy-covered garden wall just a few feet outside the window. It always looked more like a residential setting than any sort of government building. - Heyworth

From:
Group Claims It Has Pictures Of Davis Taking Illegal Contribution
      Posted by Impeach98 to for-q-clinton
On News/Activism Oct 9 11:34 AM #164 of 168

Photos not showing up!

those were pretty large graphic files and the website he used to post it has disabled his site for a while because he's exceeded his bandwidth quota.

If anyone else has the large photo(s) please post them (or a link to them).

Yes!!! So sorry! I even pay to have the Geocities Plus expanded storage and bandwidth.

The page says my daily bandwidth was exceeded but my monthly.
A LOT of traffic to see those pics...

more

83 posted on 10/10/2002 11:50:41 AM PDT by RonDog
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To: randita
"Where was all this "righteous indignation" when Gray Out called Simon a criminal as a result of the unfounded verdict against Simon's company?"

Why should Davis apologize for calling someone convicted of a crime a criminal? It's not his fault the court was in error. He didn't make a mistake. When a court convicts you of a crime, you're a criminal.

Whereas Simon was given a picture of a purported crime, from someone representing the group THAT HAD PARTICIPATED IN THE PURPORTED CRIME, and was told, "publicize this picture of your opponent AND US committing a crime". Davis then accused Davis of committing a crime when he hadn't checked his facts first. There was no legal finding. That's why he should apologize. His accusation was baseless. Davis's wasn't.
84 posted on 10/10/2002 12:10:09 PM PDT by RonF
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To: Aunt Polgara
"There was an article in the LATimes this am that said that Davis served just 6 months in Vietnam and did not see combat."

I can honestly say that I wouldn't be surprised if that turns out to be the case. I've always been unimpressed by this corrupt scumbag. A more nefarious and opportunistic lowlife, this side of IMPOTUS, it would be hard to find. I will hope that all CA FReepers would keep fighting and not give in to dispair. Get the message out and keep fighting. Don't go out with a whimper, but set the stage for victory. Best wishes to our California FReepers!!

85 posted on 10/10/2002 12:10:56 PM PDT by IoCaster
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To: dalereed
So, you're telling me that Simon went public about the picture HAVING NEVER LOOKED AT IT?

Stupider and stupider....
86 posted on 10/10/2002 12:12:20 PM PDT by RonF
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To: blackdog
The fake-currency making mafya must be destroyed.
88 posted on 10/10/2002 12:35:00 PM PDT by lavaroise
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To: That Subliminal Kid
"He's an embarrasement."

So is your spelling. Is it your opinion that Davis should just run unopposed? Or should the Republicans be allowed to substitute in another candidate? Who do you suggest?

90 posted on 10/10/2002 12:55:35 PM PDT by Feiny
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To: Commie Basher
Except Riordan is just Davis light.
91 posted on 10/10/2002 12:58:40 PM PDT by Feiny
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To: GraniteStateConservative
Jones, the tax-hiker? Jones, the untrustworthy Bush endorser then McCain endorser? Not my vote.

Go Bill Go!
92 posted on 10/10/2002 1:17:43 PM PDT by RightOnTheLeftCoast
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To: RonDog
Simon's claim further deflated

Photo of Davis raising funds was taken at a private residence.

By Margaret Talev -- Bee Capitol Bureau

Published 2:15 a.m. PDT Thursday, October 10, 2002

In a second day of embarrassment for Republican Bill Simon's gubernatorial campaign, photos that Simon said would show Gov. Gray Davis illegally raising money in a state office building instead were determined to have been taken in the private residence of a Santa Monica home builder.

Bruce Karatz, chairman and CEO of KB Home, on Wednesday identified the den in his former home as the background in 4-year-old photographs circulated a day earlier by the California Organization of Police and Sheriffs.

COPS issued an apology -- but not to Davis.

"We regret the impact this erroneous information has had in the Simon campaign and on the distraction of their message to the voters of California," it read.

In a statement issued early Wednesday, Simon was unapologetic about accusing the governor of a crime without examining the photos himself.

Simon said Davis still should be investigated by law enforcement officials "even if the specific claims made by (COPS) are not sustained."

Late in the day, he issued a second statement acknowledging that the complaint was "unfounded." He declined interview requests.

COPS, in its unsigned statement, said the group released the photos and filed a complaint with the state Fair Political Practices Commission "in good faith," but that "it now appears our original belief was erroneous." COPS said it would withdraw its complaint.

The group also apologized for "questioning the character" of its former director, Al Angele, who was pictured in the photos with Davis.

The Democratic governor, speaking on KGO radio in the Bay Area on Wednesday, described the situation as "just a sorry reflection of a campaign that's just falling apart," and he called on Simon to withdraw from the race.

"He should drop out," Davis told radio host Ed Baxter, according to a transcript provided by the Governor's Office. "His whole campaign has been an embarrassment."

Meanwhile, an attorney for the Davis campaign fired off a letter to the lawyer representing COPS and the state Republican Party, advising that campaign strategist Garry South was considering a defamation lawsuit.

COPS and Simon on Tuesday had unveiled and touted the photos as evidence that on Jan. 31, 1998, while still lieutenant governor, Davis accepted a $10,000 contribution in his state office from Angele.

COPS backed Davis in his first gubernatorial bid but struggled with internal battles. Angele left, and the group's new leadership endorsed Simon. Most other law enforcement groups have endorsed Davis.

Finance records show the Simon campaign and its consulting firm have paid COPS and its lobbyist hundreds of thousands of dollars, for inclusion on candidate mailers. Mailers are put out by various organizations encouraging citizens to vote for particular candidates.

Davis' staff from the outset denied that any money changed hands in a state office in 1998. Initially, South said he did not know where the photos were taken and would not dignify Simon's accusations by tracking the information down.

By Wednesday, the campaign said it had checked unpublished schedules and determined that on the date in question Davis attended an 8 a.m. breakfast event at Karatz's home with supporters and financiers of his first-term bid for governor. COPS' Angele was among them.

When Davis created the Commission on Building for the 21st Century two months after taking office, he appointed Karatz as a member.

Karatz was traveling Wednesday and could not be reached for comment. But a spokesman said he recognized the modern art visible in the shots as "Red Lick," a painting by Los Angeles artist David Amico that Karatz owns.

While the law prohibits politicians from accepting campaign donations in state offices, there is no prohibition on raising money in private homes.

On Wednesday, critics piled on against Simon, a first-time candidate and investment banker who has noted with pride his experience as a former federal prosecutor.

Jim Shore, president of the California Prosecutors Association, said his group would endorse Davis and that Simon had "demonstrated a willful disregard for the facts and exhibited the type of leadership that California does not need."

Trailing the governor by at least seven percentage points in polls taken before Monday's gubernatorial debate, Simon scrambled to redirect questions about his own credibility to that of Davis, who has been dogged for years by reports that he is obsessed with fund raising.

"The location where the governor received this campaign contribution is now in question," Simon said in a statement released before Karatz's home was identified as the site.

"However, even if the specific claims made by (COPS) are not sustained, this outcome should not deter the (Fair Political Practices Commission), other law enforcement agencies and the media from investigating Gray Davis' aggressive and shady fund-raising practices."

The fund-raising allegations were guarded by COPS and Simon strategists for weeks until they were floated Monday during the only scheduled debate between Simon and Davis.

Simon told debate viewers that raising money in state offices is illegal and asked Davis whether he had ever done so. Davis replied that he had always acted within the law.

Badgered by reporters after the debate, Simon let slip, in a stronger fashion than his campaign had planned, that he had evidence showing Davis had taken money in a state office.

He pointed to a complaint COPS had filed that day with state regulators alleging Davis had accepted the check from Angele in his public office.

Angele said he never visited Davis in the lieutenant governor's office and could only recall giving Davis a check at his campaign office, as the law permits. Angele has since said he would meet with a lawyer to consider litigation. Skepticism followed the photos' release, as reporters visited the lieutenant governor's office at the Capitol and saw that windows, doors and artwork there did not resemble the setting in the photos.

Simon, in Wednesday's statement, said he had "no reason to question" COPS when the group approached his campaign about the 1998 check. Sources said he never saw the pictures until Tuesday afternoon.

"They were reporting the charge to the government enforcement agency, and they claimed they had documented proof," he said.

In a final, if tangential, disappointment for Simon late Wednesday, Democratic state Attorney General Bill Lockyer rejected a request by his Republican challenger to investigate Davis for improper fund raising.

Attorney general candidate Dick Ackerman last month presented Lockyer with 21 instances of fund raising, reported in newspaper accounts, that Ackerman argued should be criminally investigated.

Writing on Lockyer's behalf, Chief Assistant Attorney General Robert Anderson said Ackerman had provided no "credible evidence" that Davis' policy decisions were influenced by campaign contributions.

93 posted on 10/10/2002 1:35:54 PM PDT by let freedom sing
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To: let freedom sing
Paging RUDY GUILIANI - PLEASE COME TO THE SPEAKER PHONE!
94 posted on 10/10/2002 2:40:17 PM PDT by princess leah
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To: GraniteStateConservative
Lets face the realities that are about to bite the pubies in the pubes. CA is going to stay rat.

The Us senate is going to stay rat, nothing is going to change.

The pubies will still be the stupid party, cause they refuse to go into a knife fight with a gun.

Politics in the past 20 years has become a killing game and the pubies haven't figure this out.

They couldn't take down klintoon when they had the chance, and they aren't going to change anything in the culture of the US, they like their perks and bennies to much.

95 posted on 10/10/2002 5:50:06 PM PDT by dts32041
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To: feinswinesuksass
No, Simon should run, but he's still an embarassement.
96 posted on 10/11/2002 6:52:44 AM PDT by That Subliminal Kid
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Nah, I figure let Simon run. I'm not saying he should be forced to resign. But if he had any dignity, he would.
97 posted on 10/11/2002 6:53:40 AM PDT by That Subliminal Kid
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To: That Subliminal Kid
You are getting closer to the correct spelling.
A hint:

There are 2 of each of these letters: e, m, r, s, a

and one of each of these: b, n, t

98 posted on 10/11/2002 1:30:29 PM PDT by Feiny
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To: RonDog
Attack, Attack, Attack! Go Simon Go!
99 posted on 10/11/2002 9:43:38 PM PDT by Libertina
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To: AnnaZ; Mercuria; feinswinesuksass; DoughtyOne; Cinnamon Girl; Tony in Hawaii; Bob J; diotima; ...
Attack, Attack, Attack! Go Simon Go!
Yes, ma'am!

From AP, via www.sfgate.com:

Simon seeks offensive with new ad as Davis seeks apology

ERICA WERNER, Associated Press Writer
Friday, October 11, 2002

(10-11) 18:41 PDT LOS ANGELES (AP) --

Republican Bill Simon stumped in Mexico and took on Gov. Gray Davis in a stinging new attack ad Friday as he sought to regain the offensive after an embarrassing retreat from a false allegation against the governor.

Davis continued to demand an apology from Simon for wrongly accusing him of illegally accepting a campaign check in the state Capitol four years ago.

"The least he could do is express an apology to me. You do not accuse a sitting governor of committing a crime unless you have all the facts," Davis said after addressing a health insurance conference in Los Angeles. He called the episode "unforgivable."

Simon aides said there would be no apology and insisted Davis was the one who should say he was sorry.

"Where's his apology for misrepresenting Bill Simon in every ad he's aired?" asked Simon press secretary Mark Miner.

Simon did apologize Friday to Al Angele, the former head of the California Organization of Police and Sheriffs shown in two 1998 photos giving Davis a check.

COPS and Simon claimed this week that the photos were taken in the state Capitol, only to acknowledge a day later that they were taken in Santa Monica. They said the mistake was a good-faith error.

Angele said Thursday he would reconsider a threat of legal action if he got a personal written apology. Simon satisfied the demand with a three-sentence faxed letter late Friday.

"I want to personally apologize to you for what happened," Simon wrote.

Meanwhile the Simon campaign released its first new attack ad since August. Davis has been blanketing the airwaves with positive and negative spots, but Simon's fund-raising disadvantage has allowed him to air ads only sporadically.

The campaign received a $400,000 infusion Thursday from the Republican National Committee -- part of a promised $1 million from national Republicans.

The new ad shows negative newspaper headlines and quotes about Davis in white lettering on a black background as foreboding music plays. "Had enough? Fire Gray Davis," it concludes...

Check out THIS website that Aunt Polgara found:

www.FIREdavis.com
       
 

Gray Davis has abused the trust of the people of California long enough. With his pay-to-play governance and 12-hour-a-day fundraising, he has diminished the respect of the Governor's Office and sold our state to the highest bidder.

We, the people of the State of California, refuse to take it any longer; we will fire Gray Davis on November 5th.

Thank you for joining us here at firedavis.com. Please look around, send a pink slip to Gray Davis, see what bad, bad things Davis has done, and see how France has superseded California under Gray Davis' leadership.

...to see what bad, bad things Davis has done... - CLICK HERE
LOL!

Click on that link for a VIDEO version of www.eGray.org - set to music!

We now have some GREAT sign ideas for the FReep:
FIRE GRAY DAVIS!
and
He did a bad, bad, thing.
I wonder if it's too late to trade in my DUMP truck for a FIRE truck for the Sacto FReep next Saturday:
"Dump DAVIS!"
Get the FACTS
about our "Pay for Play" governor at:
www.eGray.org


"We, the people of the State of California,
refuse to take it any longer;
we will fire Gray Davis on November 5th."

from
www.FIREdavis.com

The "DumpDAVIS"/"FIRE Gray DAVIS" FReep in SACRAMENTO will be:
Saturday (10/19) - 1 pm to 3 pm
- on the South Steps of the Capitol building in Sacramento

FReepers from all across California will gather on the Capitol Steps to "Dump DAVIS!"
Jim Robinson will be there.
Eric Hogue with Sacramento radio station KTKZ (1380-AM) will broadcast LIVE from the FReep!
theme: "Dump DAVIS"/"FIRE Gray Davis"
(Get your picture taken in front of a GIANT "dump truck"/or "FIRE truck?"...)
And, join us for a post-FReep PARTY at the Hyatt Regency:
Good food, GREAT fellowship, and daviddennis FReep videos on their BIG SCREEN TV!

100 posted on 10/12/2002 5:37:36 AM PDT by RonDog
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